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axeil posted:Yep. It's why I'm hopeful things get better now that you can more easily do controlled experiments. There are variations of this that study persuasion and compliance. The dictator can create an unfair distributioin that is acceptable by offering a completely unfair split but working it down to a lesser but still unfair split. The idea being that a sense of obligation builds within the 'approver' to reciprocate to the dictator who accepted the approver's initial decline(s) [Insert picture of white german shepherd being a good boy] Boon fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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aware of dog posted:So unless another republican steps up, the race for Ryan's seat is gonna be Randy Bryce vs an alt-right pizzagater. Speaker of the House Randy "Iron Stache" Bryce (yes, I know he wouldn't become Speaker) He must be seeing some truly heinous early numbers in his race, because otherwise he'd just step down from the Speakership.
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ReidRansom posted:Also, gently caress him, torching poo poo and then loving off to a lucrative private lobbying/think tank gig or whatever Supposedly he wants to play house wife for his kids before they get too old.
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There's a really good dog on the livestream.
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Lightning Knight posted:Hypothetically if we’re lucky, it’s held up on court charges until a Dem administration reverses it. the telecoms don't really have a say if the next dem administration is committed to it
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Lightning Knight posted:Yeah it looks like we’re seeing the worst case scenario: the Rs decide they have nothing to lose and try to just pass everything on their wishlist before they get booted out. Oh for sure. They're going to try and get the tax plan passed before anyone's read it or the CBO has a chance to score it. There's no way it passes once its read and the CBO's score is out. Also they've got to try before Alabama's new senator is sworn in.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:the telecoms don't really have a say if the next dem administration is committed to it I think making it a plank in the next Democratic Presidential candidate's platform wouldn't go amiss.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don’t think they’ll be able to tie it up in court for that long though and once it goes through the telecoms will never let it come back. In the sense that the Democratic party is lobbied trash?
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:the telecoms don't really have a say if the next dem administration is committed to it But will the next Dem administration be committed to it? We’d probably have to do some kind of mass movement to get them to remember it even existed.
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Ganson posted:Supposedly he wants to play house wife for his kids before they get too old. Republicans will really respect that.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:the telecoms don't really have a say if the next dem administration is committed to it It will really suck when none of the dem's ads show up on the internet, you can't access their websites, and all the links to vote information suddenly stop working, don't you think?
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Hold on, I'm tuning from a busy day at work. NN isn't repealed yet and everyone evacuated? Is there some poo poo going down outside of the place?
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Brony Car posted:Republicans will really respect that. Unlikely, he wants to raise his kids not diddle them.
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Maybe Paul Ryan is one of the congressmen balls deep in harassment cover ups and it will blow as soon as this tax stuff gets pooped out.
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Ramos posted:Hold on, I'm tuning from a busy day at work. NN isn't repealed yet and everyone evacuated? Is there some poo poo going down outside of the place? Someone called in a bomb threat.
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Bomb threat. Hopefully they can't finish the meeting
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Ramos posted:Hold on, I'm tuning from a busy day at work. NN isn't repealed yet and everyone evacuated? Is there some poo poo going down outside of the place? The FCC has committed to repealing it. Now begins months of litigation at the very least.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Bomb threat. Hopefully they can't finish the meeting They already did the thing that matters, unfortunately. 4chan can’t even get terrorism right.
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Lightning Knight posted:But will the next Dem administration be committed to it? corey booker has been hammering pretty hard on net neutrality and is about as far right as I expect any Dem nominee to be Dietrich posted:It will really suck when none of the dem's ads show up on the internet, you can't access their websites, and all the links to vote information suddenly stop working, don't you think?  
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NN isn't over today, per se-- there will be litigation, attempts at blocking implementation of the repeal through preliminary and permanent injunctions, attacks on the rule-making process, attempts to negate the rule based on the evidence of fraud in the comment-making and the agency's seeming willful blindness to it, etc etc etc. It might go into effect; it might not. But the fight over it doesn't end today by any means.
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haveblue posted:The FCC has committed to repealing it. Now begins months of litigation at the very least. Lightning Knight posted:They already did the thing that matters, unfortunately. Whelp, so much for that.
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If nothing else this administration has shown that the federal government can swing its dick around like a bloody club regardless of whether people want it or not, and no one beyond the most broken of ultra-CHUDS gives a flying gently caress that the telecoms have an opinion. Four senate Democrats voted to reconfirm Pai as chairman so yeah I can't really trust these rats to do anything, but that goes for just about everything. Anyway I'm glad the filth fear for their lives right now.
