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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Missionary Positron posted:

How is it even legal to do this kind of poo poo :wtc:

its really breathtaking and supremely hosed up at the same time.

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I checked, and it was the house bill that turbo fucks universities and people with student loans. But those people tend to vote against Republicans anyway so expect it to be in the final draft.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Something interesting about this tax cut nonsense is that something very, very close to this would've still been done with a President Rubio. The whole thing has very, very little to do with Trump, since he doesn't know anything, and almost everything to do with Republicans just being regular shitbags.

It's refreshing!

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Well, refreshing in that he's so astoundingly incompetent that all he does is say the quiet part loud all day every day. It's the same poo poo as it would have been but the monkey's paw wish means the 'I'm not racist you're the REAL racist' mask has been ripped off. Just turns out a third of the country likes what they see and want more.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.



Whelp, just dropped some cash to get those fucks out of Congress.

Heard from a former GOP House staffer friend earlier in the week that the general attitude on the Hill is "we shut down the government and got reelected for it, noone's going to care, Dems never turn out in midterms in my district/state anyways." Even he thought it was insane to ram such a garbage bill through while totally forgetting how they took back control of Congress on the back of an unpopular bill just 7 loving years ago.

Going to interesting to see what the blowback on Collins is going to be, she's been riding on her 'principled moderate' horse for a while but voting for this is going to erase all the goodwill she had with the left.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Here's a novel idea: instead of worrying so much about which demographics we specifically want to gently caress over or give a break to, how about we reduce spending? We could slash a lot of budgets if we gave them any real scrutiny with that "fraud, waste, and abuse" thing.

CRAZY IDEA, I KNOW RITE

Missionary Positron
Jul 6, 2004
And now for something completely different
Donald Tusk: EU will back Ireland’s Brexit progress decision

quote:

In a bluntly worded warning to London and a show of unity with Dublin, European Council President Donald Tusk said Friday that Ireland would have an absolute veto over the declaration of “sufficient progress” in the Brexit negotiations.

Speaking with Tusk after a joint meeting in Dublin on the state of play in the talks, Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar said that Ireland and the EU were prepared to “stand firm” and refuse to advance the talks “if the U.K. offer falls short” on any one of the three main divorce issues.

After an hour-long discussion, Tusk and Varadkar expressed guarded optimism that a deal with the U.K. could be reached in time for EU27 leaders to make a declaration of “sufficient progress” at a European Council summit in Brussels later this month. But they also made clear that the pieces of a deal were not yet fully in place.

Tusk has set an “absolute deadline” of Monday for the U.K. to come back with a revised offer on the divorce terms, particularly on the financial settlement, on which there had been little progress before the October European Council summit, and on issues related to the Northern Irish border.

U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May is expected to present the revised package during a lunch in Brussels Monday with Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker.

In Dublin, Tusk sent a firm message that first and foremost it would be for the Irish government to decide if there has been sufficient progress on Ireland border issues, including provision to protect the Good Friday peace agreement.

“I will consult the Taoiseach [prime minister] if the U.K. offer is sufficient for the Irish government,” Tusk said. “Let me say very clearly: If the U.K. offer is unacceptable for Ireland, it will also be unacceptable for the EU.”

He added, “I realize that for some British politicians this may be hard to understand. But such is the logic behind the fact that Ireland is the EU member while the U.K. is leaving.”
...
'Vardkar, in his remarks, also included a not-so-subtle slap at the U.K., by thanking the rest of the EU countries for their strong support of Ireland.

“We appreciate the solidarity of all of our EU partners from the EU institutions and also the other member states who have taken Ireland’s unique concerns to heart, and Irish concerns are very much Europe’s concerns,” he said. “It’s an important and impressive display of European unity and solidarity. The European Union is a family and families stick together.”


Brexit continues on being the greatest tragicomedy in recent European history.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Naked Bear posted:

Here's a novel idea: instead of worrying so much about which demographics we specifically want to gently caress over or give a break to, how about we reduce spending? We could slash a lot of budgets if we gave them any real scrutiny with that "fraud, waste, and abuse" thing.

