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BadLlama posted:Well supposedly they are rebalancing some of the maps they are making into HD? Oh let me go get a snack while I wait, this might take them a while....  Azhais posted:All I've heard about is just getting rid of some of the climbs DNF was released 6.5 years ago....  Also, LOL about getting rid of "some of" the climbs.... Thanks, Wargaming!  Prav posted:the map team has rebalanced just about every map several times. lots and lots of effort has been put in. They have not.  Prav posted:there was AW but obsidian are eternal fuckups, and also War Thunder which seemed to have messed up core gameplay so i never even tried it and also it's a flight sim or something No, Obsidian was the competent developer, the publisher "my.com" or whatever hosed up. Obsidian had an actual vision for a unique modern tank game, and the publisher suppressed them before finally dumping them to turn it into a literal WoT clone. McGavin posted:I keep getting autoassigned to the ALGUM BR? server and I have to play a game before I notice. It is as bad as you'd expect. When you get on the BR server you have to follow through with the experience by asking "EN? EN?@???!?" in chat. Also just use the mod that remembers your preferred server. HFX posted:I told you. My predictions regarding the MM were exactly correct. This has been the problem all along with MTs making LTs obsolete. Wargaming has no idea how to make scouts useful, unique, and viable. McGavin posted:I just had a guy on my team whose WN8 matched his win rate at 44. That actually seems like a high WR for 44 WN8.  Control Volume posted:You cant point to a different path as if new players are going to magically know what tanks to avoid. That's the problem with the game as a whole, both in terms of the lack of proper training/tutorial and in that a developer should not intentionally put shitbrick speedbumps into their game. lovely tanks just make you not want to play the game (and spend more money on it) but good tanks make you want to keep them, play them more, and most importantly spend money on shiny camo, equipment, and crews.
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Pendent posted:I too enjoy not being able to repair the tracks of my tank until I grind out a module. an easy price to pay in exchange for competent modeling, intuitive spotting mechanics, decent map design and no horseshit gods-eye artillery
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Azhais posted:All I've heard about is just getting rid of some of the climbs Hey now, don't say that. We never though HD models would come out but most of them have! It's only taken them several years to get like 70% of the way there. McGavin posted:I keep getting autoassigned to the ALGUM BR? server and I have to play a game before I notice. It is as bad as you'd expect. At least it's more noticeable than when you'd get assigned to NA West and it'd take you a couple games to wonder, "why are 10+ players dealing 0 damage every game/why are five of my teammates AFK?" Prav posted:the map team has rebalanced just about every map several times. lots and lots of effort has been put in. Redshire is a vast improvement over what it used to be. It's still poo poo but it's better. El Halluf is a vast improvement over what it used to be. It's still poo poo but it's better. Arctic Region....well it's not worse than it used to be. Somehow they managed to remove Sacred Valley, change it, and put it back it as the worst map in the game. That's truly amazing. I don't know if there's any chance the HD maps will be a success. Just think about the maps that aren't in the game anymore. Pearl River was utter trash, then they changed it to add more paths and eventually removed it because they're loving morons. All they had to do was remove ALL base camping positions and that map would have been fine with the artillery changes. Dragon Ridge was removed because Wargaming wants us to suffer and we cannot have nice things. Port was removed because apparently it's cheaper to remove the map instead of changing it. Northwest (the mining map?) was unbalanced garbage and was unfixable without massive changes. Same with Severogorsk and South Coast and Komarin and Hidden Village. Wargaming has a tendency to make their maps slightly better with redesigns, and if the first redesign doesn't work, they just throw the whole map away for some reason. If the HD maps do actually have gameplay changes, there's a decent chance they'll be for the worse simply because Wargaming's lead map designer is a crayon eating moron.
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DonkeyHotay posted:tanks is somehow way worse than it was years ago so i just picked war thunder up completely sight unseen two weeks ago and the core gameplay loop is so much better than wot's I played War Thunder during the closed beta and the tanks were pretty fun. I just tried it out again a few months ago and the tank experience was not fun, at all. I'd take out my panther and get one-shot in 8 out of 10 matches. Great realism though. The planes are super fun.
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For as lovely as AW is, I've got to say I like their Advent Calendar idea more: You also don't 'miss' a present if you miss a day. That's a nice touch.
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HFX posted:Also, light tank chat. While the 90MM on the T49 is an improvement, it still is a mostly worthless tank that cannot really contribute to the battle. In fact, other than the premium lights, I struggle to find almost any case where I wouldn't rather be in a medium. I would disagree. The T49 is basically the closest we got to the old tier5 Chaffee with tier5-10 MM. Basically the same MM, but more HP and pen. If you knew how to do it then, it is basically the same thing again but better. It is btw a tank that greatly benefits from Autoaim+, since the whole point of it is to drive around like a maniac and snap-shooting. Hellsau posted:Redshire is a vast improvement over what it used to be. It's still poo poo but it's better. El Halluf is a vast improvement over what it used to be. It's still poo poo but it's better. Arctic Region....well it's not worse than it used to be. Somehow they managed to remove Sacred Valley, change it, and put it back it as the worst map in the game. That's truly amazing. How many iterations of Komarin did we have in the end? Worst map ever. Svamp was redesigned and is pretty broken for north side, since you can just send one tank to scout the southern ridge while being covered by TDs on the northern ridge.
