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Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

not trolled not crying posted:

I was mostly amused by Christopher Plummer's nomination for All The Money in the World. I'm sure he is good in it, but there's got to be at least a little bit of "gently caress you, Kevin Spacey" in that nomination. Which is good.

Man, they really need a solid cut off time for those nominations. Half those films aren't even out. Oscars at least have their cutoff on December 31st, then announce the nominations a month later, not before the movies haven't had a wide release.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Detective No. 27 posted:

The worst part about RP1 is going to be the killjoy who wants nothing to do with it while all my friends talk about how awesome it is.

I think that is the one advantage of having all your friends being women around 50

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Iron Crowned posted:

I had a friend make me watch that. The only thing I remember was Ethan Suplee as Harry Knowles

At the time it was released, I was the editor of an arts & entertainment / cultural magazine that my company published. I got dragged to seeing it by one of my business partners and our movie reviewer, both huge Star Wars fans.

When our reviewer submitted his writeup two days later rating it 5 / 5, I wanted to fire him on the spot.

Iron Crowned posted:

I think that is the one advantage of having all your friends being women around 50

I don't know, a friend of mine is nearing 50 and she won't shut up about how excited she is for RP1.

Then again, she still plays Second Life, so...

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012

Neurolimal posted:

IDK why Spielberg is even bothering, a perfect adaptation of RP1 already exists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W6bnsDaeI
That’s not a perfect adaptation. This is.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Timby posted:

I don't know, a friend of mine is nearing 50 and she won't shut up about how excited she is for RP1.

Then again, she still plays Second Life, so...

I had no idea that Second Life was still around.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Supersonic Shine posted:

That’s not a perfect adaptation. This is.

No, this is...
https://twitter.com/prozdkp/status/939961378072416256

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Should've done a Snow Crash adaptation

Has the same real world is a poo poo hole and corporations are the new government (with a pizza delivery outfit being militarized and run by the mafia) and escapism into a virtual second life world.

The gist is that Snow Crash is a virus that fucks you up in the real world if you look at it in the virtual world, much more interesting than find the golden egg at the end of the maze.

Most of the cool stuff happens outside of the VR world though in lovely shanty towns so it would be lighter on the CGI popcorn fiesta effects

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Taintrunner posted:

The thing that drives me nuts the most is how RP1 and the culture around it doesn't actually engage with those things, but simply references them for reference's sake. Like, Mobile Suit Gundam is about the all-consuming nature of war and how it chews up the innocent only to spit them back out as shattered human being beings and has remained so throughout it's more modern inceptions, like Origin and Thunderbolt, but that trailer just has a split second of an RX-78 because that's the only everyone knows. It's incredibly hosed up just how utterly cynical and shallow it is.

It's basically the fiction equivalent of a Funko POP figurine, all the actual texture and detail of popular culture sanded away in favor of bland interchangable totems whose entire appeal is that you Get The Reference.



Supersonic Shine posted:

That’s not a perfect adaptation. This is.

When the guy whose entire career is based around random mash-ups of pop culture is throwing shade you know you've hosed up.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
I feel obligated to post Ernest Cine's spoken world poetry every time he comes up so here is Nerd Porn Auteur




Guy Mann posted:

It's basically the fiction equivalent of a Funko POP figurine, all the actual texture and detail of popular culture sanded away in favor of bland interchangable totems whose entire appeal is that you Get The Reference.

At least with Funko POP you Get The Reference, because Ready Player One will force you to get the reference even if you don't get it.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Taintrunner posted:

The thing that drives me nuts the most is how RP1 and the culture around it doesn't actually engage with those things, but simply references them for reference's sake. Like, Mobile Suit Gundam is about the all-consuming nature of war and how it chews up the innocent only to spit them back out as shattered human being beings and has remained so throughout it's more modern inceptions, like Origin and Thunderbolt, but that trailer just has a split second of an RX-78 because that's the only everyone knows. It's incredibly hosed up just how utterly cynical and shallow it is.

The book does engage that way. It simply says that (for example) Ghostbusters is extremely good and we should all be libertarians like the Ghostbusters and fight the EPA and other forms of Big Government. This can lead us to the neofeudalism of Star Wars, which is insanely desirable because we can have robot servants like Luke did. There’s no cynicism Cline sincerely loves the free market, loves the internet, loves oppression.

I don’t know if Gundams appear in the book, but the point would be the same: Cline believes War is good if it brings us closer to the singularity and having the giant anime robots that we can deploy against the Illuminati and the zombies from Day Of The Dead.

(Again, this was satirized by leftist anti-nerd Neill Blomkamp in his District 9 trilogy.)

SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 11, 2017

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
So after the trailer dropped I actually read the entire run of BA Alita, barring the spinoffs, and I gotta say I have no idea why they went with the big eyes look. It never comes up once in the manga and her eyes are easily average size.

Its especially weird because 99% of the other cyborgs in the scrapyard are way more inhuman. A lot of looking like full on metal robots. And the non cyborg population are flesh and blood mostly because they can't afford it or don't need it. There's really no seperatism between cyborgs and human, on the scrapyard at least. And I highly doubt the movie will go into Tiphares too much.

