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DariusLikewise posted:The Lions rushing ineptitude at this point seems like more of a scheme or offensive line issue than a skill player issue. The tell is that Riley Reiff and Larry Warford left for other teams and immediately started playing better. But yeah, no top-half running game since Barry retired. The Curse is real.
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Shangri-Law School posted:The tell is that Riley Reiff and Larry Warford left for other teams and immediately started playing better. Ron Prince should be #1 on the chopping block this offseason without question (assuming they don't just clean house)
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 18:55 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Everyone says if Jake Locker had come out the year before he would have been a top three pick or so, but I really wonder how he would have holed up at the combine. “Looks like it’s the other team’s, but hard to say for sure.”
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 20:28 |
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Josh Allen is going to get multiple people fired in the NFL
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 20:32 |
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Benne posted:Josh Allen is going to get multiple people fired in the NFL McShay’s first mock has the Broncos taking him at 5 so... Ragnarok the Red fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Ragnarok the Red posted:McShay’s first mock has the Broncos taking him at 5 Oh god please
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:14 |
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a neat cape posted:Oh god please I think someone looked up McShay's record at predicting quarterbacks and it was pretty....questionable. Not that anyone is actually good at it of course. But the only specific thing I remember is he had Gabbert over Newton in that draft which is a not good specific prediction to remember.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:17 |
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Here's McShay's mock:quote:1. Cleveland Browns
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:26 |
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So the Jets have a desperate need for a QB, there's a good one still on the board, and they pass on him for the sixth or so try at a good DE? That's stupid, that's loving dumb as hell, and that's exactly what the Jets will do God dammit.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:41 |
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Does Lamar Jackson not exist in the mcshay universe?
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:44 |
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Metapod posted:Does Lamar Jackson not exist in the mcshay universe? I'm seeing him in a lot of day 2 mocks. Also, seeing a lot of your typical, coded scouts' takes on his ability to play the position.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:59 |
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Yeah what's the deal there with no Lamar Jackson? Is he not actually good? Is McShay dumb? I don't watch college football but I've been hearing people talk about Lamar Jackson for two years and thought he was well thought of.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:00 |
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Jackson is one of those guys I’d love to see my team take a chance on because, while I don’t know for sure that he can transition to the NFL, he will be spectacular if he can. He’s just got so much physical ability.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:04 |
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There's a decent chance Darnold and Rosen stay in school to avoid the Browns.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:06 |
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wandler20 posted:Here's McShay's mock: Epi Lepi posted:Yeah what's the deal there with no Lamar Jackson?
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:06 |
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Bill Polian thinks Lamar Jackson should convert to WR so I'm perfectly content taking him as a QB in the top 10.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:07 |
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Cash Monet posted:There's a decent chance Darnold and Rosen stay in school to avoid the Browns. Darnold maybe. Rosen hates school and wants out
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:09 |
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cardinals need to draft a drat o line coach and a s&c one in the second round. we've had so many failed picks over the years and now everyone's hurt
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:10 |
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Epi Lepi posted:Yeah what's the deal there with no Lamar Jackson? This is just my take and not what McShay or any actual scouts think. In my mind the biggest knock on him is he's a Petrino quarterback, and that hasn't translated well in the past. His completion percentage is probably also lower than you'd like but he's hyper aggressive so that goes into that a little bit. You also worry some about him running at the next level, he's amazing at it but he's built like a beanpole. And since he's so damned good at it he's going to have that tendency to take off too often like Vick did early on, which you can easily imagine ends up with with him getting hurt. But goddamn, if you imagine a world he hits and everything works out he would be utterly ridiculous. e: I'd draft him 100 times out of 100 over Josh Allen whatever the case.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:12 |
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Lamar Jackson needs to bulk up
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 22:33 |
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wandler20 posted:Here's McShay's mock: Please not another DE from Clemson for Tampa. Two of them were complete busts and the other one died (after he was traded) Joey Freshwater fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Dec 13, 2017 |
# ? Dec 13, 2017 23:06 |
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked I thought he was good enough to warrant a top pick in the draft, and I thought 1 year under Jim Fisher wasn't enough to close the book on him.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 23:10 |
