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Phanatic posted:How does that work? If 100 people pledge, then how isn't that 100 separate transactions regardless of how Patreon chooses to batch them? It is. What he's talking about is if you support 100 different people, you should only be charged once and have Patreon divide it up internally, rather than have them charge you (and the associated fees) 100 separate times.
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Phanatic posted:How does that work? If 100 people pledge, then how isn't that 100 separate transactions regardless of how Patreon chooses to batch them? I think it's the other way around. You support 10 artists and it's a single CC charge from Visa.
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Phanatic posted:How does that work? If 100 people pledge, then how isn't that 100 separate transactions regardless of how Patreon chooses to batch them? I think it's more of "Person X is subscribed to 8 different Patreon accounts", Patreon makes one charge to their card for the total amount they're pledged across all of those and then distributes that money to the different accounts, making it one transaction on the individuals card. Now it's "Person X is subscribed to 8 differnt Patreons" *charges processing fee on each of those 8 accounts despite it only being one transaction on the persons card*. I could be wrong though. efb
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It's similar to Twitch, where if you're subscribed to multiple channels, your card gets hit on the anniversary date of your subscription to that particular channel, instead of all on the same day.
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Also, currently if you have a patreon account and you are a patron, you can use payments that you haven't been paid yet to pay out to other creators. Under the new system you can't do that and you'll be charged a processing fee for money that was always Patreon's in the first place. Zipperelli. posted:It's similar to Twitch, where if you're subscribed to multiple channels, your card gets hit on the anniversary date of your subscription to that particular channel, instead of all on the same day. Yes, but Twitch foots those processing fees, it's a part of their cut.
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Kurieg posted:Also, currently if you have a patreon account and you are a patron, you can use payments that you haven't been paid yet to pay out to other creators. I thought the broadcaster ended up paying the transaction fees, but like, it just came out of their check?
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Zipperelli. posted:I thought the broadcaster ended up paying the transaction fees, but like, it just came out of their check? But the creators NEED to make more money! Seriously! <points at a photo of a nigh-anorexic content creator> See? It has NOTHING to do with our VC overcapitalization and subsequent panic! <keeps pointing at the creator photo so you don't see the fat investor snorting coke of the rear end of one of the pinup girl creators>
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Zipperelli. posted:I thought the broadcaster ended up paying the transaction fees, but like, it just came out of their check? Perhaps, and that's sort of how it works now with Patreon. But the thing is that literally every creator is okay with that because it's still more money than they'd get if they didn't have that subscriber in the first place. Pushing the processing fee to the Payer is ludicrously stupid.
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Samizdata posted:But the creators NEED to make more money! Seriously! <points at a photo of a nigh-anorexic content creator> See? See, this is what I was thinking at first, but then it also came out that Patreon still takes a further cut of what the creator gets. So while, yes, the creator is technically getting more by not paying the transaction fees themselves, they also still have an amount taken out of that money that is probably pretty close to what they were already losing. It's pretty blatant how much of a cash grab this is by Patreon.
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SpacePig posted:See, this is what I was thinking at first, but then it also came out that Patreon still takes a further cut of what the creator gets. So while, yes, the creator is technically getting more by not paying the transaction fees themselves, they also still have an amount taken out of that money that is probably pretty close to what they were already losing. It's pretty blatant how much of a cash grab this is by Patreon. Yeah, mo' money to justify the over-capitalization they have due to the VC crowd. They done got greedy during fundraising (as well as a sloppy round of overstaffing (IMO), so now they have to stay greedy to stay in business. Of course, I am not an MBA or your MBA, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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canyoneer posted:Maybe Patreon should start a Patreon for themselves if they're so hard up for cash lol that might even have gotten a pretty good response actually
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Surely, this is Hatreon's time to shine!
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What happens when they run that same calculation to figure out how overcapitalized twitter is?
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Trebek posted:That is a Chad rear end pool party. It really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKX9JVxyK5s
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Brave man going in there without a shirt on.
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Burning_Monk posted:Brave man going in there without a shirt on. He was going to pick a fight with that cat. He would have lost.
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What's the purpose of that hole? Drunk trap?
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MisterBibs posted:The cat is, technically, not wearing a shirt either. Would a cat shirt just cover the top half of the cat or the front?
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:What's the purpose of that hole? Drunk trap? Access to something? idk but you can tell it goes further to the left.
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Child abuser gets 40 years, says this during the sentencequote:“I don’t know if you’ve had a chance to review my demo reel or my resume, but I am an internationally award winning concept artist,” Weixelman said, adding he felt he could help prisoners learn to treat women with more respect. Apparently he's also a goon??? http://www.newsminer.com/news/local_news/man-sentenced-for-abusing-child-for-six-years/article_b2416df6-d994-11e7-af9d-7f75f68c9db7.html
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wanna see that demo reel ... probably i dont, actually
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It was a Star Citizen demo reel so all it would've been was thinly-veiled copies of other iconic spaceships with as many identifying features scraped off as possible.
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Well, absurdly enough he actually has a demo reel up. https://fuzzymodem.deviantart.com/ (nothing nws) Also it should come to no surprise that he is a fan of Star Trek.
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huh! i guess i can see why he thought those spaceships might have made an impression on the judge?!
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nerdz posted:Child abuser gets 40 years, says this during the sentence quote:His father praised his son as a creative storyteller, screenwriter and movie maker and said jail has been a “traumatic experience” for Weixelman.  Boo loving hoo loving hoo.quote:Weixelman said he worries about the girl’s ability to trust people, especially men. Hmm, really?????????? quote:“I know that it was incredibly difficult for her. It’s hard for me, because, of course, I’m kind of in a terrible situation,” Weixelman said. Good
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Your Computer posted:Surely, this is Hatreon's time to shine! Not exactly the same but Youtube is beta testing a sponsorship option that's basically the same thing as Patreon. You'd think Youtube would focus on fixing the ad problem first.
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Ariong posted:
That was an almost perfect recreation of Tim Buckley's explanation of Loss.
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Ariong posted:
This is like the megaversion of appropriating the language without having listened to its content. "I'm a feminist, I--" youuuu raaapeee chilldreeen. Speaking of which, Temple Grandin's own mother wrote an article about how it's not really the fault of autistic people that they conspicuously consume child porn uhhhhh lady that's not a good look  .quote:Though now equipped with a full-grown body and full-grown sexual drive, many ASD males are stuck emotionally at a prepubescent age. They look like grown men, but inside they’re only 10 years old. They don’t want adults to show them how sex is done; they want 10-year-olds to show them. Back in school when they were little and the other kids played “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine,” ASDs were left out. Now at last they’ve found a way to join the old childhood game and it’s with their trusty friend, the computer. creative souls
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Pick posted:This is like the megaversion of appropriating the language without having listened to its content. "I'm a feminist, I--" youuuu raaapeee chilldreeen. Isn't this the most generous explanation for Michael Jackson and his penchant for hanging around with kids so much (and possibly molesting them)? Daddy Jackson hosed him up so badly that the only people he wanted to be around were children?
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MisterBibs posted:Isn't this the most generous explanation for Michael Jackson and his penchant for hanging around with kids so much (and possibly molesting them)? Daddy Jackson hosed him up so badly that the only people he wanted to be around were children? You are a complete fool I hope you never have kids because I don't want you to watch your children die from choking on hotdogs that you and they idiotically keep eating genetically
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Werewolves collect silverware Vampires live in castles with large windows and easily torn curtains The Bibs Clan are irresistibly drawn to hotdogs
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