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Cardiac posted:How many iterations of Komarin did we have in the end? Worst map ever. Swamp is such bullshit because it's lane gameplay with only two halflanes, and those lanes are one-way since going castle from north is suicide and going northeast from south is unsupportable, and trying to approach the enemy base from either corner is suicide, so it's either one team getting stomped for being bad or a campfest.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For as lovely as AW is, I've got to say I like their Advent Calendar idea more: This made me go log into AW and check it out. As in your pic, I can only open days 1 and 2 - I cannot open today's or any in between, any idea why? The news page doesn't shed much light on it either: quote:Log in every day from December 7 2017 to January 1 2018 to the dedicated web page to receive your daily present. Each present is, however, only available for two days – make sure to log in every day to obtain your gift!
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Darkrenown posted:This made me go log into AW and check it out. As in your pic, I can only open days 1 and 2 - I cannot open today's or any in between, any idea why? The news page doesn't shed much light on it either: I didn't notice the 'two day limit.' I've a feeling you can't open the third day yet because it's not the unlock time in whatever godforsaken Eastern European/Russian city AW's HQed in. I moved to the European server a long time ago.
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I guess, I thought it was like an Advent calendar and had started from Dec 1st. I downloaded a 25GB update to check what AW is like these days. At the end of it I tried to log in only to be told the servers were down and I should "check the forums for details" 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For as lovely as AW is, I've got to say I like their Advent Calendar idea more: Yeah but how can WG monetize this
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Hellsau posted:Northwest (the mining map?) was unbalanced garbage and was unfixable without massive changes. Holy poo poo I completely blocked this map from my mind. This map...wow. Port was also horrific, but could be amusing if everyone ended up in a crazy death ball. Severogorsk was also really freaking bad. Man how do you take something that involves exploding other things and make it so soul crushing 
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Holy poo poo I completely blocked this map from my mind. This map...wow. Port was also horrific, but could be amusing if everyone ended up in a crazy death ball. Severogorsk was also really freaking bad. Man how do you take something that involves exploding other things and make it so soul crushing We did a Map Exhibition tournament on Northwest. Unsurprisingly, North could not lose unless they played so badly that they chose to lose.
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Since the Tiger 131 is the current advent calendar deal, is it a reasonably okay crew trainer for German heavies? Don't have a crew trainer yet, because I went with the JT88 over the Löwe what feels like seventeen years ago.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Since the Tiger 131 is the current advent calendar deal, is it a reasonably okay crew trainer for German heavies? Don't have a crew trainer yet, because I went with the JT88 over the Löwe what feels like seventeen years ago. Maybe. it comes with its own 100% bia crew, so I'm actually just using it and my 4503 to train up that crew instead of my normal one so I have a spare crew for the 7201 line if I decide to finish off the german tree
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Hellsau posted:Swamp is such bullshit because it's lane gameplay with only two halflanes, and those lanes are one-way since going castle from north is suicide and going northeast from south is unsupportable, and trying to approach the enemy base from either corner is suicide, so it's either one team getting stomped for being bad or a campfest. Swamp is also so hilariously unbalanced towards the north spawn, especially if they have a tank with gun depression that goes to G1 or G2.
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serious gaylord posted:Swamp is also so hilariously unbalanced towards the north spawn, especially if they have a tank with gun depression that goes to G1 or G2. Anyone I've ever seen do this just gets rushed since if they're in G1 or G2 they're also hidden from the northern snipers
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Azhais posted:Anyone I've ever seen do this just gets rushed since if they're in G1 or G2 they're also hidden from the northern snipers I realise I meant to type G6 & 7. 1 & 2 is decent but you get hit hard by enemy arty.
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Just had BurgdoffAmi on my team. First time I've ever seen a player with a WN8 of 1. Overall win rate of 38.8%, rounding up.
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McGavin posted:Just had BurgdoffAmi on my team. First time I've ever seen a player with a WN8 of 1. Overall win rate of 38.8%, rounding up.
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McGavin posted:Just had BurgdoffAmi on my team. First time I've ever seen a player with a WN8 of 1. Overall win rate of 38.8%, rounding up. That's the first time you've ever seen a bot?  Average damage 85, average tier 3.4, >1k battles. 111 battles in the M10, <30% winrate. That's a bot, champ. Or a statbadder. Which reminds me, who wants to create statbadding accounts to see just how low we can go?!?
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quote:Wheeled vehicles will be introduced. The only known info is that right now, WG is at the info gathering stage, and that the planned ETA is 2019-2020. One of the first ‘tanks’ will be the Puma. As Rykoszet states, implementing the vehicles IS NOT SURE, but very probable. However, the info that WG is searching for data and has plans to introduced wheeled vehicles is a fact. Huh.
