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D_Smart posted:As I posted on Twitter, it's Zenimax v Oculus bad. A firm like Skadden would never get involved in small potatoes. Ok this is what we need to know. I'm not a lawyer but if it is a fairly credible firm then it probably isn't a frivolous suit and is legit. Get your popcorn ready. Derek: Christmas came early for you?
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MinorInconvenience posted:They named good ol' Ortwin in the complaint for one reason--disqualification. Not to mention that Ortwin has spent years weaving tons of legal "gotchas" throughout all those shell companies - I bet CIG was counting on any incoming lawsuits having the inherent disadvantage of having to face Ortwin on his own turf, where they would be deftly outmaneuvered. If he can't represent CIG, then some other lawyer is going to have to get caught up with the thread.
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Someone post that picture of Chris smiling like an idiot.
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Scruffpuff posted:It would be the ultimate justice if CIG's own braggadocio, all in service of more pledges, is exactly the thing that sinks them. Unfortunately I think if the court doesn't toss this suit it will never go to any trial. They'll settle so they don't have to disclose anything. That mean financials, tracker everything. Because we know that once stuff goes to trial: EVERYTHING comes out. So that is Sandi spending, all of management waste spending. Firings, old employees, HR, everything comes out.
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loving lol Crobber is feverishly drafting a multi-page rebuttal post right now. And lol at moma and his attempt at fancy lawyrin' language, ya loving clown. HERETO AND INSOFAR AND INSOMUCH *frantically attempts to offload thousands of dollars of worthless jpeg spaceships* It's going to be really interesting to find out just how much and how badly CIG hosed itself with bad decisions. Looking forward to finding out how much bullshit went into that funding chart too. How's traffic on the refund sub?
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Hav posted:Amicus curiae would leave me in stitches for weeks. Unlikely, though. FYI, when I looked into this a while back, it's considered bad form to act as a legal counsel for a company you helped found or are a partner to. Basically, it's because you are a part of any legal proceedings involving that company. I'm no expert in this area, but could anyone else speak to this issue of acting as a lawyer for a company you are personally responsible for? For instance: MinorInconvenience posted:They named good ol' Ortwin in the complaint for one reason--disqualification. XK fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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https://www.forbes.com/2009/01/23/skadden-merger-takeover-business-cx_df_0123skadden.html#719ade507f09quote:Skadden. The name, terse and uncompromising, symbolizes the most rarefied levels of corporate law, where clients throw platoons of attorneys at a problem and barely blink at the resulting $50,000-an-hour bills.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:this is a far cry from an ele *golf clap*
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thatguy posted:Someone post that picture of Chris smiling like an idiot.
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MinorInconvenience posted:They named good ol' Ortwin in the complaint for one reason--disqualification. lol
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News hit the r/starcitizen discord. Some highlightsquote:Lightning - Today at 2:23 PM quote:Fallen Angel ★ Takao - Today at 2:25 PM quote:Verolish - Today at 2:26 PM quote:count zerØstatula - Today at 2:27 PM quote:Verolish - Today at 2:28 PM quote:Star Immigrant - Today at 2:29 PM quote:Verolish - Today at 2:29 PM quote:MuhKoInc - Today at 2:29 PM quote:MuhKoInc - Today at 2:30 PM quote:Verolish - Today at 2:30 PM quote:MuhKoInc - Today at 2:32 PM quote:The Canadian - Today at 2:33 PM quote:The Canadian - Today at 2:33 PM quote:Grag (definitely not Kuro) - Today at 2:35 PM quote:The Canadian - Today at 2:35 PM quote:Lightning - Today at 2:37 PM quote:Verolish - Today at 2:38 PM quote:count zerØstatula - Today at 2:39 PM quote:BigSanta™ 🎅 UEE Citizen #40468 - Today at 2:41 PM quote:Scratcher - Today at 2:41 PM quote:Scratcher - Today at 2:42 PM that Verolish guy in particular is going loving hard. Just angry as gently caress mental gymnastics routines. Backers haven't decided how they want to spin this yet. They are furiously bouncing between CryTek just wants Money! StarEngine isn't CryEngine! Lumberyard isn't CryEngine! StarEngine both is and is not Lumberyard which is not CryEngine! They can just throw logos in and be done with it! Just starve Crytek out, they will run out of money to sue! Amazon will save the day! VictorianQueerLit fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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And it's a drat shame, but I agree with others who have pointed out that this lawsuit is GREAT for Chris Roberts. He can use it as an excuse to close up shop and claim that he didn't fail as a developer; instead, big bad CryTek killed his dream because they were greedy. It's the perfect cover for his ego--letting him walk away without accepting blame for promising to make an impossible game.
