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Yes the movie looks bad and I don't want to see it is quite hot.
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Dec 9, 2017 07:43
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Nah you're just one of those perennial Alita haters always fixating on good CGI and non horrifying production designs.
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Dec 9, 2017 08:03
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sethsez posted:Why else make her all-CG, all the time? And I somehow doubt that the effects team working on this is competent enough to produce a main CG character of this quality while also being incompetent enough to get the size of human eyes wrong. The CGI looks really bad though?
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Dec 9, 2017 08:51
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Trailer CGI often doesn't reflect the final film, things get refined all the time, look at any of the thousands of youtube videos by The Angry Comic Atheist Ranter or whoever that talks about them. But big changes like altering that lady's eyes for the whole film is probably a step beyond. I am guessing she was filming with all the green screen stuff all over her face so they can't just not use the effects, they would have to go an alter every scene the main character of this film is in. That's probably enough to make the film unprofitable by itself.
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Dec 9, 2017 09:29
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I mean I've got pretty awful taste and tolerance for cliches and cartoon silly poo poo, I post earnestly about Disney cartoons for gently caress's sake, and if I'm immediately turned off by it that probably means dire, dire things for the rest of the potential audience. It might save the movie if the trailer disappears quietly and gets a total effects rework, though that'd probably cost a shitload of money at this point.
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Dec 9, 2017 10:26
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Movie will bomb for sure commercially but I think it looks pretty drat interesting. And the creepiness of Alita is directly addressed in the trailer so it's obviously intended, which is at least a bit better than the alternative.
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Dec 9, 2017 11:10
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I need more than an awkward teaser and a director who has been iffy for a while to know if it's gonna be bad or not. I was extremely iffy on Ghost In The Shell but I ended up enjoying it quite a bit, and now wish I had seen it in theaters.
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Dec 9, 2017 11:13
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Shageletic posted:It's the eyes. Bioshock Infinite movie looking pretty good.
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Dec 9, 2017 11:21
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DC Murderverse posted:I'd like to take a moment to recognize that the movie's cast is very heavily hispanic (I assume Rodriguez pushed for this) which is a fairly big deal for a blockbuster of this magnitude. Rosa Salazar as the lead is cool, but also Eiza Gonzalez, Marko Zaror, Jorge Lendeborg Jr, and the motherfucking queen of action Michelle Rodriguez. Also no one knows or cares what Battle Angel Alita is. It being based off a cartoon they never saw or heard of(as opposed to one they have, or something original) is another turn off.
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Dec 9, 2017 13:24
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Alhazred posted:The CGI looks really bad though? All the complaints I've heard seems to confuse "bad" with "it creeps me out". I don't agree with the former and think the latter is actively a good thing, so meh at all the hate.
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Dec 9, 2017 13:40
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There’s nothing wrong with creepy. Splice did something like that quite well. But “unintentionally hilarious” and “immediately takes me out of the movie and makes me question the design choices that led us here” probably weren’t what they were going for. It looks like someone’s DeviantArt Final Fantasy OC (do not steal) come to life.
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Dec 9, 2017 14:09
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Yeah that design is not creepy at all to me, it just looks funny
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Dec 9, 2017 14:12
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DC Murderverse posted:Jon Peters is a treasure trove of classic Hollywood stories. like the flip side of Robert Evans. instead of being a hollywood wunderkind who was in the right place at the right time who ended up being responsible for many of the greatest auteur-era films of the 1970s before burning out, he was a hollywood wunderkind who was with the right woman at the right time who ended up being responsible for a bunch of absolute loving garbage and still works regularly. I imagine both did enough cocaine to kill a gorilla. He hasn't worked in six years. He got money off of Man of Steel but that's due to his ownership of the rights. He came out on the losing side of a sexual harassment lawsuit in 2011 and basically killed his career the moment the verdict came down. All he can get now are residuals.
