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Natural 20 posted:Okay, I want to watch New Japan because the streaming pile of constant poo poo that is WWE is making me sad. Basically all of their big events for the past 5 or so years are worth watching, but if you're getting hyped for this year's Wrestle Kingdom maybe start with last year's (11) and hit all the big ones since then. Often the undercard isn't too exciting so you can skip to the title matches in the second half. Specifically I'd recommend: WK11 New Beginning In Sapporo (last three matches) New Beginning in Osaka (last four matches) Sakura Genesis (last three matches) Wrestling Dontaku (Omega/Ishii) Best of Super Junior Finals (Kushida/Ospreay) Dominion (last four matches) G1 Special in USA Night 1 (top three matches) G1 Special in USA Night 2 (Omega/Ishii, Bucks/RPG Vice) G1 Climax Tournament (too many to list, but Okada/Omega was great again) G1 Climax Final (Omega/Naito, Bucks/Taguchi Japan) Destruction in Hiroshima (Tanahashi/ZSJ) Destruction in Kobe (Omega/Juice) King of Pro Wrestling (Roppongi 3K/Taguchi Japan, last three matches) Power Struggle (last three matches) Once you get a feel for who you like, you'll have a better idea of what to skip and what to watch. Okada, Omega, Naito, Tanahashi, Ishii, Kushida, and Hiromu are some of my faves.
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There's a youtube channel called Rasslin' Rantin' that has a series explaining New Japan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6tuEOOMCv0 It's pretty good, and it's a pretty quick way to get an idea of how the company presents itself and how it's different from the WWE.
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Takuan posted:There's a youtube channel called Rasslin' Rantin' that has a series explaining New Japan. A channel run by a guy named Showbuckle has some good NJPW stuff, too.
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Showbuckle's videos are great too, though not as introductory-level as Rasslin' Rantin'. Though his video on Tetsuya Naito is a great way to get an understanding of the history and significance of this year's Wrestle Kingdom main event. https://youtu.be/VZgZEgCkrs0 Takuan fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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Dec 13, 2017 18:17
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Takuan posted:Showbuckle's videos are great too, though not as introductory-level as Rasslin' Rantin'. Yeah, it's by far the video I learned the most from. The Tanahashi vs Okada one is great, too though.
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Dec 13, 2017 18:28
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Since they talked about it on WOR I caught up with the Okada/Slex match in MCW which was a fun watch, the match is pretty impressive for what it is and it's fun to see the crowds reaction to Okada: https://njpwworld.com/p/s_archive_71_1_01
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Natural 20 posted:Okay, I want to watch New Japan because the streaming pile of constant poo poo that is WWE is making me sad. If you just want to know what to watch to be properly prepared for Wrestle Kingdom 12: Jr Tag Title, RP3K -c- vs. The Young Bucks: G1 Finals, Young Bucks-c- vs Taguchi Japan (Ryusuke Taguchi and Ricochet); King of Pro Wrestling, Taguchi Japan -c- vs. Roppongi 3K (SHO and YOH); Power Struggle, Super Jr. Tag Final - Taguchi Japan "Super 69" (Taguchi/ACH) vs RP3K Jr. Heavyweight Title, Marty Scurll -c- vs. Will Ospreay vs. KUSHIDA vs Hiromu Takahashi: Invasion Attack 2016, KUSHIDA -c- vs Ospreay; WK11, KUSHIDA -c- vs. Takahashi; Sakura Genesis 2017, Takahashi -c- vs. KUSHIDA; Best of The Super Jr. Finals, KUSHIDA vs. Will Ospreay; DOMINION from Osaka-jo Hall 6.11, Takahashi -c- vs. KUSHIDA; King of Pro Wrestling, KUSHIDA -c- vs. Ospreay; Power Struggle, Ospreay -c- vs. Scurll NEVER Openweight Title, Title vs. Hair, Minoru Suzuki -c- vs. Hirooki Goto: WK11, Katsuyori Shibata-c- vs. Goto; Road to Wrestling Dontaku 4/27, Goto-c- vs. Suzuki; DOMINION from Osaka-jo Hall 6.11, Suzuki-c- vs. Goto; World Tag League Finals, Goto/Ishii/Yano/YOSHI-HASHI vs. Suzuki, Killer Elite Squad, El Desperado Heavy Tag Title, Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. and Lance Archer)-c- vs. SANADA and EVIL: Destruction in Kobe 2017, KES vs. War Machine-c- vs. Guerillas of