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Moriatti posted:I don't think Tarantino is a good fit for the franchise. His stories tend to focus on Vices, violence and revenge. It's hard to see that working well in Trek. Trek characters don't quip, and consider violence to be a last resort. I think people vastly over-estimate how hard it is to write for Trek, based on how clannish Trek writing became in the Berman era. The Trek writing table needs more good and accomplished writers.
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Tarantino's favorite moment in Star Trek is in The Undiscovered Country. I'll let you guess what
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Tarantino's favorite moment in Star Trek is in The Undiscovered Country. I'll let you guess what Probably when Spock says "go to hell ... if I were human." Edit: Or did I get whooshed and the joke is Crewman Dax
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Trek's easy, Trekkies are hard. There's a tone you have to hit, and if you miss it it's not Trek, and if you hit it it's a boring retread.
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Timby posted:Probably when Spock says "go to hell ... if I were human." Yep http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dax%27s_feet.jpg
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Brawnfire posted:Trekkies are hard.  vvv If you're going to be like that I retract my emoji vvv The Bloop fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Brawnfire posted:Trek's easy, Trekkies are hard. There's a tone you have to hit, and if you miss it it's not Trek, and if you hit it it's a boring retread. The generally-acknowledged best Star Trek films (II, IV, and VI) are the least "standard Trek" films. Trekkies don't really know what the gently caress they want, but they do want good writing. "Good writing" being the thing Trek consistently has had a problem with throughout the ages. "Trek must only be X things" is nonsense put in place by Roddenberry, who was always a terrible writer and during most of TNG was hopelessly senile, and then it was carried on by Berman, who is now widely regarded as having dealt lasting damage to the IP at almost every step of the way, to the point that good Trek exists almost in spite of him.
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:If they let a different good director do a non-canon standalone Trek movie every couple years playing around with whatever details of the franchise they wanted to, that could be really fun. I dont' need Tarantino to be the standard-bearer of canonical Trek, but I also don't necessarily need canonical Trek to be a happy and well-adjusted person. Let Wes Anderson make a Trek of little doll house ships. A Wong-Kar Wai Trek of beautiful, stifled yearning. They already did that, Nemesis, the JJ trek movies, Discovery. Weird totally non-canon bits that are sadly generally pretty bad on their own and horrible as trek.
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Baronjutter posted:They already did that, Nemesis, the JJ trek movies, Discovery. Weird totally non-canon bits that are sadly generally pretty bad on their own and horrible as trek. ....you're seriously trying to claim that Nemesis had a good director?
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I like to hope that Tarantino would see this as a challenge. Think about it. We’ve had nothing but poo poo-to-mediocre Trek for decades now. Maybe he would see it as a clarion call to Do It Right, whatever that means. No Tarantino gimmicks, just pure good filmmaking. Nobody would see it coming and that sounds right up his alley. We can dream!
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thexerox123 posted:....you're seriously trying to claim that Nemesis had a good director? Oh I missed the "good" part. I'd love to see a Wes Anderson Trek.
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Dec 5, 2017 20:33
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Give me a Jodorowsky Star Trek Before he dies
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Abrams certainly isn't a director of the first water Abrams has a pretty good style, and least he has a style. Can't say that for Frakes or Nimoy.
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Windows 98 posted:Give me a Jodorowsky Star Trek Before he dies The Holy Asteroid
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Why, yes. What Trek needs is definitely more stories by problematic white men who think they are the authority on race.
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McSpanky posted:The Holy Asteroid If you’ve ever seen Jodorowsky’s Dune you would know that Jodorowsky has one amazing and crazy vision of what Sci-Fi should be. It’s a god drat shame he never got to do anything in the genre.
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Ok give me a Taika Waititi Trek then. "What we do in the Jeffries Tubes"
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It would be extra hilarious to do an Axanar MOCKumentary; take all the poo poo the Axanar people scripted out and turn it into a farce.
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Brawnfire posted:It would be extra hilarious to do an Axanar MOCKumentary; take all the poo poo the Axanar people scripted out and turn it into a farce. What happens when you turn a farce into a farce? Farce squared? Does it cancel out? Dark side of the farce?
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Excessive farce.
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Too much farce and you end up with a masterpiece. Never forget the lessons of The Producers.
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thexerox123 posted:....you're seriously trying to claim that Nemesis had a good director? No director could have salvaged Nemesis. EDIT: oh, derrrrrp. i need to learn to R->C->P
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Maybe two takes Frakes
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Baronjutter posted:Oh I missed the "good" part. The non center part of the frame... the final frontier.
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The Bloop posted:On pizza it goes even better with bacon! I never knew how badly I needed an Orion Syndicate movie in my life. DS9 was probably the only Trek iteration that would even try, though, and even then it was well into the show before they were wiling to do episodes that were just straight-up crime movies where the gangsters have goofy masks.
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So after about 8 episodes of TOS I started TNG. While I adore old sci-fi nonsense and love TOS so far my girlfriend (who is a big fan of Orville too) wasn’t too keen on it. TNG is already fantastic too. This first episode is great. Q guy is fantastic. The first thing out of her mouth when Data spoke was “woah he sounds just like Isaac!” 
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You're in luck because the next two episodes of TNG after the pilot are widely considered two of the best the series has to offer.
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Oh poo poo. Gene from Layer Cake is in the crew. Nice!!!
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CPColin posted:You're in luck because the next two episodes of TNG after the pilot are widely considered two of the best the series has to offer. Oh yeah, "Code of Honor" was so well-received that they hired the writer behind it to write almost the exact same script for Stargate SG-1's 3rd episode as well.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Oh yeah, "Code of Honor" was so well-received that they hired the writer behind it to write almost the exact same script for Stargate SG-1's 3rd episode as well. Just what Carter needed after her inside/outside line
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The Naked Time. The Naked Now. I get it. Cool episode so far Edit:haha I read somewhere about someone taking a shower with their clothes on. Nice. Windows 98 fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Watching Eye of the Beholder. The cinematography's already calling attention to itself a little with a fade in zoom out, Picard's head emerging into a tight shot, a dutch angle on Geordi, and an interesting tracking POV of Riker and Worf from behind the ladders they're climbing
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TF you doin Data
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On it's not Data, it's some guy with the worst forehead in the world
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God dang That right there is what all the cold opens should be. I'm actually interested now AND it's obviously related to the rest of the episode.
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Whew I hope this is actually about what drove that guy, or the consequences of what he did, and not Riker's boo hoo guilt
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I like how Picard mentions Starfleet officers have never committed suicide
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