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GWBBQ posted:There was plenty of argument about treason a few thousand pages ago and I want to reiterate that the first two people convicted and sentenced to death for treason (although Washington pardoned them) were a guy who beat up a tax collector and a guy who robbed a post office. And the last person convicted of treason was sentenced in 1952. The legal code has expanded since the 1790s, and it's not at all clear whether there is still a need for a catch-all term like treason anymore. e: Horse tax 
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Despera posted:Not going to get to run against pedophiles every time look at this guy, assuming there's a level of depravity the republican party won't reach
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Dec 14, 2017 07:55
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Despera posted:Not going to get to run against pedophiles every time Right. So join up with a local DNC office and help get milennials to the polls. See also: Virginia.
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Dec 14, 2017 07:57
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Baronash posted:And the last person convicted of treason was sentenced in 1952. The legal code has expanded since the 1790s, and it's not at all clear whether there is still a need for a catch-all term like treason anymore. Conspiring with a foreign nation to influence a presidential election is Treason by any standard.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:05
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Charlz Guybon posted:Conspiring with a foreign nation to influence a presidential election is Treason by any standard. There's an actual definition of treason in the Constitution. You can't have any other legal definition at all by any standard.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:07
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Trumpers at work usually have Fox blasting on the TV, but left it off all day today. 
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Dec 14, 2017 08:07
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Despera posted:Not going to get to run against pedophiles every time Let's be real here though, the odds probably aren't that slim.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:18
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So they either did it themselves or recklessly took to reporting their news before confirming their news. The real news media, meanwhile, waited to do some basic checking before running the story and immediately found the crack. And neither of these ideas will change the right wing notion that the real news media just recklessly reports their news before confirming and you can only trust sources like Gorilla Cum on Twitter? That's pretty special right there.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:21
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Charlz Guybon posted:Conspiring with a foreign nation to influence a presidential election is Treason by any standard. Not in America “Article 3 of the US Contitution posted:Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:22
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Charlz Guybon posted:Conspiring with a foreign nation to influence a presidential election is Treason by any standard. The same could be said about Robert Hanssen spying for the Soviets (and later the Russians). Instead, they pursued charges of espionage, because the laws surrounding it are much clearer than those applying to treason. I'd imagine the same line of thinking will be applied to any charges stemming from the Trump-Russia connection.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:26
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Surprised not to see this in the last few pages... "Omarosa Manigault throws tantrum, has to be escorted from White House after chief of staff fires her": http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/omarosa-manigault-newman-resign-trump-administration-article-1.3695668?cid=bitly
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Dec 14, 2017 08:26
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DeathChicken posted:I will say that some of the people I interact with in day to day life who voted for Trump (dudebros mainly. Their reasoning seemed to be "Yeah but really, gently caress Hilary") are even getting sick of Trump and just want him to shut the gently caress up and get off their TV. Wouldn't ever count on them voting Democrat, but it seems like enough that they'd just stay home entirely as far as voting goes. That's like being so bored you kick yourself in the head and then complaining about your broken nose all day.
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Despera posted:Not going to get to run against pedophiles every time Not gonna be running in Alabama everytime, either
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pokie posted:Surprised not to see this in the last few pages... Because it happened hours ago.
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highme posted:Because it happened hours ago. I checked 7 hours back. Article is 3 hours old. My bad, I guess.
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No worries, I was just explaining why nobody was talking about it. I don't really care if the same story gets posted to this thread and random parts of the day. This thread moves to fast to expect everybody to read every page so somebody may have missed it earlier and just got the news.
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dont even fink about it posted:Basically Moore lost because Republican voters stayed home, yes--but that's Trump's rating, not Moore's number in the election. It's Trump's rating among people who voted. His rating among Republican voters who actually came out was about 94%. Even if his rating among Republicans who stayed home was a bit lower, the state average is guaranteed to be higher than the exit polls indicate. Stickman fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 08:59
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Edmund Lava posted:Not in America I mean, we have sanctions against Russia. They were our “enemies” for the entire Cold War and very probably still are because of our constant adversarial stance against them. Trump cutting deals with them to swing the election in return for circumventing Congressionally mandated sanctions is very clearly “giving comfort to our enemies”. He is a traitor.
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Dec 14, 2017 09:00
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Stickman posted:It's Trump's rating among people who voted. Oh well the number is pretty much not informative of anything then. Republicans think they have the seat again in 2020, and some apparently even think Jones will vote with them sometimes, but the GOP is in such a shambles that it's foolish of them to take anything for granted.
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Dec 14, 2017 09:08
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Edmund Lava posted:Not in America How is interfereing in a presidiential election not levying war against the United States? If nuclear weapons did not render war between great powers suicidal it would be a clear casus belli.
