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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This poll is either fake or old as hell. I just found it - something tells me whoever gave Trump that poll left out this other bit: quote:The majority of voters, 51 percent, did not approve of Trump's job in office. But his approval rating in the Dec. 1-3 survey is the highest since a Sept. 29-Oct. 1 poll in which he was also at 45 percent. He has not been higher than 45 percent since early July. He then dipped in August in the wake of his reaction to violence in Charlottesville, Va. edit: Worth noting it is (unsurprisingly) a huge outlier (its the dot on the dotted line) 
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RiggenBlaque posted:What poll is that? I can't even find it You’d think he’d give himself something higher for his fake Facebook dad poll.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This poll is either fake or old as hell. nope, seems legit: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-2864-d9e9-a365-ef7f68650000 difference may be asking "somewhat" approve as an option: his support is very weak and half is "somewhat" while the overwhelming majority of disapproval is "strong"
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saintonan posted:No, it's really not good for you or anyone else, even in small doses. It's perfectly fine to avoid that poo poo like the plague. My take on that is based on my late father, who was a moderate conservative for most of his life but started to rattle off talking points from Facebook walls, email chains, conspiracy theories and such increasingly often as he got older. He and I used to argue issues of the day regularly, and he'd bring up things that made it obvious where he got his news from. (Sometimes it was small giveaways, like how no one other than the conservative press has given a poo poo about Al Sharpton in the last fifteen years but suddenly he was in our conversations three times a week as One of Obama's Main Advisors, or how George Soros runs the world. Sometimes it was full-blown wack-a-loon conspiracy theories like how Isn't It Strange How Everyone Who Angers The Clintons Ends Up Dead? Yeah, Dad, it sure is. Maybe switch from RT over to the Game Show Network today?) I'm going to run into people like this on a regular basis. If I can debunk bullshit quickly, accurately and thoroughly, it puts doubt in their mind that my going off to research it and bringing it up three days later doesn't. Going in prepared by knowing what the latest conspiracy theory that's all the rage in Breitbartian circles is helps quite a bit in deprogramming.
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HootTheOwl posted:I actually posted that when before I knew about the story of the yearbook addendum. So now it's official. nah i'd give him maybe a 30-40% shot before the story and that hasn't meaningfully budged it's not going to encourage very many people to go vote that wouldn't have before, and it's not going to make statistical anybody stay home that wouldn't have before in a close race that's still bad but you're being a dumb pessimist
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Vladimir Putin posted:New jobs report shows a very strong economy. Say what you will, I’m happy about that. I unironically hope it craters so the knives finally come out for the average person re: Trump
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RiggenBlaque posted:What poll is that? I can't even find it https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/politico-morning-consult-poll/
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RiggenBlaque posted:What poll is that? I can't even find it Here's Politico's page for it. They're not even on 538's big pollster ranking, so take it for what you will.
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RuanGacho posted:There was a story the other day that 40% of the US's wealth is now owned by the top 1%. gently caress your "employment" and your "economy" our brothers and sisters are still suffering. I don't disagree but a strong economy still means there's more to redistribute 
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STAC Goat posted:Except that they were operating in bad faith yesterday and already Moore supporters. The notion that the victim and her allies hosed up because they gave people who wanted to disbelief them a flimsy excuse to do so weeks into a situation where they were clearly already disbelieving them is just so ... argh! It's something that'll sway some people half heartedly paying attention to the scandal. You're talking like you believe everyone's a well informed actor, voting in bad faith if a narrative permits it, when propaganda is so pernicious because of the banality of why it's effective.
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TheKingofSprings posted:I unironically hope it craters so the knives finally come out for the average person re: Trump They've been out, it's just the average person seems to think that their smartphone making it so they can monetize the fact that they own a car is what help looks like.
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the economy is buoying trump's numbers. if the numbers weren't so good he'd be in the 20s even with his insane cult.
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Just from the past 2 days: Reuters: 37% approval IBD/TIPP: 36% Gallup: 37% Pew: 34% CBS News: 36% Quinipiac: 36% Rasmussen: 42% (lol bullshit) So yeah, he ain't at 45 loving percent
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Of course he is at 45%. He asked himself and his wife whether he is the best president, and every poll has some error involved.
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TheKingofSprings posted:I unironically hope it craters so the knives finally come out for the average person re: Trump Honestly it’s pretty much peak for our current environment. You’re not going to get any more good factory jobs that require only high school education. And 4.1 % unemployment is exceedingly low. If it dips below 4% and into the 3% range everyone is going to lose their poo poo. I mean when was the last time that happened, during a war where there’s a vast manpower shortage. My point being that this is probably peak economic strength given all circumstances. It probably can’t get all that much better.
