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R.D. Mangles posted:have a strange feeling that guys like Tank Regent will be a lot more patient with jimbo fisher than sumlin Eh - Buzbee isn't really your traditional old racist Texan. He's a plaintiffs lawyer
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Crotch Bat posted:Dabo is way more proven than Kelly. If he pulls a CFP title out of his rear end this year he's going to leap frog Urbz and go right behind Saban for 2nd best coach in the country. Fair point, I completely forgot about Dabo.
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LeeMajors posted:Psh. Right, Meyer has a better history and Dabo, if he won this year, would have back-to-back titles and 3 straight title appearances at a school that wasn't a powerhouse for 30 years until he arrived. The fact that Clemson is #1 AGAIN, a fact seemingly lost on a large portion of all fans, is ridiculous because Clemson isn't remotely what they were last year or the year before. Again, I prefaced that with IF he wins the title and wouldn't put his history over Meyer's but I think like a power rankings deal you could easily make an argument for Dabo at #2.
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Crotch Bat posted:Right, Meyer has a better history and Dabo, if he won this year, would have back-to-back titles and 3 straight title appearances at a school that wasn't a powerhouse for 30 years until he arrived. Dude's had a good run to be sure--certainly the best since 93-97 Nebraska, Bama's otherworldliness excepted. Having said that, it's easy to forget that Clemsoning was a thing and he was almost fired until he took his hands off the offense. Selling him as #2, even with back to back titles, is a tough sell. Meyer will go down as a top 5 all timer as will Saban. Not sure Dabo's in the same category.
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pillsburysoldier posted:lmao Jimbo's TAMU contract is 100% guaranteed holy poo poo aggies you idiots Hahahahaha. Ok, between this and Tennessee’s coaching search I’m not going to feel bad about Ole Miss’s off-season anymore.
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I think Chip Kelly is a really good coach and was obviously the Home run hire of this coaching carousel, but putting him with Urban Meyer and Nick Saban is a bit presumptuous. He only coached 4 years at Oregon and they were super successful in those 4 years, but a lot of great coaches wear out their welcome and we don’t know how well he will progress. And even though I don’t really want to downplay his success in those 4 years, the PAC 10/12 wasn’t very good in his few years there. Both Washington teams sucked, OSU sucked, USC had Kiffin, his only competition was Stanford in those 4 years, the rest of the conference was straight up garbage. I don’t mean to disparage Chip Kelly or act like he’s a bad coach, he’s not. He’s very good. But I think he still has a lot to prove, especially compared to long established coaches like Urban, Dabo, and Saban.
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bill snyder is better than all coaches said
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Metapod posted:bill snyder is better than all coaches said Bill Snyder is cool and good.
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Not to mention, he had Winston for that run. Which I'm not sure how much stock you put into that but it's gotta mean something. So, to hand the guy $75 million fully guaranteed is pretty 
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Bill Synder is GOAT and Dabo is Mack Brown 2.0, hth.
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LeeMajors posted:Dude's had a good run to be sure--certainly the best since 93-97 Nebraska, Bama's otherworldliness excepted. Having said that, it's easy to forget that Clemsoning was a thing and he was almost fired until he took his hands off the offense. He's only 48, he'll coaching for some time, more than enough to continue building a resume. And coaches being lovely before getting good is practically the norm. Frank Beamer was 2-8-1 in 1992 and the BOV told him to fire 8 of his 9 assistants (forever RB coach Billy Hite pre-dated Beamer at VT, I'm guessing that's how he survived that purge) in year 6 or resign. The rest is obviously history. Sometimes coaches just figure things out on the way. Anyway, you're debating all-time and I'm debating a power ranking.
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Alright, well thanks for the natty Jimbo, please take your garbage o-line coach with you on the way out. Just get a fun offensive coach. Don't care if we're great, just want to watch fireworks.
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Crotch Bat posted:Anyway, you're debating all-time and I'm debating a power ranking. Maybe. I won't debate that Dabo has proven me wrong, I'm just not sure he should be invited into the pantheon just yet. Also, Urban wasn't lovely before he was good so  Now you've made me vociferously defend the coach who faked a heart attack and invoked his children to avoid his buyout, so thanks a fuckin' lot.
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OK for the sake of argument, what active coaches are in the top tier and how would you rank them? I can't even give an informed opinion because I haven't much cared about football since Pelini's waning days. I mean obviously Saban and Meyer, and probably Jimbo and Dabo, but I don't know who else would go in that top tier. I feel like Peterson, Patterson, Richt are all in the next tier down.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Alright, well thanks for the natty Jimbo, please take your garbage o-line coach with you on the way out. Christobal?
