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CelticPredator posted:I've only ever heard of this thing through Cameron's talk. And I thought it was a show with Jessica Alba, but that was another Cameron joint with the world Angel in it. Yeah, that show was what Cameron created when the Battle Angel writer refused to sell Cameron the rights.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 06:06 |
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RPO is literally about how a rich guy made a video game out of all his favourite 80's references and said the best at it will inherit all his stuff and maybe have a chance at unfucking the world, with the implication that the future's pop culture has been completely obliterated by everyone desperately studying the past so they can be number one.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 07:44 |
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Everything I hear about RPO just makes me turn away in disgust.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 08:49 |
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Pretty sure that no solution to the world's problems is found at the end of the book. "Hide from the world's problems in a video game!" and "We must save our video games at all costs!" are maybe not the best messages to be sending in the age of Trump and Gamergate. I expect Spielberg would try to fix that a bit but he might as well be trying to adjust the messaging in The Turner Diaries, it's that much of a piece of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 09:03 |
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This is actual prose from Ready Player One: A Novel. This is not a joke: quote:Halliday is at a dance being held at a high school gymnasium. He's surrounded by teenagers whose clothing, hairstyles and dance moves all indicate that the time period is the late 1980s. Halliday is dancing, too--something no one ever saw him do in real life. Grinning maniacally, he spins in rapid circles, swinging his arms and head in time with the song, flawlessly cycling through several signature 80's dance moves. But Halliday has no dance partner. He is, as the saying goes, dancing with himself. Just what is a signature 80's dance move? Grabbing up on your nuts?
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 09:13 |
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Ready Player One is the ultimate text illustrating the ideology of nerdism. Regardless of its (horrendous) quality, it absolutely did predict the Disney/FOX purchase and the attendant “now we can have X-Men in the MCU!” reactions. It could only have been the product of an utterly sociopathic shamelessness. The antidote to it are the satires of nerdism: Gamer, Chappie, and Sucker Punch.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 09:32 |
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:This is actual prose from Ready Player One: A Novel. This is not a joke: based on everything i've heard and read about RPO, i am incredibly impressed that Cline had the self-control to not follow that with "...which is a song from the 1980s by Billy Idol" actually, that paragraph is also very indicative of who exactly the book is aimed at: people who can picture "The 1980s" in their head. You point out that there's no description of the dance moves, but there's no description of anything. He literally just says that everything "indicate[s] that the time period is the late 1980s." in 20 years that will mean basically nothing to anyone picking up the book unless they have a preconceived notion of what the 1980s looked like. a 20-something in 2030 is gonna pick up this book and immediately say "this is loving garbage" because all of the references are going to be even more out of date; it's like one of those Looney Tunes shorts that no one watches anymore because it's just a series of caricatures of celebrities that most people don't remember. And those references are all it has going for it because this sort of story (even ignoring the blatant subtext of "just lose yourself in this world to get away from your troubles, nothing wrong with that!!) is told much more effectively in a million other books about unexciting white boys going on an adventure to save the world. edit: Like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Steps_Out quote:A large bird's-eye view of Los Angeles is shown with searchlights moving to a conga beat. The action takes place in the famed Ciro's nightclub, where the Hollywood stars are having dinner — at $50 ($814.14 today) a plate and "easy terms". The first stars seen are Claudette Colbert, Don Ameche, and, at a table behind them, Adolphe Menjou and Norma Shearer, followed by Cary Grant, seated alone. Grant talks to himself: "What a place! What a place! It's as pretty as a picture. But if I ever told my favorite wife the awful truth I'd land right on the front page. Yessireee Bobby." (All these jokes are references to some of his films, although The Front Page was retitled His Girl Friday after it was mostly completed.) DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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davidspackage posted:Everything I hear about RPO just makes me turn away in disgust.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 09:49 |
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Like the Marvel weapon developer comic, RPO is no worse than what's come before - it's just too obvious.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 09:52 |
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Man, I can't wait for this movie to have come and gone. I hate reading about it, it almost offends me.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 10:46 |
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80s nostalgia was hilarious back when they had Hulk Hogan and Vanilla Ice on VH1. That was like, 2006. It's now a religion and this is the Dianetics