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Bayonnefrog posted:Unfortunately I think if the court doesn't toss this suit it will never go to any trial. They'll settle so they don't have to disclose anything. You think they have money for settlements?
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Did they think that "switching" to LY was going to relieve them of their obligations to CryTek?
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Nearly a year ago today they put out a presser on their switch to Lumberyard. It came out on like December 23rd, and I remember thinking how insane it was that anyone would post news on the week of Christmas, especially news of an engine switch I think this lawsuit is going to make a lot of strange moves of the last few years make sense, or at least give context for them
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I wonder if this week’s Burndown will add an Injunction from Crytek as a new blocker preventing release.
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XK posted:I'm no expert in this area, but could anyone else speak to this issue of acting as a lawyer for a company you are personally responsible for? It is indeed considered poor form, in a "a lawyer who acts for himself has a fool for a client" sense, because a lawyer is supposed to give objective advice which is harder to do when the company is your baby. In the UK there's a specific provision allowing it; in the US it's on a state by state basis. But nowhere actually bans it, to my knowledge, just recommends against it.
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Kramjacks posted:Can't wait to read the transcript of Chris testifying, hopefully they include descriptions of his wild hand waving. The courtroom sketch will be an abstract smear.
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ManofManyAliases posted:What CryTek alleges and what the facts are could very well be two different worlds here. CryTek is alleging breach of contract, insomuch that infringement on IP is a consequence hereto. CryTek also had to make its engineers available for corroboration, which might have been hard to do with all of the financial troubles they've encumbered: 
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TheAgent posted:oh I see so its acutally CIG who is suing crytek Hey, don't laugh. Remember what he said about the Streetroller refunds. And pretty much everything else? Good times 
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Over 900 pages of this thread I've just skipped. Did I just miss the ELE?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru3zwjVMP3A&t=50s New one. 
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MinorInconvenience posted:And it's a drat shame, but I agree with others who have pointed out that this lawsuit is GREAT for Chris Roberts. He can use it as an excuse to close up shop and claim that he didn't fail as a developer; instead, big bad CryTek killed his dream because they were greedy. It's the perfect cover for his ego--letting him walk away without accepting blame for promising to make an impossible game. Chris Roberts doesn't know what's about to hit him and will have no platform for excuses at the end of it.
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VictorianQueerLit posted:Yeah I know nothing about legal matters but seeing about 40 different clauses of the GLA being breached is a pretty clear indication to even a layman of the scope of this. I don't think doing a "10 for the Chairman" video is going to fix this one. BUGSMASHERS lolololol
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TheAgent posted:It doesn't matter. According to CryTek, CryTek owns any single improvement, code change or feature CIG added to the engine since 2012. That means CryTek owns Star Citizen and SQ42, and, in their lawsuit, are not only asking for damages but the entire game to stop production, permanently. Yes. That's correct. They own any technical improvements to the engine, but nothing that pertains to "features & methodologies" (i.e. game play features) or the two IPs. ----------------
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Loxbourne posted:But nowhere actually bans it, to my knowledge, just recommends against it. Opposing counsel can move on it and the Judge would like agree, but we're a ways off that stuff. mrchinchin25 posted:Over 900 pages of this thread I've just skipped. Did I just miss the ELE? https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG Just getting warmed up.
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