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regulargonzalez posted:OK for the sake of argument, what active coaches are in the top tier and how would you rank them? I can't even give an informed opinion because I haven't much cared about football since Pelini's waning days. Tier I: Saban/Meyer Tier Ia: Dabo, Jimbo (ugh, rube-name-city) Tier II: Patterson, Harbaugh, Richt, Malzahn, Kelly (sans absence he's Ia), Shaw, Petersen, Gundy Everything beyond that is a muddled mess of nouveau riche success like Smart, minor journeymen success stories like Muschamp, outcasts like Leach, or mid-major giants like Niumatalolo.
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pillsburysoldier posted:Christobal? He's oc at Oregon unless there are two Christobal's in CFB.
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LeeMajors posted:Maybe. I won't debate that Dabo has proven me wrong, I'm just not sure he should be invited into the pantheon just yet. Mine is essentially "this current run is really good, if he wins back-to-back titles with one coming after losing Deshaun Watson he's as good or better than everyone not named Nick Saban". I could easily hear an argument for Meyer being better, I'm just saying I think if Dabo wins this year you can make the same for him in the current coaching landscape.
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Jimbo's national title team has something like a dozen players starting in the NFL right now. That team was insane.
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wandler20 posted:Jimbo's national title team has something like a dozen players starting in the NFL right now. That team was insane. They are a historically good team in CFB, unironically top 5
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pillsburysoldier posted:Dabo crushes Urban when they're playing against each other though has this happen more than once
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LeeMajors posted:Owns. The 80s had the best logos. I always thought that was better than the current logo
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Twitter (mostly former players) are sharing tue unheard quotes from the former Vol coaches. A few gems - https://twitter.com/davy___crockett/status/936744895720644609 https://twitter.com/jpropst47/status/936741154669973504 https://twitter.com/jpropst47/status/936745424551137280 https://twitter.com/doctorcarter3/status/936753289357594626 https://twitter.com/doctorcarter3/status/936758816372350976
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Stunt Rock posted:The best part about this is the carousel won’t stop turning for a while so who knows what other insane poo poo is going to happen. Tennessee still doesn’t have a coach lol
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LeeMajors posted:Owns. The 80s had the best logos. loving love this logo. [quote="“Stunt Rock”" post="“478934481”"] The best part about this is the carousel won’t stop turning for a while so who knows what other insane poo poo is going to happen. [/quote] It’s amazing. There are still people on the Missouri boards sharing “inside info” from state coaches meetings that for example Malzahn is going to Arkansas in the off-season. It’s not even the veracity, just that everyone is sharing stuff.
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so tennessee has officially suspended Currie with pay, likely because they want to find exact cause to fire him and gently caress him out of his buyout
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DJExile posted:so tennessee has officially suspended Currie with pay, likely because they want to find exact cause to fire him and gently caress him out of his buyout Good
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DoctorCarter3/status/936794015730511873 “Where are my war daddies?”
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I will never stop laughing when I see the names jimbo and dabo next to each other
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nachos posted:I will never stop laughing when I see the names jimbo and dabo next to each other very college football IMO
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nachos posted:I will never stop laughing when I see the names jimbo and dabo next to each other One unfortunate thing we're missing out on because Tennessee is a mess is SEC coach Jim Bob Cooter.
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LeeMajors posted:Tier I: Saban/Meyer Harbaugh in this list is debatable. Dantonio is a better coach
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Komet posted:Harbaugh in this list is debatable. Dantonio is a better coach That’s what I was going to say. Dantonio’s resume is superior to Harbaugh’s and Shaw’s.
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Cnidario posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/DoctorCarter3/status/936794015730511873 Cmon Butch, it’s War BOYS. 
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I dunno, I kind of like the idea of a fully guaranteed paycheck, but there is obviously a whole ton of risk. It lets the coach have a couple of bumps in the road before getting their recruits in without the feeling of the guillotine over their necks. 10 years and $75 million is straight stupid though.
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Komet posted:Harbaugh in this list is debatable. Dantonio is a better coach Agreed. Dantonio slipped my mind. 4 Jai Alais sabotaging me. Franklin prob deserves to be in there somewhere. And Ferentz. Ferentz might be tier 2, even if he’s never going anywhere. Same for Snyder.
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