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Calvin Ridley seems really small to be the #1 WR in the draft. He's fast as hell but not to a game breaking degree.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 23:23 |
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Epi Lepi posted:Is McShay dumb? Jevan Snead went undrafted.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 23:46 |
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Godzilla07 posted:
I mean, yeah I think McShay is dumb, but that QB ranking might be technically correct. 2010 was a poo poo show for QB's. It's not like there was some stud who turned out to be better than Bradford. And everybody after him has been various piles of poop.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 23:50 |
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Baker Mayfield to the Chargers huh
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 00:17 |
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I don’t watch much college ball but why isn’t Mayfield projected higher? His height?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 04:36 |
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sponges posted:I don’t watch much college ball but why isn’t Mayfield projected higher? His height? I think it's mostly personality/maturity. He's Manziel-esque in that manner.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 04:46 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Ron Prince should be #1 on the chopping block this offseason without question (assuming they don't just clean house) WAIT, THAT RON PRINCE? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-05wPlQQ4
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 04:47 |
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sponges posted:I don’t watch much college ball but why isn’t Mayfield projected higher? His height? You remember how Dede Westbrook and Joe Mixon have histories of being shitheads? Well they rubbed off on Baker a bit. He hasn't gone lady beating yet but has an arrest record. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/19/oklahoma-qb-baker-mayfield-pleads-guilty-to-three-charges-from-feb-25-arrest/ https://twitter.com/SInow/status/932022600934535169 Being fair he was getting cheap shotted to poo poo that game.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 05:05 |
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sponges posted:I don’t watch much college ball but why isn’t Mayfield projected higher? His height? he's small lol the people acting like getting drunk and running from the cops is anything like manziel or mixon
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 05:29 |
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If the Ravens draft Christian Kirk I refuse to be held accountable for any of my actions that follow.. Another fast WR with iffy hands is a bridge too far.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 05:42 |
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Metapod posted:he's small lol the people acting like getting drunk and running from the cops is anything like manziel or mixon It’s quite a lot like Manziel in college. The assault accusations came much later, in college the knock was just that he was drunk and irresponsible.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:06 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s quite a lot like Manziel in college. The assault accusations came much later, in college the knock was just that he was drunk and irresponsible. Manziel had a massive reputation as a party animal with constant reports of him doing stupid poo poo off the field. Baker has had one such incident.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:08 |
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Manziel had a massive reputation as a party animal with constant reports of him doing stupid poo poo off the field. Baker has had one such incident. My point was that getting drunk and running from the cops was very much in line with what Manziel might have done (though it’s worse than anything he actually did). Neither dude was comparable to Mixon coming out of college.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:11 |
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I don't think the situations are comparable. Mayfield may be a dumb party animal, but by all accounts he takes the game seriously and works hard to improve himself on the field. There are reasons to believe he'll mellow with age and maturity. Meanwhile, Manziel had all the off-field drama and also clearly didn't care about football, never making an effort to fix his bad habits and burning a thousand bridges on his way out of the NFL.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:18 |
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:I mean, yeah I think McShay is dumb, but that QB ranking might be technically correct. 2010 was a poo poo show for QB's. It's not like there was some stud who turned out to be better than Bradford. And everybody after him has been various piles of poop. Is Tebow the only playoff starting and winning QB on that list? LOL Joe Webb is the only QB drafted in 2010 that has a win last week. Elephanthead fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Dec 15, 2017 |
# ? Dec 15, 2017 19:20 |
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I think Bradford might have been a decentish starter somewhere if his knees weren't made of glass.
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# ? Dec 15, 2017 19:24 |
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Benne posted:Meanwhile, Manziel had all the off-field drama and also clearly didn't care about football, never making an effort to fix his bad habits and burning a thousand bridges on his way out of the NFL. Manziel if he's smart will go to the CFL. He'd be awesome and the canucks wouldn't even care if went partying. The women probably don't look too bad up there either
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# ? Dec 15, 2017 22:47 |
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pasaluki posted:Manziel if he's smart will go to the CFL. He'd be awesome and the canucks wouldn't even care if went partying. The women probably don't look too bad up there either He's been trying to come up here since earlier in the year. The Commissioner of the CFL has said he won't allow Manziel in the league if he keeps being an rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Dec 15, 2017 23:41 |