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Atomizer posted:That's the first time you've ever seen a bot? I'm pretty sure it's some dude's wife and her name is Ami Burgdoff and her husband's name is Glenn. Oh, guess what, , so yes she is a real person, and she is really that bad, champ. Somebody fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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E-25 available on the european server lmao.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Since the Tiger 131 is the current advent calendar deal, is it a reasonably okay crew trainer for German heavies? Don't have a crew trainer yet, because I went with the JT88 over the Löwe what feels like seventeen years ago. I got a VK 45.03 in some competition and it's pretty good so I'm going to assume they'll sell it again soon so maybe buy that instead?
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Fat Jesus posted:I got a VK 45.03 in some competition and it's pretty good so I'm going to assume they'll sell it again soon so maybe buy that instead? I bought the 131 purely for the TR mission, I'll be honest
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I thought the 131 was the japanese one, and I hadn't played in months till a few days ago and there's a bunch of tanks I don't recognize like a Guard and a someothertiger and lol @ how many E25's are in every 7ish battle though most are poorly played, like they ram into some HT's side and hold down butan thinking they can't be shot totally forgetting their victim has 3 other HT's with him. Also I can't win probably need to but premium time to get better MM, right?
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Fat Jesus posted:Also I can't win probably need to but premium time to get better MM, right? You can't win because almost everyone playing right now is loving terrible.
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McGavin posted:You can't win because almost everyone playing right now is loving terrible. How is that different from normal? Also WG have murdered the Lefh. No splash and changed HE mechanics killed it.
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Darkrenown posted:Huh. It's going to take them 2+ years to add wheeled vehicles...after the several years this game's already been in development?!  McGavin posted:I'm pretty sure it's some dude's wife and her name is Ami Burgdoff and her husband's name is Glenn. Oh, guess what, [, so yes she is a real person, and she is really that bad, champ. Wow, nice job being a loving creep cyberstalker! I don't give a poo poo that that's somebody's actual name, it's still really loving creepy that you had to look that up.Anyways, you can still name an account after an actual person and run a bot on it, champ!  WN values are a measure of what you do in the game. Unless a WN8 of 0 (or <0) is possible, 1 indicates that that account is not being actively (or seriously) played by a real human. We should really do the statbadding experiment to see just how poorly an account can look but there's no doubt that that's not a "real" account.Cardiac posted:Also WG have murdered the Lefh. I thought they couldn't nerf any premium tanks?!? That's why the M41 90 is so OP, etc. (Also, I think, if they were smart, maybe they could've gotten around that "no nerf or refunds offered" legal drama if they only allowed premium tank purchases for gold instead of real money, so at worst they'd have to offer refunds in gold instead of cash.) Somebody fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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Atomizer posted:I thought they couldn't nerf any premium tanks?!? That's why the M41 90 is so OP, etc. They can murder the mechanics. Which for arty only affected 2 premium tanks, where only one was actually good. I would say they also murdered the IS-6, KV-5 and all other premiums with lovely pen with the introduction of the Defender, Patriot and so on, just by applying power creep.
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Cardiac posted:How is that different from normal? People use something besides the premium ap shells on that?
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I dunno, I think having no splash is probably a decent tradeoff for nearly 3x the fire rate, unnerfed HE pen, HEAT shells, 390m view range, significantly better accuracy and bloom stats, etc., but I havent played mine in a while.
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Yeah the Lefh can keep most low tier tanks permatracked its literally one of the most annoying tanks in the game.
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It's why it was so drat much fun to platoon in it, with that rof you just picked a target and went at it until it died. It literally couldn't do anything.
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Atomizer posted:We should really do the statbadding experiment to see just how poorly an account can look but there's no doubt that that's not a "real" account. You'd want to do it in a platoon in tanks that have outsized impact on their team's chances, like doing a 3x pref 5 or pref 8 platoon and just dragging your team down with you. You'd have to do over a hundred games though and that'd take a long time to accomplish very little.
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Cardiac posted:They can murder the mechanics. I guess I don't understand what they can and can't get away with with regards to nerfing premium tanks. You'd think that if making the M41 90 a tier 9 (because that's essentially what MM it had pre-LT rebalance) was unacceptable, or giving it more appropriate stats for a new tier 8 LT was a similarly untenable alternative, then changing the fundamental mechanics of an SPG would constitute a similar nerf even if you were only adjusting the shells and nothing else on the vehicle itself. Hellsau posted:You'd want to do it in a platoon in tanks that have outsized impact on their team's chances, like doing a 3x pref 5 or pref 8 platoon and just dragging your team down with you. You'd have to do over a hundred games though and that'd take a long time to accomplish very little. Yeah I definitely think it'd be more "effective" to do it in a platoon, although at this point the idea is to justify that a WN8 of 1 is either due to botting or intentional sabotage. I'd also be curious to see what the difference in stats would be if you didn't quite intentionally statbad (i.e. by blocking allies shots or bumping them, etc.) but rather moved around just enough, and sprayed fire just frequently enough without doing anything to help. Think just locking cruise control while pointing at the enemy team, maybe plinking a few shots at something you know you can't pen, all to play intentionally worthlessly but make it just obvious enough that it's an actual player and not a bot.
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McGavin posted:You can't win because almost everyone playing right now is loving terrible.  Note: that was with the 105 mm.
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