Destiny (Tama Tonga and Tanga Loa); World Tag League Final, GOD vs. SANADA and EVIL Intercontinental Title, Hiroshi Tanahashi-c- vs. "Switchblade" Jay White: Power Struggle 2017, Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kota Ibushi US Heavyweight Title, Alpha vs Omega - "The Cleaner" Kenny Omega vs. Chris Jericho: G1 Special in USA Night 2, US Title Finals - Kenny Omega vs. Tomohiro Ishii; Destruction in Kobe, Kenny Omega-c- vs. Juice Robinson; Power Struggle, Kenny Omega-c- vs. Beretta; World Tag League Finals, The Elite (Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks) vs. Roppongi 3K (SHO, YOH, and their "director" Rocky Romero) IWGP World Heavyweight Title, "The Rainmaker" Kazuchika Okada-c- vs. Testuya Naito: These I need to break down into literal individual lists. Naito: "The Fall and Rise of Tetsuya Naito" by Showbuckle on Youtube Wrestle Kingdom 8, challenging Okada for IWGP title Wrestle Kingdom 8, Shinsuke Nakamura defending against Tanahashi for IC Title Dominion 7.15 (2015), w/ Tomoaki Honma vs. Yujiro Takahashi and Bad Luck Fale New Japan Cup 2016 Invasion Attack, challenging Okada for IWGP title Dominion 6.19, defending against Okada for IWGP title G1 Climax 26 B Block Finals, vs. Omega Destruction in Kobe 2016, challenging Michael Elgin for IC title Wrestle Kingdom 11, defending against Hiroshi Tanahashi for IC title Wrestling Toyonokuni 2017, defending against Juice Robinson for IC title Dominion 6.11, defending against Tanahashi for IC title G1 A Block Finals, vs. Tanahashi G1 Climax Finals, vs. Omega King of Pro-Wrestling, vs Tomohiro Ishii for Guaranteed IWGP Title Shot At Wrestle Kingdom Okada: King of Pro-Wrestling 2016, defending against Naomichi Marufuji for IWGP Title Wrestle Kingdom 11, defending against Omega for IWGP Title The New Beginning in Sapporo, defending against Suzuki for IWGP Title NJPW 45th Anniversary, defending against Tiger Mask W for IWGP Title Sakura Genesis, defending against Shibata for IWGP Title Wrestling Dontaku 2017, defending against Bad Luck Fale for IWGP Title Dominion 6.11, defending against Omega for IWGP Title G1 Special in USA, defending against Cody for IWGP Title G1 Climax 8.5, vs. EVIL G1 Climax 8.8, vs. Suzuki G1 B Block Finals, vs. Omega King of Pro-Wrestling, defending against EVIL for IWGP Title Beyond that, he and Naito have had a bunch of tags, usually Okada/Ospreay vs. Naito/Hiromu, through World Tag League, where many times Naito caught Okada with Destino for a win, but now Okada has found a counter for it into a Million Dollar Dream with him locking his legs around the waist to turn it into a ground submission. Going back to WK8 for Naito shows the beginning of the end of his face "Stardust Genius" persona; if you want to see him get Tranquilo, you jump forward to Dominion 2015. And yes, this is all part of one larger story of Naito flopping as the Tanahashi replacement in 2014, pulling a Rocky Maivia into The Rock sort of character shift upon returning after an excursion to Mexico and being brought into Los Ingobernables, and basically bit by bit dealing with obstacles and eventually overcoming them as well as quelling the demons of his 2014 run by skewering Tanahashi and having the run he has with the IC belt. Okada's is much more straightforward because it's "this is the highest performing year of a world champ maybe ever and boy has it been him going through the ringer". By the time you finish his defense against Shibata, you'll be wondering how he goes through five more defenses (including one that Meltzer has called the greatest match of all time - after having called the WK11 one the best of all time) PLUS the G1 schedule without really missing a beat. They've played up his neck issues for much of the year, which conveniently slides into Naito's Destino. You don't need to know anything about the New Japan Rumble besides "people with zero place elsewhere on the card and legends and Cheeseburger, pre-show battle royal", and there'll also probably be a NEVER Trios Tag title match which I'm betting will be Bad Luck Fale and GOD (winning the titles on a Road To show) doing a gauntlet match against a Taguchi Japan team, a Suzuki-gun team, and I'm betting Ishii/Toru Yano/YOSHI-HASHI from CHAOS. And maybe New Japan 3rd Generation vs. remaining Bullet Club members in an eight-man tag. The Cameo fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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MassRafTer