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Many millenials joined the job market during the recession, and research is showing this will doom them to making less money over the course of their lifetimes. They will also have have lower wages despite more experience from all those internships. So yeah, more people are "employed" on paper but the job outlook is pretty awful. The GOP is slowly but surely going to decimate the health sector, largely one of the few bastions left for actual career type positions. We have lots of gigs, fast food and retail, but our economy is still functioning as if we are chasing after short term highs...actual long term growth and success indicators like customer trust and employee value are gone.
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Somebody saw the Pew results.
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Vladimir Putin posted:Honestly it’s pretty much peak for our current environment. You’re not going to get any more good factory jobs that require only high school education. And 4.1 % unemployment is exceedingly low. If it dips below 4% and into the 3% range everyone is going to lose their poo poo. I mean when was the last time that happened, during a war where there’s a vast manpower shortage. And yet...
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Dec 8, 2017 19:06
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So Cards Against Humanity bought a bunch of land on the border in order to delay the wall. If you bought into it you get multiple letters with little things they've done. Today I got this. These guys are good dudes.
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Dec 8, 2017 19:07
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Hastings posted:Many millenials joined the job market during the recession, and research is showing this will doom them to making less money over the course of their lifetimes. They will also have have lower wages despite more experience from all those internships. So yeah, more people are "employed" on paper but the job outlook is pretty awful. The GOP is slowly but surely going to decimate the health sector, largely one of the few bastions left for actual career type positions. We have lots of gigs, fast food and retail, but our economy is still functioning as if we are chasing after short term highs...actual long term growth and success indicators like customer trust and employee value are gone. it's always funny when people go folks get more conservative when they get older! well you can't gently caress you got mine when you don't even got mine.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the economy is buoying trump's numbers. if the numbers weren't so good he'd be in the 20s even with his insane cult. I think if he presides over an economic collapse they'll drop like that, but I think that its more he's so visibly incompetent that the people who would usually be swayed to support the president because of the economy have realized to some degree it's not him at all and are not just going "eh he seems like he's doing a good job." If the economy was middling and he wasn't improving it I think he'd still be at the same level. But an economic collapse that could be credibly blamed on him would drop him into the 20s, I think.
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The thing that bugs me the most about the yearbook comment news is that I know one person who is the Dunning-Kruger Effect Made Flesh, and they are *dead certain* the yearbook note is a forgery. They're unlikely to realize that the note itself is legit and will still gloat like a motherfucker about it regardless.
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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 looks like whoever leaked this email to CNN misread it, and it is not that interesting - because it came after the documents were public, not before
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Ken Popehat Lawsplainer: Donald Trump Jr and Attorney-Client Privilegequote:So was the conversation by Trump Jr. and Trump Sr. privileged, because there was a lawyer in the room, or their lawyers were on the call?
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morcant posted:This sounds like a good idea? Good or bad it’s going to be ugly.
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Push El Burrito posted:So Cards Against Humanity bought a bunch of land on the border in order to delay the wall. If you bought into it you get multiple letters with little things they've done. Today I got this. i mean, no like this is a cool publicity stunt but quote:Several people that I went to school with have posted a Baltimore Sun article from 2012 about the success of Cards Against Humanity, a popular indie party game created by a Goucher alum.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 amazing how CNN fucks up pretty much every scoop they manage to get
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 CNN is once again crap at journalism.
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Push El Burrito posted:So Cards Against Humanity bought a bunch of land on the border in order to delay the wall. If you bought into it you get multiple letters with little things they've done. Today I got this.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 Who cares? The right wing media doesn't give a poo poo about objective reality. If a story hurts them we should run with it even if the date is off. edit: I realize I have become what we seek to destroy...but I don't think I care any more. They have to lose. They have to. I don't care how it's done.
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Rinkles posted:It's something that'll sway some people half heartedly paying attention to the scandal. You're talking like you believe everyone's a well informed actor, voting in bad faith if a narrative permits it, when propaganda is so pernicious because of the banality of why it's effective. And you're talking like there's a significant presence of voters who are not only sincerely undecided on this matter but also are going to be swayed by a Fox News headline but somehow weren't swayed by the other Fox News headlines. It makes no sense to me. Fox News was calling it a forgery yesterday. They're calling it a forgery today. If the argument is that good faith uninformed viewers don't read the nuance of a story and will just believe the headlines than why are today's forgery headlines more powerful than yesterdays? If this were a REAL media narrative I might be more sympathetic to this take, but its not. Its a story making its way around the same places that have spent weeks claiming it was a forgery and Moore was innocent. So who is being exposed to this who wasn't exposed to that and why is this more powerful than the story where "the victim's mother confessed she was told to say it by the Washington Post!"?
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 So, how often has CNN hosed up like this? Because every time it happens it just adds fuel to the fire.
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stone cold posted:i mean, Well cool I didn't know about that. It really is true that everyone you ever think is good is actually awful.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 aw, lame
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/939194326369882115 Goddammit
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Push El Burrito posted:Well cool I didn't know about that. a good rule of thumb is to never think men esp. in power are good because they will always let you down without fail
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