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 10:49 |
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DC Murderverse posted:based on everything i've heard and read about RPO, i am incredibly impressed that Cline had the self-control to not follow that with "...which is a song from the 1980s by Billy Idol" That was fun to read and imagine, i havent seen it in at least a decade. https://youtu.be/xOFG_qmoH8I
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DC Murderverse posted:based on everything i've heard and read about RPO, i am incredibly impressed that Cline had the self-control to not follow that with "...which is a song from the 1980s by Billy Idol" A song from the 70s by Generation X you mean.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 12:21 |
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Are we absolutely positively sure rpo isn't a satire? Maybe NYT et al. thought it was a satire.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 13:30 |
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Are we absolutely positively sure rpo isn't a satire? Maybe NYT et al. thought it was a satire. It is not satire.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 14:20 |
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He wrote another book that was exactly the same, so no it isn't satire.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 14:41 |
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Are we absolutely positively sure rpo isn't a satire? Maybe NYT et al. thought it was a satire.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 14:50 |
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Just what is a signature 80's dance move? Grabbing up on your nuts? There's the zombie walk from Thriller and... the side-to-side claw swing from Thiller. So yes, all MJ moves.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 14:58 |
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IDK why Spielberg is even bothering, a perfect adaptation of RP1 already exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W6bnsDaeI
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Are we absolutely positively sure rpo isn't a satire? Maybe NYT et al. thought it was a satire. I almost thought this when I saw his spoken poetry work, check out "Nerd Porn Auteur."
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 15:24 |
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I hope the entire video game hunt plot gets abandoned halfway through the film and the kid joins a communist revolution or something.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 15:51 |
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Red Bones posted:I hope the entire video game hunt plot gets abandoned halfway through the film and the kid joins a communist revolution or something. Luckily, The Hunger Games already exists.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 15:55 |
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This is not the first turd Spielberg has polished, although it may be the worst.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:04 |
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The very basic premise of Ready Player One - that the entire world is in thrall to the whims of an elderly, white software developer obsessed with the pop culture of the eighties, to the point where Earth's environment has completely deteriorated, its nations are ruled by under-qualified celebrities, and everyone has nihilistically abandoned all hope for reality and abandoned it for a crappy videogame - has a lot of promise and is fairly relevant to our society today. The fact that the main character and everyone around him is obsessed with the mere aesthetics of eighties cinema and TV, the actual physical artifacts of those days rather than the values they demonstrate or their underlying themes rings true, if darkly. The antagonist being an evil corporation that only wants to use eighties culture to make money seems like the half-stirring of an actual subversive point. The problem is that these ideas should be criticized because they're going to destroy the planet, but Ernest Cline (and the Silicon Valley people who love RPO) believe that this is the way the world should be, and that is horrible.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:26 |
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While pretty much everything has been nightmarish and terrible in 2017, this has been the best year in video games for half a decade at least.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:31 |
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pospysyl posted:The very basic premise of Ready Player One - that the entire world is in thrall to the whims of an elderly, white software developer obsessed with the pop culture of the eighties, to the point where Earth's environment has completely deteriorated, its nations are ruled by under-qualified celebrities, and everyone has nihilistically abandoned all hope for reality and abandoned it for a crappy videogame - has a lot of promise and is fairly relevant to our society today. The fact that the main character and everyone around him is obsessed with the mere aesthetics of eighties cinema and TV, the actual physical artifacts of those days rather than the values they demonstrate or their underlying themes rings true, if darkly. The antagonist being an evil corporation that only wants to use eighties culture to make money seems like the half-stirring of an actual subversive point. I found the idea that the human race would just stop creating pop culture pretty horrifying. I don't like the Warhammer 40k grimdark lore, but the part where humanity hasn't created new technology in millennia because they're in a desperate and hopeless end of times dark age gives me the same feeling. And there's something to the idea of using nostalgia and pop culture as a weapon to keep people in line or just rake in the dollars while not bettering society, since that's essentially much more malicious clickbait. That last sentence is why I enjoyed RPO while I was reading it, but the spell wore off as soon as I was done and realized what it had done to me. The problem is that RPO isn't satire, and it expertly avoids going in the direction of any kind of meaning.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:49 |