posted:Tanahashi and Okada vs Naito and Switchblade wouldn't gently caress things up. It wouldn't other than the fact that they don't do that poo poo at all even with face factions and the first time Okada and Tanahashi team up should be on a bigger show. Which made me think about how rare it is for unaligned heels to be in NJPW and there's two in the top three matches on this show (one freelance and one main force). The last time I remember an unaligned heel in a major singles match was the gracie stuff in 2014. Jericho's not sticking around for more than maybe one or two more big matches at most. Jay White otoh I'm sure will join or form a faction on New Year's Dash. Where do you guys think he's most likely to end up? The two most likely possibilies to me seem to be: 1. "Silver Lion" BC faction after a split, especially now that Kenny's being portrayed as an outright face in the Jericho feud 2. Suzuki-gun. ZSJ's only an occasional guy which leaves the old, injury prone, and limited Takashi Iizuka as the only full time heavyweight besides MiSu in the stable
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Thauros posted:It wouldn't other than the fact that they don't do that poo poo at all even with face factions and the first time Okada and Tanahashi team up should be on a bigger show. With the way Gedo books I can't see Okada and Tanahashi teaming up in the main event of a major show as a major deal.
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MassRafTer posted:With the way Gedo books I can't see Okada and Tanahashi teaming up in the main event of a major show as a major deal. I know modern New Japan is hardly '90s All Japan, but that would still be a cool 2nd or 3rd from the top match on like a New Beginning B show especially since neither of those guys may be in the title scene
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https://twitter.com/BannerComedy/status/941039767386439680
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Yeah, he talked about it on KTT, he busted some cartilage in his rib between the tumble with the guardrail and the Codebreaker as well as messed up his neck (which was already a little screwed up) on taking the move from Chris. Seeing since it's been well over a decade since he took a bump, not a surprise
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jericho got held back by rocky and gedo and he went to karaoke with ospreay so it's just a matter of time before he gets the (CHAOS) chyron
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Does Switchblade have any faction affiliation? If not, are there any other unaffiliated heels on the current NJPW roster? I might be missing some, but as far as I can tell everyone fits into CHAOS, Taguchi Japan, LIJ, Bullet Club, Suzuki-Gun, or the face remnants of of the NJPW main force that didn't get absorbed into Taguchi Japan
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Jenny Angel posted:Does Switchblade have any faction affiliation? If not, are there any other unaffiliated heels on the current NJPW roster? I might be missing some, but as far as I can tell everyone fits into CHAOS, Taguchi Japan, LIJ, Bullet Club, Suzuki-Gun, or the face remnants of of the NJPW main force that didn't get absorbed into Taguchi Japan nope. as I was speculating I'm asssuming he gets one at New Year's Dash. the last time they had an unaligned heel was early ingobernable Naito in the main force and being a sullen dick to his partners for a couple months before LIJ began in earnest
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Dec 13, 2017 22:09
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does taguchi japan actually count as a faction now
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Tokyo Sports awards courtesy of STRIGGA: MVP: Tetsuya Naito Best Tag Team: Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa Best Bout: Okada vs Omega (1/4) Technique: Hideki Suzuki Fighting Sprit: Katsuyori Shibata Special Award: YAMATO Women's GP: Io Shirai Rookie of the year: Yuma Aoyagi
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I'm going to be disappointed with myself for hyping myself up for something that will probably never happen, but I've been thinking about the prospect of post Wrestle Kingdom being an increasingly infuriated Chris Jericho going up against Tranquilo champion Naito and I want to see it so badly.