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Stereotype posted:I mean, we have sanctions against Russia. They were our “enemies” for the entire Cold War and very probably still are because of our constant adversarial stance against them. Trump cutting deals with them to swing the election in return for circumventing Congressionally mandated sanctions is very clearly “giving comfort to our enemies”. He is a traitor. The problem being that since no one has been convicted of treason in 65 years. Prosecuting them with treason would certainly mean they are found "not guilty" and then the whole opportunity was wasted. It's like the prosecutor practically sabotaged the George Zimmerman trial by going for second degree murder.
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Dec 14, 2017 09:11
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I really don't think Trump is going to fire Mueller. He's just going to scream "fake news!" at whatever Mueller dredges up and pretend its not an issue. Unfortunately it probably won't be an immediate issue either since Congress won't do a drat thing, but its certainly going to sink him in the long run.
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dont even fink about it posted:Oh well the number is pretty much not informative of anything then. If this were a Strange or Brooks loss that assumption would... still be stupid. The fact someone like Gardner goes out and practically begs Jones to vote with them after a race against Moore is madness. Edit, forgot this: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/941159085998858241
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Dec 14, 2017 09:12
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Mustached Demon posted:There's an actual definition of treason in the Constitution. You can't have any other legal definition at all by any standard. We just need to link Erik Prince raising a mercenary army in the employ of a enemy state w/ support of Trump and we got this administration done in!
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Dec 14, 2017 09:14
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Office Pig posted:Edit, forgot this: I'm amazed how anyone can think making GBS threads on the FBI and intelligence services is a good idea.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I'm amazed how anyone can think making GBS threads on the FBI and intelligence services is a good idea. I feel making GBS threads on the intelligence services is about as smart as a Roman Emperor not paying the Praetorians when they ask for a raise.
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J. Edgar Hoover ran the FBI and its predecessor for forty‐eight years (less eight days), but Obama the cryptomuslim finally corrupted it. 
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Dec 14, 2017 09:21
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Jack2142 posted:I feel making GBS threads on the intelligence services is about as smart as a Roman Emperor not paying the Praetorians when they ask for a raise. Trump needs to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
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Dec 14, 2017 09:21
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If Trump is to go to jail, its far more likely to be for financial related crimes. This is assuming that rich people can go to jail for financial crimes....So far I've only seen them profit from it.
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As much as I would like the FBI to stage a coup during the Olympics and stab Trump 30 times, I think Trump did about all the damage he can do when he fired the Director.
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CyberPingu posted:If Trump is to go to jail, its far more likely to be for financial related crimes. It's always financial.
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Office Pig posted:If this were a Strange or Brooks loss that assumption would... still be stupid. The fact someone like Gardner goes out and practically begs Jones to vote with them after a race against Moore is madness. The best part of this is that I distinctly and clearly remember the FBI being huge trump fans during the campaign and election and in fact the loving FBI released information to hurt clinton that likely gave the last push to give trump the win. And yet here they are, insulting them in the most low down, dirty, likely personally offensive way they possibly can. Has everyone learned yet? If you gently caress with trump, you will be destroyed and poo poo on or hosed over for your troubles. No matter what you are, no matter what you're doing. Anything having to do with trump will inevitably end with you getting hosed over. How many decades of this being true does it take?
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dont even fink about it posted:As much as I would like the FBI to stage a coup during the Olympics and stab Trump 30 times, I think Trump did about all the damage he can do when he fired the Director. He'll probably help in cutting their budget a bit and then appoint supervision of secret information to a Russian asset who leaks like a walking sieve.
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Office Pig posted:If this were a Strange or Brooks loss that assumption would... still be stupid. The fact someone like Gardner goes out and practically begs Jones to vote with them after a race against Moore is madness. why is Sal from Mad Men arguing that we need to shut down the FBI??? 
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Dec 14, 2017 09:48
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DrNutt posted:why is Sal from Mad Men arguing that we need to shut down the FBI??? It always bothered me that we never got an update on that character. Sal got a raw deal. Watching Eastern Promises right now and it occurs to me the scene in which Nikolai has to bang that hooker in front of Kirill to "prove" he's not gay is probably eerily similar to how Don Jr. lost his virginity.
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Dec 14, 2017 09:58
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Roy Moore insists that he is extremely not owned. Alternatively: Roy Moore shits himself to trigger the libs.
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Dec 14, 2017 10:16
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Lightning Knight posted:Roy Moore insists that he is extremely not owned. I saw this posted in response to his video on Twitter and goddamn if it isn't worth reusing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 10:24
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The Rock is running http://www.nme.com/news/film/dwayne-rock-johnson-now-says-hes-seriously-considering-running-president-2171273
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Dec 14, 2017 10:25
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Charlz Guybon posted:The Rock is running God is dead.
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Involuntary Sparkle posted:He could join up with Dan Lirette! Or Richey Edwards.
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