That scene with the "I'll give you my heart" does make me think it'll be cobbled together from a bunch of different arcs, and will end up being a weird Frankenstein monster like GitS.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Fried Watermelon posted:

Should've done a Snow Crash adaptation

Has the same real world is a poo poo hole and corporations are the new government (with a pizza delivery outfit being militarized and run by the mafia) and escapism into a virtual second life world.
Hobby Lobby just got busted doing something the evil billionaire in Snow Crash does.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Fried Watermelon posted:

Should've done a Snow Crash adaptation

Has the same real world is a poo poo hole and corporations are the new government (with a pizza delivery outfit being militarized and run by the mafia) and escapism into a virtual second life world.

The gist is that Snow Crash is a virus that fucks you up in the real world if you look at it in the virtual world, much more interesting than find the golden egg at the end of the maze.

Most of the cool stuff happens outside of the VR world though in lovely shanty towns so it would be lighter on the CGI popcorn fiesta effects

I've been waiting a very long time for a Snow Crash adaptation.

I suspect I'm going to be waiting a very long time further.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



The Saddest Rhino posted:

Cline and Penn are also responsible for this btw http://m.imdb.com/title/tt3715406/

Which wasn't horrible. Other than wanting to punch Cline every single second he appears on screen because he's exactly as awful as you would expect someone who drives a DeLorean and wrote RPO to be.

He shows up with a life-size ET in the loving passenger seat.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Timby posted:

Cline also wrote the loving terrible Fanboys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoJujK7hSs

(I feel dirty for even posting it)
The Weinstein Company

Produced by Kevin Spacey

lmao

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

ALFbrot posted:

The Weinstein Company

Produced by Kevin Spacey

lmao

Has a shout out to Harry Knowle in RP1
What a track record.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Snooze Cruise posted:

Has a shout out to Harry Knowle in RP1
What a track record.

Oh yeah, I forgot to even include the literal worshipping of Harry Knowles in that godawful trailer

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Harry Knowles championed that film for year on his site, it was the only reason I heard of it or the whole cancer plotline controversy

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

:chanpop:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/939302336396005376

I love James Franco :allears:

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Remember the Tommy Wi-Show?

It's hilariously odd.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Thundercracker posted:

So after the trailer dropped I actually read the entire run of BA Alita, barring the spinoffs, and I gotta say I have no idea why they went with the big eyes look. It never comes up once in the manga and her eyes are easily average size.

Her big eyes becomes pretty irrelevant when you get into the latter half of the series as well as Last Order, which is the retcon Kishiro did about a decade ago. His art style has progressed significantly and it also has more female characters to compare against. She would be considered normal against other human women.

Thundercracker posted:

Its especially weird because 99% of the other cyborgs in the scrapyard are way more inhuman. A lot of looking like full on metal robots. And the non cyborg population are flesh and blood mostly because they can't afford it or don't need it. There's really no seperatism between cyborgs and human, on the scrapyard at least. And I highly doubt the movie will go into Tiphares too much.

The one thing I've been hearing about why we only see two-three more cyborgs other than Alita is they may still be working on the visual effects for the others. Looking through the credits on IMDB, there's like five entries for Hunter Killers and another for Akajutty, one of the motoballers from the Killing Angel arc. But, I'm dissapointed in what I've seen so far, since what cyborgs we do see look more like Silverhawks and not like the chipped and scratched 'borgs we see in the manga. It's kind of a hint at the social structure of the Scrapyard, with most of the clanking masses being in very genericized, well-worn bodies, but the successful having super unique customized poo poo or being all shiny and chrome.

Thundercracker posted:

That scene with the "I'll give you my heart" does make me think it'll be cobbled together from a bunch of different arcs, and will end up being a weird Frankenstein monster like GitS.

I think it's very clearly based off the two-part OVA (which is based off the first two arcs), largely because I recognized pretty much all the beats from the OVA in the trailer as well as Jennifer Connelly playing a character who only appears in the OVAs. They're just including Zapan instead of the original cyborg samurai that the OVA came up with as a replacement.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


I'm disappointed they didn't have he do the Son from Hotline Miami 2, considering one of the first memes following it's release was a Room reference...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJW1EiuxRWU

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Thundercracker posted:

Its especially weird because 99% of the other cyborgs in the scrapyard are way more inhuman. A lot of looking like full on metal robots. And the non cyborg population are flesh and blood mostly because they can't afford it or don't need it. There's really no seperatism between cyborgs and human, on the scrapyard at least. And I highly doubt the movie will go into Tiphares too much.

Obviously the next manga to get a US adaptation should be Blame! or one of Nihei's other works. Just go hard into the posthumanist nihilistic hellscapes. I'd love to see a Hollywood studio try to smooth the edges off of stuff like this for mass audience appeal:




(Honestly I think a US adaptation of something like Blame! could work really well but it'd have to be a borderline experimental film from a small-ish studio with matte paintings for almost every shot.)