CRAZY IDEA, I KNOW RITE

but we have always been at war with Eurasia

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Terrifying Effigies posted:



Whelp, just dropped some cash to get those fucks out of Congress.

Heard from a former GOP House staffer friend earlier in the week that the general attitude on the Hill is "we shut down the government and got reelected for it, noone's going to care, Dems never turn out in midterms in my district/state anyways." Even he thought it was insane to ram such a garbage bill through while totally forgetting how they took back control of Congress on the back of an unpopular bill just 7 loving years ago.

Going to interesting to see what the blowback on Collins is going to be, she's been riding on her 'principled moderate' horse for a while but voting for this is going to erase all the goodwill she had with the left.

Naw they’re acting like people who know they’ll never have to face another fair election. Gerrymandering and suppression about to be ramped up into overdrive.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Missionary Positron posted:

Donald Tusk: EU will back Ireland’s Brexit progress decision


Brexit continues on being the greatest tragicomedy in recent European history.

What a goddamn mess this is. The US and UK are having a car-door-dick-slamming contest. UK is currently slamming their collective dicks in the door of a Volvo lorry, whereas the US is doing it in the door of a Bentley.

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007

Missionary Positron posted:

How is it even legal to do this kind of poo poo :wtc:

Because it's not true. There is no life begins at conception amendment, and the alaska thing has been on the table for years, it just took enough retards to pass it

Poppyseed Poundcake fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Dec 2, 2017

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
Life begins at arousal

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
speaking of arousal

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/936933373142061056

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Woof Blitzer posted:

Life begins at arousal

Life begins at the first rear end-groping.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band
https://twitter.com/TPM/status/936958425254293504

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

I'm going to run in 2020 on a platform of domestic drone strikes on legislature members.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Jeff Flake #2 retard

psydude
Apr 1, 2008


Dumb move by the White House. The final bill still has to pass the Senate again after it's been reconciled.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Naw they’re acting like people who know they’ll never have to face another fair election. Gerrymandering and suppression about to be ramped up into overdrive.

This is why taking back governorships and state legislatures is so important. They're actually the ones that draw the congressional districts. It's one of the reason why it was so crucial that Democrats won the governorship and AG's office in VA.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

psydude posted:

Dumb move by the White House. The final bill still has to pass the Senate again after it's been reconciled.

Or the House could just pass it as-is.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Zeroisanumber posted:

Or the House could just pass it as-is.

This is what they'll do

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Trump could always veto it

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Trump could always veto it

That's actually something Trump would do.

"I know, I'll veto the bill! They'll NEVER see it coming!"

BigDave fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Dec 2, 2017

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

psydude posted:

This is why taking back governorships and state legislatures is so important. They're actually the ones that draw the congressional districts. It's one of the reason why it was so crucial that Democrats won the governorship and AG's office in VA.

Exactly. Give to/volunteer at local level rather than National, it'll still help the up ticket races while impacting the ground level offices that actually matter.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

psydude posted:

If/when Democrats retake Congress and the presidency in 2018/2020 I really hope they keep the current middle class tax cuts and then raise the poo poo out of taxes on the rich.

:lol:

First off, they might take the House. They'll gently caress up every other election.

Second, the "middle class tax cuts" are actually tax hikes hidden behind a doubled standard deduction (from ~6k to 12k). Which works out to less than that, because it removes the personal deduction (~4k) you used to claim alongside that standard deduction. So yeah they doubled it. And cut the second part, so the normal claim for a single person just went from 10k to 12k. And if you itemized your deductions, to claim things like mortgage interest, student loan interest, state/local taxes, etc, you're hosed. You used to get the 4k personal deduction even if you itemized. So there go the single largest items you got to claim, and that deduction.

