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Dec 13, 2017 10:29
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Guess I'm the only one that thought the animated TDKR was really good. Glad to see MoS getting some support around here.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:52
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The Dark Knight Returns: the cartoon, is a really good piece of animation. Judging it by the comic is, obviously, stupid as hell. Not coincidentally it released just the year before Snyder's Man of Steel...
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Dec 13, 2017 13:57
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:My fave example of this is in Avengers, when everyone is given a DHS folder that says “surprise! Aliens exist and here’s a bunch of footage of Thor, the Marvel version of Superman who is literally a god. BTW it turns out that Old Norse was the correct religion all along.” No one changing their mind in the face of evidence sounds about right for America, actually.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:58
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RBA Starblade posted:No one changing their mind in the face of evidence sounds about right for America, actually. That's what the Avengers movies present.
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Dec 13, 2017 14:03
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Post-World War II history is a lie concocted by Nazi illuminati. The movie ends in deflationary and frankly ludicrous "blow up 3 sky-ships and all the Nazis leave the government! Yay!" videogame territory. It's moronic. No one cares, they're too busy analyzing the 17 ways that Superman's eyeline indicates he doesn't care about killing.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:39
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It’s one moment of Whedon having a good stroke but still loving it up for a quip. Captain America sees Gods, Man has made techno armor capable of putting him on even footing fighting a God and Man’s physical ID made manifest due to scientific research and cosmic happenstance leads to Hulk smashing a God and you have Cap quip “There’s only one God ma’am and he doesn’t dress like that.” That’s the sum of such profound finding.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:33
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"So Cap, how did meeting God feel?" "...itchy"
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Dec 13, 2017 18:36
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The movie ends in deflationary and frankly ludicrous "blow up 3 sky-ships and all the Nazis leave the government! Yay!" videogame territory. It's moronic. No one cares, they're too busy analyzing the 17 ways that Superman's eyeline indicates he doesn't care about killing. I hated this because at the end they do make a pretty bold move in that they have Captain America perform 9/11 on the setting's equivalent of the NSA headquarters. Like to their credit by MCU standards it's a pretty game changing ending, they just didn't actually change the game in any of the other movies. The worst was how then on top of that Tony almost destroys all life on earth by creating Ultron/etc. out of his paranoia and love of high tech military stuff and so he gets like this massive warehouse in upstate NY that the Avengers can use as their HQ and Nick Fury is just sort of flying around on a helicarrier like no big SHIELD is gone but back and I'm not part of it but the governments of the world are cool with my having access to this.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:46
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Well it's 9/11 on a mostly empty building of government spooks fighting an internal coup but yeah I get what you're saying.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:48
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Well it's 9/11 on a mostly empty building of government spooks fighting an internal coup but yeah I get what you're saying. I, for one, am appreciative of Marvel's attempt to reclaim kamikaze attacks for the white man.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:51
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/940948334021312512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw In the dream they took me to light. A beautiful lie.
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Dec 13, 2017 19:41
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DCEU movies have consequences, one consequence is that nobody likes them and Justice League is an incredible disaster creatively and commercially
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Dec 13, 2017 21:32
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Fair
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Dec 13, 2017 21:37
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Neo Rasa posted:I hated this because at the end they do make a pretty bold move in that they have Captain America perform 9/11 on the setting's equivalent of the NSA headquarters. Like to their credit by MCU standards it's a pretty game changing ending, they just didn't actually change the game in any of the other movies. The worst was how then on top of that Tony almost destroys all life on earth by creating Ultron/etc. out of his paranoia and love of high tech military stuff and so he gets like this massive warehouse in upstate NY that the Avengers can use as their HQ and Nick Fury is just sort of flying around on a helicarrier like no big SHIELD is gone but back and I'm not part of it but the governments of the world are cool with my having access to this. I can't think of any movie series that has profound continuity between movies. Even Ridley Scott has spent the twilight years boring down on his movies enough that continuity is really just a profound joke. You can only take these movies on their own really.
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Dec 13, 2017 21:57
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Shageletic posted:I can't think of any movie series that has profound continuity between movies. I can think of several that constantly advertise themselves on this premise. They all start with 
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Dec 13, 2017 22:05
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McSpanky posted:I can think of several that constantly advertise themselves on this premise. They all start with  Advertising is a lie BttF had neat continuity
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Dec 13, 2017 22:08
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More like BttF had continuity ERRORS, AM I RIGHT? Don't think I don't see your sleeve button going from unclasped to clasped between takes, McFly! What is this horse poo poo?
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Dec 13, 2017 22:13
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got any sevens posted:
Well duh, but Marvel is egregiously disingenuous about it in a way that's only possible when the production does in fact meticulously track everything, in order to know what to keep, what to ignore and when to do so for maximum desired effect. Only a historian can be an effective revisionist.
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Dec 13, 2017 22:24
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BiggerBoat posted:Guess I'm the only one that thought the animated TDKR was really good. Glad to see MoS getting some support around here. The TDKR cartoon is basically BVS but actually good, so of course it is hated here.
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Dec 13, 2017 22:44
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dont even fink about it posted:The TDKR cartoon is basically BVS but actually good, so of course it is hated here.
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Dec 13, 2017 22:51
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Other than "I believe you", does BvS Batman ever quote any other lines from Dark Knight Returns? I'm curious because he definitely has the Miller aesthetic and fights Superman but it's in a very different context, IMO.
