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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I find it strange that so many Republicans have been up in arms to defend monuments to Democrats.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Godholio posted:

I find it strange that so many Republicans have been up in arms to defend monuments to Democrats.

I hope someone lets it slip that the Confederate Flag is the flag of Southern Democrats so we can ignore the party switch yet again.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
That's going to be be my new talking point when it comes up. :lol:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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Godholio posted:

That's going to be be my new talking point when it comes up. :lol:

I had a person I ran into who was violently Alt-Right, especially with Confederacy, and I asked him: If the KKK is a spin off of Confederate Groups (he acknowledged they are), and the Confederacy was Democrats, why does the KKK support the GOP and GOP party members?

He got really confused and then mumbled something about Heritage Not Hate.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



mlmp08 posted:

Muh' Heritage!



Now-gone statue in New Orleans.

Do you have a source for this?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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DoktorLoken posted:

Do you have a source for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liberty_Place_Monument

quote:

The following inscription was added in 1932:

[Democrats] McEnery and Penn[18] having been elected governor and lieutenant-governor by the white people, were duly installed by this overthrow of carpetbag government, ousting the usurpers, Governor Kellogg (white) and Lieutenant-Governor Antoine (colored).

United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state.

In 1974, the city government added an adjacent marker, which stated:

Although the "battle of Liberty Place" and this monument are important parts of the New Orleans history, the sentiments in favor of white supremacy expressed thereon are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans.

When the monument was moved in 1993, some of the original inscriptions were removed, and replaced with new inscriptions that state in part:

In honor of those Americans on both sides who died in the Battle of Liberty Place ... A conflict of the past that should teach us lessons for the future

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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tyler
Jun 2, 2014


:perfect:

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008

CommieGIR posted:

I had a person I ran into who was violently Alt-Right, especially with Confederacy, and I asked him: If the KKK is a spin off of Confederate Groups (he acknowledged they are), and the Confederacy was Democrats, why does the KKK support the GOP and GOP party members?

He got really confused and then mumbled something about Heritage Not Hate.

When people start firing out racist history catchphrases they will eventually come around to "it was about states' rights". Just ask them why the constitution of the confederacy mandated that "negro slavery" was a nationally protected institution and new territories/states could not make their own decisions about whether to include slavery or not.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Also how slavery was reason #1 listed in most states' Articles of Secession sent to Congress. I think it was #2 for the rest of them.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008
And the reb states all fought against the northern states' rights to not return fugitive slaves before the war. So modern folks who indulge in confederate icons as symbols of freedom and history are championing the opposite of freedom while promoting a historical narrative that is deliberately inaccurate.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


cross posting this cause holy gently caress,

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

on another note


redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

https://twitter.com/ironshackle/status/933508645287006208

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Dudes hat owns

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


https://twitter.com/USArmyEurope/status/937850772984823808
The Piss Tape is Real.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Do you think we can track down the photographer and see if he got a picture of that guy rubbing his cheeks immediately after that shot?

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

lol

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

tyler
Jun 2, 2014


Reading this in his voice lmbo

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
https://twitter.com/louis_allday/status/938486065928855552

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

And it's not just Obama, it's more or less every serious presidential candidate in the last 40 years.

And until Trump, every single one of them wised up upon taking office (or were just lying in their campaign) because they realized it would undermine the peace process and destroy the United States's credibility as a mediator.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

at the date posted:

And it's not just Obama, it's more or less every serious presidential candidate in the last 40 years.

And until Trump, every single one of them wised up upon taking office (or were just lying in their campaign) because they realized it would undermine the peace process and destroy the United States's credibility as a mediator.

But a political candidate making baseless statements and lying on the campaign trail is okay guys don't worry

drain the swump

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


which one of u is this

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

But a political candidate making baseless statements and lying on the campaign trail is okay guys don't worry

drain the swump

I didn't say it was OK to lie.

I'm saying it's OK to renege on a promise to do something that will actually cost lives.

Ideally, none of them would have made the promise to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Having made that promise, it is better to break it than go "welp, few days of riots, gently caress it."

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

at the date posted:

I didn't say it was OK to lie.

I'm saying it's OK to renege on a promise to do something that will actually cost lives.

Ideally, none of them would have made the promise to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Having made that promise, it is better to break it than go "welp, few days of riots, gently caress it."

I'm getting at the fact that the MAGA warriors will trot this video out as an example of how trump isn't wrong about what he did because obummer did it first, and they will ignore the fact that it was on the campaign trail while saying that the promises trump made while campaigning are just "things you say to get elected nbd"

It wasn't a post against you

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

I'm getting at the fact that the MAGA warriors will trot this video out as an example of how trump isn't wrong about what he did because obummer did it first, and they will ignore the fact that it was on the campaign trail while saying that the promises trump made while campaigning are just "things you say to get elected nbd"

It wasn't a post against you

ah, gotcha

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


i can't tell if someone is being clever or not

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I'm going to start a Church of Santa, Santanic Temple maybe. We're going to worship Santa in exchange for consumer goods, and point out the weak connections between Christmas and Jesus.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm going to start a Church of Santa, Santanic Temple maybe. We're going to worship Santa in exchange for consumer goods, and point out the weak connections between Christmas and Jesus.

This is the most "gently caress you" I've ever really felt about any christmas movie. I didn't watch it, but listened to a flophouse podcast about it. It's basically just a super tortured interpretation of the Bible and Jesus' teachings to support not feeling bad about being super duper rich and going whole hog on consumerism, capitalism, and pagan symbols.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-yA66kaVc

Biblical Jesus would be running around that movie set yelling and knocking poo poo over.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

This is the most "gently caress you" I've ever really felt about any christmas movie. I didn't watch it, but listened to a flophouse podcast about it. It's basically just a super tortured interpretation of the Bible and Jesus' teachings to support not feeling bad about being super duper rich and going whole hog on consumerism, capitalism, and pagan symbols.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-yA66kaVc

Biblical Jesus would be running around that movie set yelling and knocking poo poo over.

kirk cameron is fukken weird

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

kirk cameron is fukken weird

What, his whole 'Banana is the perfect fruit because GAWD' spiel didn't tip you off?

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

He made those Gods Not Dead movies too, and those are the "christian marine punches atheist professor" meme in physical form.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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brand engager posted:

He made those Gods Not Dead movies too, and those are the "christian marine punches atheist professor" meme in physical form.

Pertinent:

https://youtu.be/Bc7KEOUi2Ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QjT-AaFyTM

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
https://twitter.com/BuckyIsotope/status/940068624407998465

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