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Dexie posted:

I've been waiting a very long time for a Snow Crash adaptation.

I suspect I'm going to be waiting a very long time further.

Amazon announced like a month or so ago that they were work on Snow Crash.

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Obviously the next manga to get a US adaptation should be Blame! or one of Nihei's other works. Just go hard into the posthumanist nihilistic hellscapes. I'd love to see a Hollywood studio try to smooth the edges off of stuff like this for mass audience appeal:




(Honestly I think a US adaptation of something like Blame! could work really well but it'd have to be a borderline experimental film from a small-ish studio with matte paintings for almost every shot.)

I actually dug the Netflix(funded?) Blame! movie. They did Cibo pretty well as an inhuman human.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

There's barely any dialogue in Blame!. There's no way that could have a proper live action adaptation.

I want there to be one, but I just don't see it happening.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


For a Blame! live action movie you could just do like the anime did and adapt the Toha Heavy Industries story which has a set beginning, middle, end and has a bunch of characters that Killy interacts with.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Mierenneuker posted:

There's barely any dialogue in Blame!. There's no way that could have a proper live action adaptation.

I want there to be one, but I just don't see it happening.

Is there narration? Could do it like that french movie that 12 Monkeys is a remake of.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity

Neurolimal posted:

RP1 reminds me of a family guy episode (family watches it, dont judge!!!) where peter becomes a hyper-successful romantic novel writer, and all his books are written like "Her boobs were big, and she was skinny in a hot way. The guy was very hung and also a millionaire. They were also naked and were really into doing it". Just complete boiled-down trash going through the motions and expecting the reader to already know about what's inside and what they want.

"And then the robot from the japanese show you like appeared and shot a weapon at the bad guy from the matrix. The hipster girl and the boring schlub nerd were relieved and also liked each other more. Suddenly your favorite fast and furious car showed up and a league of legends character told him that they needed his help defeating satan (the capcom one), because he was now CEO of the zombie company and the robocop company"

I've made this trite post before but it's insanely funny to me that amidst all this we're getting a musical lionizing the life story of P.T. Barnum out this christmas

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


With more proof that Zac Efron should be Nightwing

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
What's going on with the Akira live action movie anyway, is that actually happening?

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



got any sevens posted:

Is there narration? Could do it like that french movie that 12 Monkeys is a remake of.

No, it's pretty much just a broken, ancient machine wandering through fantastical settings, either singlemindedly pursuing his mission or killing things in his way. And there's a touch of the focus character being an unreliable narrator, and a lot of questions raised that are purposefully never answered.

It's why it'd never survive being worked on by a major studio.

Thundercracker posted:

I actually dug the Netflix(funded?) Blame! movie. They did Cibo pretty well as an inhuman human.

I don't know why people were so down on that. Yeah, it had some changes to make it a bit more of a traditional narrative (changing Cibo around, focusing on the Electrofishers, etc), but I think it was about as good as you could hope for. I hope they do more of them.

ACES CURE PLANES fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 11, 2017

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
We almost got a Neuromancer movie written/directed by Vincenzo Natali with art direction by Tsutomu Nihei. That would have been absolutely loving sick.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Syncopated posted:

What's going on with the Akira live action movie anyway, is that actually happening?

Current rumours are that Taika Waititi is interested in directing. Which I would dig immensely.

Especially if he makes it about a couple of Maori kids in post apocalyptic Auckland.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

No, it's pretty much just a broken, ancient machine wandering through fantastical settings, either singlemindedly pursuing his mission or killing things in his way. And there's a touch of the focus character being an unreliable narrator, and a lot of questions raised that are purposefully never answered.

It's why it'd never survive being worked on by a major studio.



Well that's sorta Star Trek 1 and 4, but the machines are the antagonist

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008


What exactly is the difference between "Best Television Series" and "Best Television Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television"? I assumed the latter meant one-off things or a mini-series or something, but then they have things like Fargo, Big Little Lies, Mr. Robot, and Stranger Things in those categories, none of which seem like a "limited series". Although it looks like the Stranger Things and Mr. Robot noms are for supporting performances, which apparently includes all TV or something? Basically, I just don't understand the Golden Globes.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002
Oh Jesus, apparently Ernest Cline announced that he's working on a sequel to Ready Player One

I can't wait

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



got any sevens posted:

Well that's sorta Star Trek 1 and 4, but the machines are the antagonist

I mean, Killy has some pretty questionable morality going. He does stuff like destroy an out of control cloning machine and all the clones in the area, or kill a bunch of people trying to save a member of their tribe who's being human trafficked on a barge he happens to be hitching a ride on. And then when he finds out he kills everyone involved in the trafficking ring.

But it's not like machines aren't the antagonist in the series too, just that there's like four factions of machines (all of which are either straight up evil or just kinda shitheads) and humans as we know them are either dead, evolved into something else, or massively biologically engineered to survive in the hellscape of the series.

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MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

ALFbrot posted:

Oh Jesus, apparently Ernest Cline announced that he's working on a sequel to Ready Player One

I can't wait

A Let's Play of Ready Player One

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