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BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles


just got better. there's another bug I've been seeing for years where it detects the things in its own quarantine and loops on that so now the sig update loop is feeding the quarantine loop and it stopped responding to pings

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

the sig update loop is feeding the quarantine loop and it stopped responding to pings

perfect security

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



BangersInMyKnickers posted:

just got better. there's another bug I've been seeing for years where it detects the things in its own quarantine and loops on that so now the sig update loop is feeding the quarantine loop and it stopped responding to pings
working as intended?

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

https://www.wired.com/story/macos-update-undoes-apple-root-bug-patch/

quote:

But now, multiple Mac users have confirmed to WIRED that Apple's fix for that problem has a serious glitch of its own. Those who had not yet upgraded their operating system from the original version of High Sierra, 10.13.0, to the most recent version, 10.13.1, but had downloaded the patch, say the "root" bug reappears when they install the most recent macOS system update. And worse, two of those Mac users say they've also tried re-installing Apple's security patch after that upgrade, only to find that the "root" problem still persists until they reboot their computer, with no warning that a reboot is necessary.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus



The ghost of stebe is angry.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Chris Knight posted:

yeah it's good

transmission-qt also very good

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



This is an automatically generated email, please do not reply.

Dear customer,

As you are surely aware, the browser makers distrusted StartCom around a year ago and therefore all the end entity certificates newly issued by StartCom are not trusted by default in browsers.

The browsers imposed some conditions in order for the certificates to be re-accepted. While StartCom believes that these conditions have been met, it appears there are still certain difficulties forthcoming. Considering this situation, the owners of StartCom have decided to terminate the company as a Certification Authority as mentioned in Startcom´s website.

StartCom will stop issuing new certificates starting from January 1st, 2018 and will provide only CRL and OCSP services for two more years.

StartCom would like to thank you for your support during this difficult time.

StartCom is contacting some other CAs to provide you with the certificates needed. In case you don´t want us to provide you an alternative, please, contact us at certmaster@startcomca.com

Please let us know if you need any further assistance with the transition process. We deeply apologize for any inconveniences that this may cause.

Best regards,

StartCom Certification Authority

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

Dear customer,

As you are surely aware, the browser makers distrusted StartCom around a year ago and therefore all the end entity certificates newly issued by StartCom are not trusted by default in browsers.

[...]

Best regards,

StartCom Certification Authority

And so dies approximately the only website on the public internet to use client certificates for authentication. Though I think I saw chromium propose removing support for them to reduce attack surface and a bunch of government people freaking out in response a couple years back.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Yeah I've worked at a number of places that used them for internal sites.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
wait client cert auth is bad? i only used it to authenticate clients with servers that i control (a toy project)

what's so bad about client cert auth?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
for web services and the like its very good. for browser based auth it could lead to a user exposing information about themselves if they don't understand it. ex: user visits site, site has ad, ad server asks for client cert auth, user gets client cert prompt, user picks a cert w/ their name on it, now the ad server knows who the user is.

The solution is to do like IE has been doing forever w/ windows auth and specify domains/urls where its allowed and deny its use elsewhere.

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

what's so bad about client cert auth?
Client certs are just fancy auth tokens wrapped up in a file, but their user-friendliness has the downside that they're more easily stolen.

Eons ago my company used client certs to auth 3rd party companies into our extranet. But since each company often needed to grant multiple people access, they just copied the client cert file around internally like you might share your Netflix password with your close friends. Or they stored the cert files in a location easily accessed by thieves.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010
https://blog.chromium.org/2017/11/reducing-chrome-crashes-caused-by-third.html

this is probably worth noting on the browser vs. antivirus front

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Diva Cupcake posted:

most the linknyc kiosks i walk past in midtown are just used by homeless people to play music. which is cool.

They used to have web browsers, but they had to disable that. Homeless people kept watching porn on them and merchants nearby complained to the city about it until they switched the web browser off.

The WiFi is crazy fast though. I've gotten like 150-220 mbps down, and 100+ mbps up from those things. Too bad you gotta basically be standing out on the street to use them though.

EssOEss
Oct 23, 2006
128-bit approved

minato posted:

Client certs are just fancy auth tokens wrapped up in a file, but their user-friendliness has the downside that they're more easily stolen.

Not if the key store backing the certificate is a physical module on a smart card. Client certificates are how smart cards are used for website authentication by governments - that is why they freaked out.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

minato posted:

Client certs [...] user-friendliness

hmm

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



just another day in the uk partliament:

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/937019367572803590

at least they're just using delegated access with audit trails:

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/937034384976302080

oh:

https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/937043585454796801

AggressivelyStupid
Jan 9, 2012

:psyboom:

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe
non repudiation what’s that?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

see, they need a block chain

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


But her emails!

E: sadly despite being a tory dorris is pro hillary so no good emails! tweets to quote

distortion park fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Dec 3, 2017

vOv
Feb 8, 2014


the ratio on that first tweet lmao

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006
https://twitter.com/JamesClayton5/status/937395948535320576

Don't worry guys, everyone shares their password with their staff so it's totally fine and not newsworthy right?

