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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Come to the Kengan Ashura thread y'all

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Jedah
Sep 1, 2001

YOU CAN NOT BUST THE KRUST

frajaq posted:

What other fights were the high points of the series, its been such a long time since I read Ippo...

Date vs. Martinez

Kamogawa vs. Anderson

Kimura vs. Mashiba

Takamura vs. David Eagle

Ippo vs. Karasawa

Volg Zangief vs. Mike Elliot

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Aoki vs that Pineapple Guy 1.

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009

Vagabundo posted:

Aoki vs that Pineapple Guy 1.

Was that the one with the big fakeout head-turn?

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Bushmaori posted:

Was that the one with the big fakeout head-turn?

answer: is aoki in it?

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

Plutonis posted:

Come to the Kengan Ashura thread y'all

*sigh* fine.

~several hours later~

Yeah, its good.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
it feels too much like an off brand baki

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Part of me wants to think that a big loss after an intense build-up was a gutsy way to end the series.

The other part of me thinks that it was a terrible waste to throw all that momentum away just because you're done.

Both parts think it's a lovely thing to do to Ippo.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

Peel posted:

It's a decently executed piece of drama on the single-fight level, it just clashes badly with the manga as a whole. That's if it's actually the end, but it not being the end would itself be tricky to work at this point.

Woli was the worst individual fight, but the manga was structurally in a trough between Ippo taking the national title and the Gonzalez fight, which is most of it and more than an IRL decade. Some good individual parts in that can't salvage so much wasted time.

this is written better and more succinctly than i couldve but its basically exactly how i feel

there's a reason why Brain Damage Ending The Career worked in AnJ and not HnI

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
ippo will still fight with cte dont you worry all you stockholm syndrome guys

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
If the author is sick or something and just wants to end the series on his his own terms I can't fault him too much.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I went back and read Takamura vs Hawk.



So good. What happened?

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Wild Horses posted:

ippo will still fight with cte dont you worry all you stockholm syndrome guys

Ippo will change his name to Daniel Bryan and it'll all be good again.

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.

Shinjobi posted:

I went back and read Takamura vs Hawk.



So good. What happened?

ippo is really good right now dont know what to tell you.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


poo poo I think I found out the start of the downfall

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

frajaq posted:

poo poo I think I found out the start of the downfall



ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

frajaq posted:

poo poo I think I found out the start of the downfall



Has this loving dude ever thrown in the goddamn towel in his coaching career?

Drink Top
Jul 21, 2012
I could believe that Kamogawa has terrible arthritis and is too prideful to admit that he can no longer throw.

LordNagash
Dec 29, 2012

ElGroucho posted:

Has this loving dude ever thrown in the goddamn towel in his coaching career?

Wasn't there one match where he threw it and someone else (Shimoda?) caught it before it landed in the ring? That's the only time I can think of.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Is there actual word the series is ending or is everyone just jumping to that conclusion because Ippo lost?

I ask because it certainly doesn't seem like the kinda thing this author would do unless there was some outside prompting like health, falling numbers, a traumatic life event, etc.

It would be kinda cool if the weekly format was just too much at this point and it shifted to a monthly more serious end game focused story with this as the pivot point, but I'm sure that kind of format change would have been announced.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


just finished the Ippo vs Date fight and coach throws the towel

not that it mattered because ippo is downed hard anyway

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

DamnGlitch posted:

Is there actual word the series is ending or is everyone just jumping to that conclusion because Ippo lost?

I ask because it certainly doesn't seem like the kinda thing this author would do unless there was some outside prompting like health, falling numbers, a traumatic life event, etc.

It would be kinda cool if the weekly format was just too much at this point and it shifted to a monthly more serious end game focused story with this as the pivot point, but I'm sure that kind of format change would have been announced.

Official word is that it will be continuing on, but there's no telling what direction it'll go in. At least, that's what the twitter account for the editor assigned to HnI has stated.

https://twitter.com/hajimenoippo100/status/933272632979480576

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

frajaq posted:

just finished the Ippo vs Date fight and coach throws the towel

not that it mattered because ippo is downed hard anyway

He threw the towel to mark Ippo's passing, a true samurai to the end.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Vagabundo posted:

Official word is that it will be continuing on, but there's no telling what direction it'll go in. At least, that's what the twitter account for the editor assigned to HnI has stated.

https://twitter.com/hajimenoippo100/status/933272632979480576

https://twitter.com/miyaderatatsuya/status/933296452582772736

Looks like we're not the only ones that feel like this is the end of HnI.

edit: Ugh, Chrome breaks trying to translate that inline.