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Dec 9, 2017 16:44
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Also no one knows or cares what Battle Angel Alita is. It being based off a cartoon they never saw or heard of(as opposed to one they have, or something original) is another turn off. you'd be reeeally surprised. it has a pretty big cult following in the US and with people you probably wouldn't expect to be into anime, it was actually one of the earlier things Viz brought over here back in the 90s. it's not, like, Attack on Titan level popular, but it's probably on the same level as something like Guyver or Fist of the North Star.
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Dec 9, 2017 16:46
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The Cameo posted:He hasn't worked in six years. He got money off of Man of Steel but that's due to his ownership of the rights. He came out on the losing side of a sexual harassment lawsuit in 2011 and basically killed his career the moment the verdict came down. He’s producing A Star is Born with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, which comes out next year.
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Dec 9, 2017 17:34
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Patrick Stewart said he would come back to play Jean Luc Picard if Tarantino's Star Trek movie allows it. He loves his films and wants to work with him. http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-trek/news/a845033/patrick-stewart-wants-to-star-in-quentin-tarantino-star-trek-movie/
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Dec 9, 2017 17:35
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Maybe you're just a bad design
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Dec 9, 2017 17:51
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A preview of Tarantino Trek:
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Dec 9, 2017 17:59
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:you'd be reeeally surprised. it has a pretty big cult following in the US and with people you probably wouldn't expect to be into anime, it was actually one of the earlier things Viz brought over here back in the 90s. The manga was popular enough in french to get multiple printings. It's also why I'm bothered by the name change: the french translation kept all the original names, so it's more a matter of familiarity than anything else. I wonder if the french dub will keep the american names or go back to the originals?
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Dec 9, 2017 18:06
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I remember telling my friend way back in the day (circa Jackie Brown era, if not earlier) how it would be cool if genre directors like Carpenter or Tarantino were allowed to direct Next Generation episodes. Someone should give Carpenter a Star Wars movie to direct.
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Dec 9, 2017 18:31
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It would probably look like this scene in Rogue One, except for the whole film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LORtuZ0ISF4 and that'd be raaaaad
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Dec 9, 2017 18:35
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DC Murderverse posted:He’s producing A Star is Born with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, which comes out next year. Weird, i was just wondering the other day if that would get remade soon
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Dec 9, 2017 18:43
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DC Murderverse posted:He’s producing A Star is Born with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, which comes out next year. But is he an active producer on the project, because this could be just as much a case of him holding film rights as the Superman stuff, given he and Streisand were the producers on the '76 version (and funny enough, if what people involved say is to be believed, that credit is a thing he talked Barbara into in the first place and he wasn't actually involved in the, y'know, production of the actual movie or even getting the remake rights).
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Dec 9, 2017 18:46
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DC Murderverse posted:He’s producing A Star is Born with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, which comes out next year.
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Dec 9, 2017 19:18
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Casimir Radon posted:Why is Andrew Dice Clay in it? Why is he in anything anymore? Because your motha's a hoo-ah. OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
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Dec 9, 2017 21:21
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Gatts posted:Patrick Stewart said he would come back to play Jean Luc Picard if Tarantino's Star Trek movie allows it. He loves his films and wants to work with him. Stewart was the biggest horndog ever on the set of TNG, I'm not at all surprised he likes Tarantino.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:32
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Grendels Dad posted:All the complaints I've heard seems to confuse "bad" with "it creeps me out". She looks like a bad cgi cartoon.
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Dec 9, 2017 21:50
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Also no one knows or cares what Battle Angel Alita is. It being based off a cartoon they never saw or heard of(as opposed to one they have, or something original) is another turn off. I really hope that's not true. "Not an adaption of something you're already familiar with" is a selling point to me by now, but I'd hope at least it's not something most people would consider a strike against an upcoming movie. Like "what's this? I don't know this show. gently caress that."