Pervis
Jan 12, 2001

YOSPOS

Godholio posted:

:lol:

First off, they might take the House. They'll gently caress up every other election.

Second, the "middle class tax cuts" are actually tax hikes hidden behind a doubled standard deduction (from ~6k to 12k). Which works out to less than that, because it removes the personal deduction (~4k) you used to claim alongside that standard deduction. So yeah they doubled it. And cut the second part, so the normal claim for a single person just went from 10k to 12k. And if you itemized your deductions, to claim things like mortgage interest, student loan interest, state/local taxes, etc, you're hosed. You used to get the 4k personal deduction even if you itemized. So there go the single largest items you got to claim, and that deduction.

The best part is much like the bush tax cuts when this thing expires after 10 years what's permanent is tax hikes on almost everyone and tax cuts on the ultra rich and corporations. They'll bitch again about Democrats letting taxes rise but this time they made the worst parts permanent so it requires actual action to get rid of the effects (rather than just letting it expire like parts of the bush tax cuts).

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Naked Bear posted:

Here's a novel idea: instead of worrying so much about which demographics we specifically want to gently caress over or give a break to, how about we reduce spending? We could slash a lot of budgets if we gave them any real scrutiny with that "fraud, waste, and abuse" thing.

CRAZY IDEA, I KNOW RITE
You won't get far cutting only "waste, fraud, and abuse" unless you define "waste" as "supporting things I don't like".

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

Naked Bear posted:

Here's a novel idea: instead of worrying so much about which demographics we specifically want to gently caress over or give a break to, how about we reduce spending? We could slash a lot of budgets if we gave them any real scrutiny with that "fraud, waste, and abuse" thing.

CRAZY IDEA, I KNOW RITE

DOD aside, not really. Pretty much every federal agency has faced mounting budget cuts for the last 7 or so years, many of them are cut to the bone and haven't been adequately hiring for years. The IRS for example has had its budget cut way past the point of being able to reasonably enforce tax law, for a while now the IRS budget cuts have been costing us money in the name of fiscal responsibility.

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrJAaUU1r8

kupachek
Aug 5, 2015

This man’s brain is trembling in the balance between reason and insanity, and as he stalks on with clenched fist and sword in hand, as though he still saw those murderous Russians gunners.

BigDave posted:

That's actually something Trump would do.

"I know, I'll veto the bill! They'll NEVER see it coming!"

Tell him Obama endorses the bill, let his spite guide him into using the veto.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Naked Bear posted:

Here's a novel idea: instead of worrying so much about which demographics we specifically want to gently caress over or give a break to, how about we reduce spending? We could slash a lot of budgets if we gave them any real scrutiny with that "fraud, waste, and abuse" thing.

CRAZY IDEA, I KNOW RITE

lol

Dum Cumpster
Sep 12, 2003

*pozes your neghole*
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/937009631662104578

Mueller's all "I've been working on this case for a year and he just...tweeted it out"

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
JFC

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Dum Cumpster posted:

https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/937009631662104578

Mueller's all "I've been working on this case for a year and he just...tweeted it out"

No loving way, that guy is reading too much into it... right?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

FrozenVent posted:

No loving way, that guy is reading too much into it... right?

Technically he is not wrong. But to take any action against a president for a crime is effectively a political question for Congress, so yeah....

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Technically he is not wrong. But to take any action against a president for a crime is effectively a political question for Congress, so yeah....

Status quo, nothin' matters.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
edit: opps nvm

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Darkest timeline nothing matters

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Dum Cumpster posted:

https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/937009631662104578

Mueller's all "I've been working on this case for a year and he just...tweeted it out"

Muller: "No way Trump will confess"
Trump: "Hold my cup of piss"

FrozenVent posted:

No loving way, that guy is reading too much into it... right?

Maybe. I doubt the House is willing to impeach Trump anytime soon, and this is 2017 where nothing matters.

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BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



Whelp start writing your reps saying you would support them introducing articles of impeachment citing that tweet.

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