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Dec 13, 2017 23:00
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Other than "I believe you", does BvS Batman ever quote any other lines from Dark Knight Returns? I'm curious because he definitely has the Miller aesthetic and fights Superman but it's in a very different context, IMO. the "my parents taught me a different lesson.... dying for no reason at all" line is in DKR
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Dec 13, 2017 23:31
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DC kinda shot themselves in the foot with those DKR and Year One adaptations and now they're having trouble selling the graphics novels because people just watch the movies instead. Who knew being too accurate to the source material could have such adverse effects? (Weller as Batman is fantastic casting.)
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Dec 13, 2017 23:35
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the Christopher Drake DKR soundtrack is pretty good.
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Dec 13, 2017 23:41
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the main theme is on my workout playlist plus a bunch of hans zimmer and Yuki Kajiura stuff
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Dec 13, 2017 23:55
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McSpanky posted:I can think of several that constantly advertise themselves on this premise. They all start with I really liked the old school comic title, not the new movie-verse one.
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Dec 14, 2017 00:01
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Martman posted:What was good about it? Why would someone ever watch it instead of reading the comic? That's a pretty stupid question I think. "Hey, they're making this movie from a comic I like" seems like a good reason. Why would I want to see Watchmen, 300 or Sin City when there's already a comic? Also, the fact that the comic is like 30 years old and maybe a lot of people haven't read it so there's an entire generation of a potential new audience. I thought the animation and the acting were terrific. Plus I still love the comic. I'd enjoy and Astro City or Kindom Come animated film. Unsure why that's a weird thing to desire seeing. what an odd post.
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Dec 14, 2017 00:55
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Detective No. 27 posted:DC kinda shot themselves in the foot with those DKR and Year One adaptations and now they're having trouble selling the graphics novels because people just watch the movies instead. Who knew being too accurate to the source material could have such adverse effects? did they really though? either way dc's getting money out of you like, they're probably having trouble selling the graphic novels because they're graphic novels
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Dec 14, 2017 01:22
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Well they definitely want you hook you in to buy the monthly comics. It's quite the gateway drug. They do those movie/graphic novel combos though. Dunno how much those help them.
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Dec 14, 2017 01:24
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from a business sense it's hard for me to picture the actual funnybooks as anything beyond a testbed for what new characters/arcs/etc could show up 5 years from now in movies, games, and tv shows
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Dec 14, 2017 01:37
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Davros1 posted:Not according to the DC threads, if one mentions they didn't like certain portrayals in Snyder's films. Pages back, but just wanted to say the difference is that Snyder's films are the correct interpretation of Superman, and the "not my Superman" claims are ironic in not understanding their "favorite" character. Raimi spidermans shoves aside character attributes to stream line the believability of a man being able to shot web. And marvel smoothed over others to fit him onto their conveyor belt.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:06
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bushisms.txt posted:Pages back, but just wanted to say the difference is that Snyder's films are the correct interpretation of Superman, and the "not my Superman" claims are ironic in not understanding their "favorite" character. Raimi spidermans shoves aside character attributes to stream line the believability of a man being able to shot web. And marvel smoothed over others to fit him onto their conveyor belt. Another thing is Reeve's Superman was confident, self assured and more complete a person. His entire demeanor had a confident "I got this handled and am in complete control of the situation." vibe which relaxed people. His Superman was in a world soon after the space age and around the Silver Age Superman. Cavill's Superman is in a different world with modern convention thinking where he's going to be raised up and brought down based on the whims of how the mob feels or projects themselves onto him like a lot of modern celebrities or Christ figure. Snyder's Superman is a true Clark Kent interpretation, a good man doing his best to deal and bring the world forward with him on his shoulders but he fails to live up to what people want. So he's imperfect because of that. He can fail, he's not in control of the situation, he's inexperienced and he's facing challenges like Zod and participating in the complete destruction and extinction of his world and species. Superman 2 didn't exactly deal with that complexity as it was a bit more black and white. Hence "Not my Superman!" because he isn't the ideal in someone's head that they can rest everything on. That's also what his Father feared, when would he be ready to go out into the world and be mature enough to deal with it. Instead he toughs it through doing his best but his best is not good enough for some.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:32
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BiggerBoat posted:That's a pretty stupid question I think.
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Dec 14, 2017 02:54
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Gatts posted:Another thing is Reeve's Superman was confident, self assured and more complete a person. His entire demeanor had a confident "I got this handled and am in complete control of the situation." vibe which relaxed people. His Superman was in a world soon after the space age and around the Silver Age Superman. What's funny is, Reeve's Superman is not that dissimilar to Synder's take right up until he went into the Fortress of Solitude for like, a year and came out THE SUPERMAN
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Dec 14, 2017 03:22
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Dec 14, 2017 03:24
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you'd better put me on whatever weird tape trading listserv you're using to distribute this
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Dec 14, 2017 03:27
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Could you splice in a little extra kimmel in there? They delete his scenes in the theatrical cut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y8iRvQdSGA
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Dec 14, 2017 03:30
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I love this moment so much. It's beautiful in motion. Lex is the best part of the movie. Mechafunkzilla posted:you'd better put me on whatever weird tape trading listserv you're using to distribute this Same Can we talk about how Lex mirrors Jorl-el's theft of the codex from MoS during his initial visit to the ship, even down to the dialogue? These nerds don't deserve Snyder. bushisms.txt fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 03:31
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Some of those shots remind me of a 50s type sci fi movie.
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Dec 14, 2017 03:47
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