"No, please stop. This has just become painful for the readers (especially from the old days). Please do not torture the reader by using past heritage as a shield"

Drink Top
Jul 21, 2012
It turns out Ippo's "first step" will be learning how to walk again after severe brain damage.

Drink Top fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Dec 6, 2017

Fantastic Flyer
Aug 9, 2017
"Nothing in the rulebook says a fighter can't be in a wheelchair!"

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

"Yes it bloody well does!"

e: I'm assuming the ref for that fight is English, I guess?

Flubby
Feb 28, 2006
Fun Shoe
I'm unfamiliar with the actual sport of boxing. Is someone with that kind of damage even allowed back in the ring at any point? Ippo has it pretty bad. Hand tremors. Missing time. Loss of balance. Is there any kind of brain damage to that degree that isn't permanent? Besides the fact that he said he'd retire if he ever lost again, is there any chance he could come back in 5 years, cross Takamura's monster line, figure out what that tree is trying to tell him about being strong, lose his virginity, and sign up with another gym? I'd like maybe some kind of true story of any boxer that's gone through this so I have some idea of what the author can even do at this point.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Muhammad Ali comes to mind, dude kept going even though he shouldn't in his later years. I'm just referencing off Wiki but one fight he had to go through a complete physical because he was starting to develop vocal stutters and trembling hands. He went to some clinic that cleared him he was good to go, and he got completed dominated in his return, and lost because they had to call the match quits.

So yeah not sure where the author wants to go with this.

Shindragon fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 6, 2017

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

The next step will be Ippo directly training his brain. Coach will tell him to pound a log into a hill using his head, in order to exercise his brain and make it adapt to that level of punishment.

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Flubby posted:

I'm unfamiliar with the actual sport of boxing. Is someone with that kind of damage even allowed back in the ring at any point? Ippo has it pretty bad. Hand tremors. Missing time. Loss of balance. Is there any kind of brain damage to that degree that isn't permanent? Besides the fact that he said he'd retire if he ever lost again, is there any chance he could come back in 5 years, cross Takamura's monster line, figure out what that tree is trying to tell him about being strong, lose his virginity, and sign up with another gym? I'd like maybe some kind of true story of any boxer that's gone through this so I have some idea of what the author can even do at this point.

Nope, maybe if this was back in the 80's before MRI's and poo poo, but now it would be impossible for Ippo to get a clean bill of health.

Also no on him taking a 5 year break and come back stronger. That was one of the reasons of why Date wanted to fight Martinez as soon as possible after his comeback: he knew he was getting too old, even though he was just thirty years old. I think Ippo is 23-24 in the manga, so he also would be pushing it if he did this.

It would be hilarious if it turns out that Ippo's problems are smaller than everybody thinks, and it only takes a short rehabilitation period to fix, but they got this bad only because he feared going to a specialist doctor.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
1204 RAW here: http://netabare.city/archives/9535

rough translation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hajimenoippo/comments/7hpwu2/spoiler_chapter_1204_fullraw/dqt823s/

Takamura is not happy...

Drink Top
Jul 21, 2012

Kal-L posted:

Nope, maybe if this was back in the 80's before MRI's and poo poo, but now it would be impossible for Ippo to get a clean bill of health.

Also no on him taking a 5 year break and come back stronger. That was one of the reasons of why Date wanted to fight Martinez as soon as possible after his comeback: he knew he was getting too old, even though he was just thirty years old. I think Ippo is 23-24 in the manga, so he also would be pushing it if he did this.

It would be hilarious if it turns out that Ippo's problems are smaller than everybody thinks, and it only takes a short rehabilitation period to fix, but they got this bad only because he feared going to a specialist doctor.

Isn't HnI supposed to be in the 80's? I'm not sure what period the manga is set in anymore.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Drink Top posted:

Isn't HnI supposed to be in the 80's? I'm not sure what period the manga is set in anymore.

The current year in HnI is 1999.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Drink Top posted:

Isn't HnI supposed to be in the 80's? I'm not sure what period the manga is set in anymore.

I think it's like Initial D? Where the time scale is somewhat fluid.

edit: Doh, new page.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Good. Angry Takamura is best Takamura. Did they mention who the opponent was anywhere in the build up to this fight? They don’t name him here.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Nilbop posted:

Good. Angry Takamura is best Takamura. Did they mention who the opponent was anywhere in the build up to this fight? They don’t name him here.

Keith Lycaon. Not sure if this is a pun on a name like Rickey Mouse or Ronald Duck are, so MAYBE this will be a legit fight?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it's even odds on him being a normal boxer and someone who walks on his hands and boxes with his feet

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
So what are the odds of a Aoki and Kimura title win considering they were waaaay closer to retirement than Ippo

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Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Never because they will always be the butt of the comics much as I love them.

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