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Dec 9, 2017 21:52
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:you'd be reeeally surprised. it has a pretty big cult following in the US and with people you probably wouldn't expect to be into anime, it was actually one of the earlier things Viz brought over here back in the 90s. It was never on toonami, adult swim, cartoon Network, Fox kids, or kids WB, no one knows what the gently caress it is
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Dec 9, 2017 23:18
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Fried Watermelon posted:Watch them reduce the eyes due to the backlash, just like the Bane voice fiasco Did they do something to Bane's voice between trailer and release? I feel like I must have missed something here because it seemed bizarre and interesting in both cases.
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Dec 9, 2017 23:24
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It was even more muffled and audience couldn't understand him when they showed the DKR intro scene at some theater event so they redubbed it
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Dec 9, 2017 23:28
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Sinners Sandwich posted:It was even more muffled and audience couldn't understand him when they showed the DKR intro scene at some theater event so they redubbed it Ah, I don't suppose that trailer exists out there somewhere. Curiosity is piqued.
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Dec 9, 2017 23:43
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Ape Agitator posted:Ah, I don't suppose that trailer exists out there somewhere. Curiosity is piqued. It wasn't a trailer but a clip of the plane hijacking they released very early. Here's the original clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vBW6jvspF8 By the time actual teasers and trailers were out it was already changed.
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Dec 10, 2017 00:12
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Neo Rasa posted:It wasn't a trailer but a clip of the plane hijacking they released very early. Here's the original clip: "At least you can talk!" lol
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Dec 10, 2017 00:15
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Alhazred posted:She looks like a bad cgi cartoon. gently caress how she looks. Close your eyes, watch the trailer and tell me that dialogue isn't just absolute hot garbage.
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Dec 10, 2017 00:35
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Neo Rasa posted:It wasn't a trailer but a clip of the plane hijacking they released very early. Here's the original clip: Yeah, they played this in front of Mission Impossible 4 if you went and saw it in IMAX. So you had every opportunity to hear it very loudly and it was loving incomprehensible. I'm glad they fixed it.
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Dec 10, 2017 02:19
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It was never on toonami, adult swim, cartoon Network, Fox kids, or kids WB, no one knows what the gently caress it is I don't think so Tim.
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Dec 10, 2017 03:23
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It was never on toonami, adult swim, cartoon Network, Fox kids, or kids WB, no one knows what the gently caress it is ACES CURE PLANES posted:I don't think so Tim. It's pretty obscure compared to Ghost In The Shell and it's ridiculously obscure compared to something like Dragon Ball or Pokemon. It doesn't even register on the graph:  Edit: it's more obscure than Chobits 
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The Cameo posted:But is he an active producer on the project, because this could be just as much a case of him holding film rights as the Superman stuff, given he and Streisand were the producers on the '76 version (and funny enough, if what people involved say is to be believed, that credit is a thing he talked Barbara into in the first place and he wasn't actually involved in the, y'know, production of the actual movie or even getting the remake rights). nah, he's an active part of the process. From this article: quote:The chance to remake A Star Is Born — a sexy, serious cautionary tale with a moderate budget, the type of movie the major studios rarely make — gradually drew him back into the business. It has been an on-again, off-again project for 10 years, as big names such as Clint Eastwood and Beyonce have come and gone. "There were a lot of complicated deals on Star Is Born, a lot of heavy-hitters," Gerber adds. "And Jon could not have been more helpful in getting it all in line." The script now is getting a preproduction polish from Oscar winner Eric Roth (Forrest Gump).
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's pretty obscure compared to Ghost In The Shell and it's ridiculously obscure compared to something like Dragon Ball or Pokemon. It doesn't even register on the graph: see, i'm not arguing that it's some massive million-seller or anything. the words i believe i used were "cult following," and I specifically compared it to Fist of the North Star and Guyver in popularity. at a glance, my comparison was basically dead-on: internationally, FotNS destroys the other two in popularity, but in the US there's not that huge a gap and all three are basically near each other. e: your methodology is flawed in that you're doing 2004-present, when last 5 years is a better indicator.
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