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checksin posted:does taguchi japan actually count as a faction now it's the best one
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checksin posted:does taguchi japan actually count as a faction now They just dropped the dopest windbreaker so yes. Also, the joy of Taguchi Japan is that the only requirement to be a member is to accept amazing coaching.
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Does New Year Dash stream live NJPW World?
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St Evan Echoes posted:Does New Year Dash stream live NJPW World? iirc it was free last year so maybe?
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It does and it'll be free again
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St Evan Echoes posted:Does New Year Dash stream live NJPW World? Yes.
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nice, i have both days booked off work 
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Jerusalem posted:I'm going to be disappointed with myself for hyping myself up for something that will probably never happen, but I've been thinking about the prospect of post Wrestle Kingdom being an increasingly infuriated Chris Jericho going up against Tranquilo champion Naito and I want to see it so badly. I mean, Jericho does have an opening in the Fozzy tour that happens to fit Strong Style Evolved, and the way he's talked to Naito on Twitter does feel like a storyline...
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rare Magic card l00k posted:I mean, Jericho does have an opening in the Fozzy tour that happens to fit Strong Style Evolved, and the way he's talked to Naito on Twitter does feel like a storyline... 
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I don't want Jericho feuding with LIJ because I'm afraid of what will happen to Daryl 
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Thauros posted:Tokyo Sports awards courtesy of STRIGGA: OK with this although Naito isnt getting my MVP/Flair award.
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Can someone please tell me in north American time when WK is so i dont book the wrong day off again. Please and thank you.
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You want to reserve Thursday the fourth off. it'll start at about 2 AM Eastern time/11 PM Wednesday night on the west coast
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Suplex Liberace posted:Can someone please tell me in north American time when WK is so i dont book the wrong day off again. Please and thank you. 3:00am eastern time on the morning of thursday january 4th
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oatgan posted:3:00am eastern time on the morning of thursday january 4th Is the Rumble in the 2 am hour or will I get another hour of sleep that day as I try to watch?
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doors are at 1:30, belltime is listed as 3 but I'm guessing that's main card and not the preshow with the battle royal and whatever insane sponsored content they have this year
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I assumed as much. Time to see how well I can hack my sleep. If it wasn't for NYE this would be easier.
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Benne posted:I don't want Jericho feuding with LIJ because I'm afraid of what will happen to Daryl i want jericho to put daryl in the walls and then next time we see him he has tiny crutches
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oatgan posted:doors are at 1:30, belltime is listed as 3 but I'm guessing that's main card and not the preshow with the battle royal and whatever insane sponsored content they have this year oh yeah don't forget guys, if you bought tickets through that external outlet NJPW recommended, you have to actually pick up your tickets at gate 22 don't be me, the guy who is absolutely going to forget and try to show up at another gate with a dumb qr code on his phone
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Thauros posted:Best Bout: Okada vs Omega (1/4) I'm surprised by how much I care that they picked 1/4 and not 6/11. Glowing fingers indicate who's going over.
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