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe

green pos

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
lmao

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

breaking news: politicians are as bad with security as their electorate

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
fun fact: canadian mp's offices are assigned a /29* on the house of commons network. by design every computer, printer, or device in the office is meant to be directly on the hoc network

unsurprisingly, this does not really work


*theoretically you can get a larger netblock if you can justify it, however they only seem to want to assign them at the beginning of a term

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?
Why doesn’t it work? Just because that’s not enough address space? Or am I missing something?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
8 statically assigned addresses for a modern office in an era where everyone expects wifi, mobile device access, etc.

adding a nat device is unsupported and afaik not allowed, and in practice is like the first thing that happens

e: to clarify, i'm talking about their constituent offices located in their ridings

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Dec 4, 2017

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




cjs: senior management is really upset that their "genius" concept of account access recovery mechanism is being thrashed to poo poo :suicide:

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

love to admit to crimes on twitter

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


you all know that even if nadine dorries doesnt share her password everyone knows its dorries123

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/nsa-nghia-pho-classified-information-stolen-guilty.html

cant copy the text from firefox for some reason, cba to see what'st the fault. basically, ancient nsa superhacker greybeard took confidential info home, got it stolen from home pc by kaspersky antivirus - or so the case alleges

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

cinci zoo sniper posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/nsa-nghia-pho-classified-information-stolen-guilty.html

cant copy the text from firefox for some reason, cba to see what'st the fault. basically, ancient nsa superhacker greybeard took confidential info home, got it stolen from home pc by kaspersky antivirus - or so the case alleges

here:

quote:

BALTIMORE — A former National Security Agency employee admitted on Friday that he had illegally taken from the agency classified documents believed to have subsequently been stolen from his home computer by hackers working for Russian intelligence.

Nghia H. Pho, 67, of Ellicott City, Md., pleaded guilty to one count of willful retention of national defense information, an offense that carries a possible 10-year sentence. Prosecutors agreed not to seek more than eight years, however, and Mr. Pho’s attorney, Robert C. Bonsib, will be free to ask for a more lenient sentence. He remains free while awaiting sentencing on April 6.

Mr. Pho had been charged in secret, though some news reports had given a limited description of the case. Officials unsealed the charges on Friday, resolving the long-running mystery of the defendant’s identity.

Mr. Pho, who worked as a software developer for the N.S.A., was born in Vietnam but is a naturalized United States citizen. Prosecutors withheld from the public many details of his government work and of the criminal case against him, which is linked to a continuing investigation of Russian hacking.

But in court documents, prosecutors did disclose that he worked from 2006 to 2016 for the N.S.A.’s “Tailored Access Operations.” The unit, whose name has now been changed to Computer Network Operations, is the N.S.A.’s fastest-growing component. Its hackers break into foreign computer networks to gather intelligence, often leaving behind software implants that continue to collect documents and other data and forward it to the agency for months or years.

Prosecutors said that from 2010 until March 2015, Mr. Pho began removing classified documents and writings. He kept those materials, some in digital form, at his home in Maryland, according to prosecutors.

It appears he was charged in March 2015.

Mr. Pho is one of three N.S.A. workers to be charged in the past two years with mishandling classified information, a dismal record for an agency that is responsible for some of the government’s most carefully guarded secrets.

The leaks have come to light as investigators scramble to trace the source of an even worse breach of N.S.A. security: the public release of the agency’s hacking tools by a still-unidentified group calling itself the Shadow Brokers. Some of those tools have been subsequently used for “ransomware” attacks that shut down or disrupted businesses, hospitals, railways and other enterprises around the world this year.

Government officials, who would speak of the classified details of the case only on condition of anonymity, said that Mr. Pho took the classified documents home to help him rewrite his resume. But he had installed on his home computer antivirus software made by Kaspersky Lab, a top Russian software company, and Russian hackers are believed to have exploited the software to steal the documents, the officials said.

bolded my favorite part :allears:

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

infernal machines posted:

8 statically assigned addresses for a modern office in an era where everyone expects wifi, mobile device access, etc.

adding a nat device is unsupported and afaik not allowed, and in practice is like the first thing that happens

e: to clarify, i'm talking about their constituent offices located in their ridings

just use ipv6 I'm sure their infrastructure is ready for it

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

just use ipv6 I'm sure their infrastructure is ready for it

:psypop:

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

infernal machines posted:

8 statically assigned addresses for a modern office in an era where everyone expects wifi, mobile device access, etc.
So straight up not enough address space. But really, now, how many people are going to be in their office at the House of Co-

infernal machines posted:


e: to clarify, i'm talking about their constituent offices located in their ridings
:psyduck:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

infernal machines posted:

8 statically assigned addresses for a modern office in an era where everyone expects wifi, mobile device access, etc.

in the 90s I worked with the team that set up the HoC network bridging, and it apparently hasn't advanced at all since then

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

https://twitter.com/msvisio/status/936005217346359296

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spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Lmao

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