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Endless Mike posted:i've never understood this desire by android people to have nothing at all on their home screen its something about the icons. i have tablets for three platforms and android is the only one with nothing beside a dock
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~Coxy posted:Android is copying IOS again... iOS is always broken because most of its userbase is too dumb to change default settings or even know that settings exist at all. you can coerce iOS to behave if you get a phD in Settings and fiddle about with it a bit in android you always leave the settings menu thinking "this is the best compromise i'm gonna get"
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Jabor posted:lol if you ever see your desktop except in that short time between rebooting and opening an application to actually do something look at this single monitor scrub 😷
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:look at this single monitor scrub 😷 with every window maximized too/. what a tard.
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:what a tard. don’t use that word about android users, it’s cruel to the mentally diverse
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Endless Mike posted:i've never understood this desire by android people to have nothing at all on their home screen someone pretty much said it flat out Negrostrike posted:Because it ain't no loving iPhone
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there's a $400 super google home now
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hifi posted:there's a $400 super google home now did they make buttons work this time?
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CLAM DOWN posted:What's the best Android equivalent app to Apple's Passbook? For tickets, mainly. nimper posted:Google keeps track of your tickets for you, n'est-ce pas? CLAM DOWN posted:Sort of. Take ticketfly for example, the barcodes are right in the email body when I purchase and pkpass files for Passbook are attached. Sometimes, Google will pop up a QR code when it's concert time, but those never work and I'm not sure where the QR code is from as the tickets are barcodes. It's a pain to open my email client and pull up the email body to scan when I enter the venue, and I'm jealous of how seamless it is for my buddy and his iphone. Blue Train posted:Take a screenshot of it and set it as your lockscreen wallpaper
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i have literally never used passbook or seen anyone use passbook, ever. is there even anything in the uk that uses it beyond airlines? the most high tech thing i or anyone i know does before any gig or event is have the pdf ticket in dropbox or something
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Generic Monk posted:i have literally never used passbook or seen anyone use passbook, ever. is there even anything in the uk that uses it beyond airlines? the most high tech thing i or anyone i know does before any gig or event is have the pdf ticket in dropbox or something since they cancelled the annual roundhouse iTunes gigs, no john lewis use it for their loyalty card I guess
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Generic Monk posted:i have literally never used passbook or seen anyone use passbook, ever. is there even anything in the uk that uses it beyond airlines? the most high tech thing i or anyone i know does before any gig or event is have the pdf ticket in dropbox or something i use it all the time. concert and movie tickets use it, store loyalty cards use it, my gym uses it, airlines use it, etc. and when i use it at those places, i generally see lots of other people using it, as well
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fart simpson posted:you mean wallet? wallet was formerly called passbook
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when I was in uk I didn’t use it loads, loyalty cards etc. but in the us I have about 50 Ticketmaster stubs, a bunch of Airlines etc. mostly one offs. it works well and more places should use it, i like how it’s ready to go on the start screen when it knows it’s the right time and date for the event so I’m not digging it out.
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i only use it for boarding passes but i always use it for boarding passes
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thanks, installed this and couldn't find it because apparently I had to select a wallpaper from google now launcher and not live wallpapers lol google
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carry on then posted:i only use it for boarding passes but i always use it for boarding passes also pay
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probably pretty good for everyone if a couple of these more clear-cut lock-in systems like passport and pay don't become too ubiquitous
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:probably pretty good for everyone if a couple of these more clear-cut lock-in systems like passport and pay don't become too ubiquitous how are optional-use convenience systems lock-in systems? there's no reason someone couldn't make an android app that can read and use .pkpass
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Endless Mike posted:how are optional-use convenience systems lock-in systems? there's no reason someone couldn't make an android app that can read and use .pkpass or from just sliding a card
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:probably pretty good for everyone if a couple of these more clear-cut lock-in systems like passport and pay don't become too ubiquitous might be dangerous if Apple had a stranglehold on the notoriously closed systems of displaying QR codes or making RFID payments, which are definitely not available elsewhere.
