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One_Wing posted:I’m surprised tournaments aren’t trying more things to balance things like that up. Handing extra CP to non codex armies would seem like a really obvious thing to at least trial. Adepticons team tournament is giving objective secured to index armies, which is something at least.
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Corrode posted:Nah this is dumb. 'You don't get to play until your dex is released' is a bad way to approach things and is why GW have tried to close the gap with the Chapter Approved bits and pieces. It's obvious that index armies will be at a disadvantage because they have fewer options, but they should be (and are) trying to at least keep them viable. It's unreasonable for people to expect their index armies to be as good as codex armies, specifically because codex armies have stratagems. I didn't say "you don't get to play." You just don't have to play in the super-competitive tournament scene. You know you're hamstringed going into it - people acting surprised or getting angry about it is absurd. CA helps to stem the tide a bit before every army has a codex, but i'm betting this is going to lead to even further complaints because they don't go far enough. People can play in either friendlies, narrative or non-tournament matched games before then. The goal is for everything to be balanced once everything is on the same playing field. Expecting it to be totally balanced before getting there is silly.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Wouldn't really help because lack of strategems to use that CP is one of the obvious issues. Yeah, appreciate it’s not great, but more re-rolls are always good. Chapter Approved gives all BF armies ObSec anyway.
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Broken Record Talk posted:More than heavily implied; it's flat out confirmed. One if the core threads in Fear to Tread is the Legion's struggle with the Red Thirst. Thanks for confirming, I hadn't read that book, so I didn't want to say 100% that it is covered in the HH. In other words: the Thirst is a feature, not a bug. The Rage, is a bug though. Liquid Communism posted:Probably won't be an issue any time soon, anyway. IIRC for most of them, becoming Wulfen isn't something that happens until late in their careers anyway, as the Canis Helix changes are progressive. It has been 100 years or so by now, might start showing up a bit, but probably not a *serious* issue until much later, yeah.
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My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in!
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BJPaskoff posted:My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in! Welcome!
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One_Wing posted:My awesome wife has been painting up my kits of the same stuff. Primed and then painted with dirt cheap acrylic from hobbycraft: poo poo, I have a hard enough time getting my wife to paint her models, let alone shared scenery. What's the secret? BJPaskoff posted:My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in! Yeeeessss, eat the bipeds 
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BJPaskoff posted:My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in! One of us, one of us...
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One_Wing posted:Painting advice thread - I use “the fang” as a colour on the more recessed parts of the armour for my guardians etc., and have acquired a can of it in spray form to help speed up painting. Should I be priming with chaos black first, or can the fang be my primer layer? I prime my SWs with The Fang and don't have issues.
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Why can’t I ever let something just *be* as it is without needing to convert it? 
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I dunno. I kind of want to steal the idea to make an Ork buggy
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deffo into the Land Rover, whose STC was found by Rover, Mr. Land's faithful dog companion.
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Floppychop posted:I dunno. I kind of want to steal the idea to make an Ork buggy Everyone's friend Russia makes cheapo buggies for like six bucks https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunter-reconnaissance-warbuggy-by-Tehnolog-from-Robogear-line-Halo/142256677924
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LordAba posted:
I don't understand this. I thought a mortal wound is literally just "take a wound, no saves allowed (unless a rule allows a roll)". So basically it's just a 50% chance to lose two wounds, and for it you get a bunch of stat increases? Seems like a pretty good deal for some high wound, high damage dudes. Not sure how any character wouldn't survive.
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Boon posted:I don't understand this. I thought a mortal wound is literally just "take a wound, no saves allowed (unless a rule allows a roll)". So basically it's just a 50% chance to lose two wounds, and for it you get a bunch of stat increases? I don't think it's meant to kill them since characters have multiple wounds. It's a ritual battle so they just nick each other.
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 Proud of these, but hate photos because they amplify all the flaws for me.
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That looks sick but with colors like those maybe try getting a shot without such intense flash
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Hey can anyone with an Ork Kill Tank let me know how large it is (either in comparison to an infantry model or exact measurements)? I'm trying to kitbash one together with some spare stuff I bought and wanna make sure it's not undersized compared to the real thing.
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Oh poo poo these things have ~options~. What should I set the dudes in the Tyranid starter box up with? Like I don't know if I should give my Genestealers pointy claws or grabby hands.
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DO NOT stray from the rest of this link but this is usable as a general introduction to your units and upgrades https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Tyranids(8E) 1d4chan comes from 4chan /tg/ and the rest of the site is full of nerd humor of the worst caliber and/or rape jokes but the tactics pages are surprisingly comprehensive and usable
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Boon posted:I don't understand this. I thought a mortal wound is literally just "take a wound, no saves allowed (unless a rule allows a roll)". So basically it's just a 50% chance to lose two wounds, and for it you get a bunch of stat increases? Yeah, it rules. Especially since I don't see why you couldn't just have an apothecary patch homeboy up during the game. The only reason I wouldn't use this thing every drat game is because I'd have to paint up some Space Wolves first - I'll gladly blow a CP and take a 50/50 shot at eating a wound in exchange for making a chaplain or Azrael/Belial just that much more of a CC beatstick. On the SW side of it, you could put it on scouts, and who cares if one of them eats it (though I guess it's pretty hosed to make a scout fight Azrael), or do Wulfen, who won't die from it and could make use of the buff themselves. This will for sure get used when I'm doing team games with ShadowDaesh, otherwise I'm not sure it's worth painting the models and whatever for it, I just love the goddamn fluff behind it.