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RPO just sounds dumb to me. I also hated Scott Pilgrim, so I may just be a curmudgeonly old man.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:51 |
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I disliked Scott Pilgrim because it was a little too twee for me, but at least it had a plot and a main character who theoretically loving changed as a person instead of being literally given the world in reward for being a useless loving dipshit.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:53 |
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I didn't like Scott Pilgrim but at least it had heart. RPO is basically a compilation of 80's and 90's TV commercials smashed together into a movie.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 16:59 |
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I've consumed a bunch of popular media this year where the lesson is to reject nihilism and understand that everything has meaning (e. G. Bojack horseman, nier automata, night in the woods) but somehow Spielberg decides that 2018 we should get a movie where corporate nihilism has won and the only life achievement attainable is winning a video game contest to find an obscure Easter egg hidden by Notch
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 17:31 |
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Obligatory RPO post: also and yes, he is describing his own car Also I guess he blocked me on twitter after I blocked him for bothering me so lol
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 17:33 |
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Cline and Penn are also responsible for this btw http://m.imdb.com/title/tt3715406/
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 17:35 |
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Golden Globe nominations are in. The Best Film, Comedy or Musical looks crazy competitive with Lady Bird, Get Out, and The Disaster Artist. Lost City of Z and Mudbound were snubbed, as expected, but so was The Florida Project. Florida didn't make it onto my top ten of the year, but I'm suprised the only nomination it got was for Willem Dafoe. They didn't even nominate the kid. The Boss Baby is now a Golden Globe nominated movie, so that's fun.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:11 |
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pospysyl posted:Golden Globe nominations are in. If The Shape Of Water could get a Drama nom, then Get Out should have done so, too.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:15 |
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RP1 reminds me of a family guy episode (family watches it, dont judge!!!) where peter becomes a hyper-successful romantic novel writer, and all his books are written like "Her boobs were big, and she was skinny in a hot way. The guy was very hung and also a millionaire. They were also naked and were really into doing it". Just complete boiled-down trash going through the motions and expecting the reader to already know about what's inside and what they want. "And then the robot from the japanese show you like appeared and shot a weapon at the bad guy from the matrix. The hipster girl and the boring schlub nerd were relieved and also liked each other more. Suddenly your favorite fast and furious car showed up and a league of legends character told him that they needed his help defeating satan (the capcom one), because he was now CEO of the zombie company and the robocop company"
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:16 |
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pospysyl posted:Golden Globe nominations are in. I was mostly amused by Christopher Plummer's nomination for All The Money in the World. I'm sure he is good in it, but there's got to be at least a little bit of "gently caress you, Kevin Spacey" in that nomination. Which is good.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:19 |
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The thing that drives me nuts the most is how RP1 and the culture around it doesn't actually engage with those things, but simply references them for reference's sake. Like, Mobile Suit Gundam is about the all-consuming nature of war and how it chews up the innocent only to spit them back out as shattered human being beings and has remained so throughout it's more modern inceptions, like Origin and Thunderbolt, but that trailer just has a split second of an RX-78 because that's the only everyone knows. It's incredibly hosed up just how utterly cynical and shallow it is.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:21 |
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Cline also wrote the loving terrible Fanboys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoJujK7hSs (I feel dirty for even posting it)
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:29 |
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The worst part about RP1 is going to be the killjoy who wants nothing to do with it while all my friends talk about how awesome it is.
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# ? Dec 11, 2017 18:32 |
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Timby posted:Cline also wrote the loving terrible Fanboys. I had a friend make me watch that. The only thing I remember was Ethan Suplee as Harry Knowles
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