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Endless Mike posted:how are optional-use convenience systems lock-in systems? there's no reason someone couldn't make an android app that can read and use .pkpass I've personally built a system that could do passbook manipulation (to a limited degree) for a previous company i worked at, so yeah, there's literally no reason this couldn't be done.
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now that stores can have RFID loyalty cards it's a bit more worthwhile than simply displaying a barcode on your screen that the scanner won't ever read first try
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The Management posted:might be dangerous if Apple had a stranglehold on the notoriously closed systems of displaying QR codes or making RFID payments, which are definitely not available elsewhere. this, except unironically, was the point yeah. it didn't come to pass as such, but if e.g. pay had become dominant it is easy to imagine the stickiness of a situation where people goes "eh, my card only works with pay so changing phones would be too much of a hassle", or special rebates involved or whatever. far better to have it remain a bit messy and not have choice of phone hardware also come with too many ecosystem effects not that it is immoral by apple out anything either (perhaps good to imagine google in the same place to more clearly see it as an issue), but there not being a lot of deals in place keeps things rather more flexible
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Athletic Footjob posted:shut up bitch
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Endless Mike posted:i use it all the time. concert and movie tickets use it, store loyalty cards use it, my gym uses it, airlines use it, etc. fair. i always forget that it exists whenever i do something that might make use of it so prob at least partially on me
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this, except unironically, was the point yeah. it didn't come to pass as such, but if e.g. pay had become dominant it is easy to imagine the stickiness of a situation where people goes "eh, my card only works with pay so changing phones would be too much of a hassle", or special rebates involved or whatever. far better to have it remain a bit messy and not have choice of phone hardware also come with too many ecosystem effects so let me see if I can break down this tortured logic: 1) if Apple Pay was not built on industry standard tokenized RFID payments (same as the ones used by Samsung Pay and Android Pay) 2) and it required vendors everywhere and credit providers to support a proprietary interface before it gains any traction 3) and it became the dominant pay method 4) and for some reason credit card makers would restrict your card to only working with Apple Pay then it would be a bad thing. yes, I suppose that’s true.
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The Management posted:so let me see if I can break down this tortured logic: makes u think
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The Management posted:4) and for some reason credit card makers would restrict your card to only working with Apple Pay so to an extent the incentive to use Apple Pay is right here because card issuers have to ship a slow contact chip in the card but can punt spending extra on a fast contactless chip because Apple and various knockoffs bundle and provision their own contactless and the short version is that’s why i Apple Pay at the grocery store instead of waiting on the chip
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Cocoa Crispies posted:so to an extent the incentive to use Apple Pay is right here because card issuers have to ship a slow contact chip in the card but can punt spending extra on a fast contactless chip because Apple and various knockoffs bundle and provision their own contactless but, as the management noted in 1), if you have an android, you can do the same with google pay or samsung pay. hell, with samsung pay, there doesn't even need to be an nfc reader, since the magnetic strip emulator thing apparently works well. your incentive is to use contactless over using the real card, not to use apple pay. if google and samsung don't make people aware of their versions, that's not on apple Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Cocoa Crispies posted:so to an extent the incentive to use Apple Pay is right here because card issuers have to ship a slow contact chip in the card but can punt spending extra on a fast contactless chip because Apple and various knockoffs bundle and provision their own contactless the speed seems to be more correlated with the terminal than the chip. costco's terminals don't do nfc yet, but using a chip card there is almost as fast as apple pay anywhere else. i would think that the increased security would be a bigger incentive to the credit card companies since digital wallets are locked with a pin/biometrics and the transactions involve one-use tokens and a device number instead of your real card number, so even if there is hacking or skimming they can't do anything with the information and it's trivial for the card issuer to just push a new device number to you vs cancelling and re-issuing your physical card.
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what 3rd world hellhole do y'all live in where your cards haven't all had contactless for at least five years?
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it's practically impossible to find a place here that accepts credit/debit and doesn't have a contactless reader. every card issued by anyone has had an nfc chip since like 2012
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infernal machines posted:what 3rd world hellhole do y'all live in where your cards haven't all had contactless for at least five years? America. Chips are new to us.
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