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BJPaskoff posted:Oh poo poo these things have ~options~. What should I set the dudes in the Tyranid starter box up with? Like I don't know if I should give my Genestealers pointy claws or grabby hands. One set of each per bug. You're also going to want to put the weird chin-testicles head on one in every four bugs.
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The shame of a scout putting a mortal would on Azrael is pretty high. What about a Lone Wolf? Guy with a death pledge who just keeps following Azrael around trying to pick a fight war zone to warzone.
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ANAmal.net posted:Yeah, it rules. Especially since I don't see why you couldn't just have an apothecary patch homeboy up during the game. Why would you not just have a SW character or Lone Wolf or something?
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JoshTheStampede posted:Why would you not just have a SW character or Lone Wolf or something? You'd have to eat a CP to add a single HQ. Better to do a minimum cost patrol detachment.
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RagnarokAngel posted:You'd have to eat a CP to add a single HQ. Better to do a minimum cost patrol detachment. It's totally worth the CP for the hilarious optics of just having one really belligerent space wolf following the dark angels around picking fights with their leaders.
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Space Marines don't use stubbers.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Why would you not just have a SW character or Lone Wolf or something? Honestly, I forgot Lone Wolves existed.  Karandras posted:The shame of a scout putting a mortal would on Azrael is pretty high. What about a Lone Wolf? Guy with a death pledge who just keeps following Azrael around trying to pick a fight war zone to warzone. Texmo posted:It's totally worth the CP for the hilarious optics of just having one really belligerent space wolf following the dark angels around picking fights with their leaders. This is hilarious, and cool as poo poo, which means it's definitely the way to go. It's probably not worth making this cost 2CP vs just taking a patrol of Space Wolves, but gently caress if I'm gonna paint any more of those dudes than I have to, and the image of one angry fucker following the army around just to fight their general is too perfect. ANAmal.net fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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BJPaskoff posted:My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in! Good friends Get yourself some Gaunts! And eventually a 'fex or two. But that'll do for now  Know what hive fleet / color scheme you like yet?BJPaskoff posted:Oh poo poo these things have ~options~. What should I set the dudes in the Tyranid starter box up with? Like I don't know if I should give my Genestealers pointy claws or grabby hands. Yeah ~options~ is a thing with GW minis so you can screw up before you've even started!  Luckily Tyranids are pretty good all around right now and 8th helped with balance across the board so there's not as many plain awful choices. Its more about tweaking your list to be better at killing this or better at killing that or balanced for both. With a small size force like that not really any way to go wrong. But Goose Willis suggestion of the 1d4chan page is a great way to get you primed on some of the strategy. Just make sure you heed his words and avoid clicking ANY links lol. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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SpikeMcclane posted:
gently caress yes vibrant tyranids! I feel like we're kindred spirits. What do you call em?
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BJPaskoff posted:My friends just pitched in and bought me the Tyranid starter set, a box of Genestealers, and a box of Gargoyles. So I guess I'm in! I'm a newbie to Nids too. Hivefleet Orochi says hi. 
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Deified Data posted:I'm a newbie to Nids too. Hivefleet Orochi says hi. Seeing the brand new start collecting boxes completely finished together like that makes me feel ashamed of my 10 gaunts I painted over four months. Good job man.
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Zaphod42 posted:Good friends If I want balanced, is a pair of talons and a pair of claws on each one (plus one with a fancy ooze cannon or whatever it's called) good to go with? I think the Trygon is going to stay the basic Trygon and not a prime version or that weird maw creature. I love the way Gaunts look so I'll be picking those up ASAP. The whole thing started with me asking my friend to pick up that $8 box of Gaunts from his morning trip to The War Store's warehouse because I wanted to try various painting techniques on them, and he came back with the Start Collecting box and a box of Genestealers. I'm not looking forward to putting all the Genestealers together. My friend's already taken the Broodlord home to pin it to the weird shell it stands on because normal glue isn't going to hold that on worth a drat. I don't know the hive fleet yet. I browsed the 1d4chan post and it sounds good but I don't know what I'll need until I actually play a game. My first few are going to be 500 points, so what's recommended? The closest thing to 40k I played was Bolt Action, and I liked being shooty and hard to kill, which is why Genestealers might not be the best for me, but we'll see - I have 500 points-ish now. I don't like 40k lore really (sorry!) which is why if I was going to play it was going to be Tyranids. They don't care about a grimdark universe or gods or politics, they just want to eat things. As for paint schemes, I don't know yet. I did a cool black and dark purple scheme with snow for my Shadespire undead, and I want to do some cool Snow Bugs.
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LordAba posted:
Somebody please tell me the Dark Angels get a dread for Bjorn to spar before every game.
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moths posted:Somebody please tell me the Dark Angels get a dread for Bjorn to spar before every game. Keyword Infantry.
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Newbie Tyranid guy, a little secret: 99% of 40k players can't tell Tyranid wargear apart by sight anyway. Still make an effort, but you're unlikely to have a problem if your stuff ends up being modelled slightly wrong.
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moths posted:Somebody please tell me the Dark Angels get a dread for Bjorn to spar before every game. If it wasn't infantry only, I'd totally have Bjorn and a librarian Dread punch each other then go punch all the things.
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