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A Wizard of Goatse posted:does this apply to everything or just people. Like, if you blow out a tire do you no longer recognize your own car, cause yours was easier to steer? I guess that's one way to solve the problem of Theseus' Ship
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Oh, thanks! I for some reason had the impression his personality remained changed, but it makes sense that he'd recover. Also, this is an even 'better' one since it legitimately raises questions of selfhood (because it's the loss of the sense of self): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard_delusion
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Joe Slowboat posted:Also, this is an even 'better' one since it legitimately raises questions of selfhood (because it's the loss of the sense of self): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard_delusion Holy poo poo: quote:The Cotard delusion also has resulted from a patient's adverse physiological response to a drug (e.g., aciclovir) and to its prodrug precursor (e.g., valaciclovir). The occurrence of Cotard delusion symptoms was associated with a high serum-concentration of 9-Carboxymethoxymethylguanine (CMMG), the principal metabolite of the drug aciclovir. As such, the patient with weak kidneys (impaired renal function) continued risking the occurrence of delusional symptoms, despite the reduction of the dose of aciclovir. Aciclovir is the main antiviral treatment for genital herpes outbreaks (and chickenpox and shingles). So this poor bastard was walking around thinking he was dead, and also probably had dong sores. That sucks.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I for one am glad that Allison has finally decided to shuck off this scorpion that she has been carrying across the river. Only now there's a scorpian driving her brain like some kind've horrifying pilot.
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That passageway was to the invisible maze, Allison's going solo now. I hope the cat's still okay 
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AriadneThread posted:am i different person every time i wake up in the morning Loss of continuity of consciousness. Maybe! Don't think about it.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:who says there's other mornings Is it still your car when you wreck it? How about after it's crushed into a steel cube? How about when it's molten down?
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Objects, and distinctions between them across time, are subjective or intersubjective inventions of those who interact with it. There's no objective point at which a car stops being a car because there's no such objective thing as a car, just a loose pattern of atoms. Subjectively, you might think of a lump of metal as your car if it was made from some atoms in a different configuration that you previously thought of as your car, or you might not, and your reasons for thinking that way will probably have a lot to do with your memories of the car and your knowledge of how it became that lump of metal. Intersubjectively, others in your community may disagree about whether it is a car and also about whether it is yours, though if they agree that it is yours then they may be inclined to grant your interpretation of its car-ness a degree of privilege above theirs.
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So what you're saying is that we should crush Clevin into a cube
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Dead Reckoning posted:Breaking a devil's mask destroys the anchor holding its consciousness and personality together, and it rapidly reverts to a chaotic mass of the hot black flame, because devils cannot maintain individuality without their masks. Even if someone manages to recover the mask and painstakingly put it back together, it isn't necessarily the same devil that comes back: see Cio vs Yab. So what you're saying is that everything will be ok as long her head/face remains intact and thus everything will be fine for Cio! 
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PMush Perfect posted:So what you're saying is that we should crush Clevin into a cube A cube is too harsh a shape for Clevin. He can only be compressed into a soft, round shape.
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Aurium posted:Is it still your car when you wreck it? It's my car until the insurance cuts me a check for totalling it.
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SoupyTwist posted:That passageway was to the invisible maze, Allison's going solo now. the cat is certainly dead
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The cat is fine, its just hanging out with the Gunwitch on her crate of teacups.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:the cat is certainly dead Not that that stops Zoss.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:the cat is certainly dead The cat came back The very next day The cat came back They thought he was a goner but The cat came back He just couldn't stay away
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Phy posted:The cat came back
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Mindblast posted:So what you're saying is that everything will be ok as long her head/face remains intact and thus everything will be fine for Cio! tbh Oscar was just shot several times point blank and suffered nothing worse than a ripped coat and a slightly grumpy attitude so yeah, Cio's probably okay.
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I'm pretty sure the RIP is for everyone else in the explody maze.
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Oscar is a BAD MAN in more than one way
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hell that old man bug dude is probably fine, just very confused right now
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:hell that old man bug dude is probably fine, just very confused right now That Old Man McCoolHat CL-11 didn't actually get to shine in some way before getting unceremoniously eviscerated is the biggest travesty in this entire comic, really. The next would be if Catmaster and Cat didn't somehow make it through this, also.
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CL-11 took out the entire maze and Cio if you think about it
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CoolHat's head was cut from his neck and he still took out goddamn near everyone. Meti would be proud.
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Rhaka posted:CoolHat's head was cut from his neck and he still took out goddamn near everyone. Meti would be
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Clevin is an old meme, passe. Let's let it die, and usher in a true hero, one we can all get behind. Supergreg.
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Allison's mind is at least 80% vaguely threatening ghosts, by volume.
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Are we about to see Zoss throw down from beyond the grave? I'd like that. I also hope that Incubus can see him too and starts freaking right the gently caress out.
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"This cycle"? Implying there have been others, perhaps?
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shirts and skins posted:"This cycle"? Implying there have been others, perhaps? Could arguably be just "The original Rulers -> Zoss -> The Current Shitlords " as a cycle of people gaining mastery over existance
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Allison is extremely "gently caress you, dad!" right now.
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shirts and skins posted:"This cycle"? Implying there have been others, perhaps? Cycles of time, every time Zaid goes back in time and becomes Zoss, the story changes slightly as he reacts to the events of the last timeline that lead him there. Each time he's hoping Allison won't fall to darkness.
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MikeJF posted:Cycles of time, every time Zaid goes back in time and becomes Zoss, the story changes slightly as he reacts to the events of the last timeline that lead him there. Each time he's hoping Allison won't fall to darkness. That would be cliche and sucky
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Rigged Death Trap posted:That would be cliche and sucky I have to agree. One of the great things about this story is that Allison really is just someone who grabbed out of her world for having some qualities Zoss liked (as he was dying) and then he shoved a key into her head. Having this in fact be part of a repeating time cycle would rob it of that kinetic sense of the universe hanging in the balance. That being said I'm pretty sure it's a cycle in the mythic sense, where each usurper is flawed and repeats the sins of their predecessors, which Zoss thought to avoid.
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It should also be kept in mind that the current Demiurge kings are not the ones who have been around forever. It's implied the keys have changed hands many times in the course of the horrible universal war. So the cycle of plucky young hero kills demiurge, takes key, becomes horrible monster over time, gets killed by plucky hero is probably old hat by now.
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Yeah, I mean Soloman still thinks he's a righteous ruler ( and TBF by what Abbadon has mentioned before his section of 111,111 worlds is probably the least messed up so he may have a point ). So he probably WAS one of those plucky heroes that took the key from some other formerly plucky hero that turned into a monster after they took the key etc etc. Also running back to the explosion scene, it pretty much blew up the entire maze itself. Abbadon mentioned possibly keeping one or two of the other demons alive after this adventure. Now, who were the only two demons NOT openly in the maze that we saw? Maybe the cat WILL come back. Or not because a near total party kill is a near-given in a mostly chaotic evil party anyway in a dungeon run.
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