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INT - KM'S DEN Koalas March quietly picks up a pen and adds saving Net Neutrality to her campaign platform.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:am i late to the party? he's really losing his poo poo now that John Oliver is on christmas break, isn't he?
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The thing that I foresee happening is that telecoms will use their enormously deep pockets to actually improve things for a couple years for the shitstorm to die down (and to make people think they're better off now / erode support), then they'll start tightening the noose once everyone's tired of the debate. 
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I'm trying really hard now not to loving get angry at all the buttery males out there. Really really loving hard.
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Office Pig posted:Four senate Democrats voted to reconfirm Pai as chairman so yeah I can't really trust these rats to do anything, but that goes for just about everything. The FCC is always 3 majority party, 2 minority. Pai was appointed as a minority party chairman at the request of McConnell by Obama.
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Trivia posted:I've only taken a few econ courses in school, but have read several books based on D&D's recommendations. Krugman's The Accidental Theorist is good and even accessible to a casual audience (he cites his formal papers in the back though): https://www.amazon.com/Accidental-Theorist-Dispatches-Dismal-Science/dp/0393318877 International Trade Theory and Policy basically served as my primary textbook for my class on International Trade. It is a textbook though but it's really good at illustrating why protectionism is not usually a good idea even if you have noble intentions. Given the rise of neo-protectionism I highly recommend understanding the mechanics of comparative advantage and other trade-related elements: https://www.amazon.com/International-Trade-Theory-Policy-10th/dp/0133423670 The Black Swan is from a right-wing guy but the points he makes about economic prediction are still salient (tl;dr: prediction is very difficult and the longer the time horizon the more uncertain the prediction): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00139XTG4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 This Time It's Different is an excellent example of how important editing is. The short story is the authors of this book looked back at all economic crises to have ever occurred and concluded that most of them were due to high debt/GDP ratios. Except there was a calculation error in the Excel table they used that, when corrected, made their conclusion disappear. Arguably this book caused the Eurozone Crisis. A good cautionary tale. Still useful though for the breadth of time it covers. I don't think any other economics book out there is talking about stuff that happened in the 17th and 18th centuries. https://www.amazon.com/This-Time-Different-Centuries-Financial-ebook/dp/B004EYT932 One of my personal favorites: Too Big to Fail. If you read one book about the 2008 financial crisis, make it this one. The author goes into extreme detail explaining how the system of Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and Credit Default Swaps (CDS) worked and how we got here. He also makes (I think) a very persuasive argument for why the bailout was the only real option in the fall of 2008, which I know is controversial in places like here. https://www.amazon.com/Too-Big-Fail-Washington-FinancialSystem-ebook/dp/B003XQEVUI This isn't economics-related, but because econ is tied so heavily to Big Data, I think Nate Silver's The Signal and the Noise is a good read. It's all about the use of data in predictions and argues, the same as Taleb, that extreme caution and care should be made when making predictions off of data. https://www.amazon.com/Signal-Noise-Many-Predictions-Fail-but-ebook/dp/B007V65R54
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Koalas March posted:INT - KM'S DEN https://media.giphy.com/media/l46CD7xtJHK909cly/giphy.gif scuz fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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totally forgot about Randy Bryce being Ryan's challenger. That would loving own if he sweeps right in
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Trivia posted:I've only taken a few econ courses in school, but have read several books based on D&D's recommendations. Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea is a good one, by Mark Blyth.
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NmareBfly posted:The thing that I foresee happening is that telecoms will use their enormously deep pockets to actually improve things for a couple years for the shitstorm to die down (and to make people think they're better off now / erode support), then they'll start tightening the noose once everyone's tired of the debate. The "good" part is that since this is decided by the FCC and not a law passed by Congress, this is one of the bullshit issues that can ping pong back and forth if we get a Democrat back in the oval office.
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Is Ryan finally going back to his career as the Oscar Mayer truck driver?
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Trivia posted:I've only taken a few econ courses in school, but have read several books based on D&D's recommendations. The Honest Truth About Dishonesty by Ariely was a good read. It's about behavioral economics though, not sure if that's what you're looking for.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Are you talking about the economic calculation problem? Ah, yep! That's what it was called and it was von Mises who wrote the paper I'm thinking of which is called "Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth". At least I think that's the paper I'm thinking of. I recall the one I read having a proof for why a command/mixed economy could not be as efficient as a free-market but I'm not seeing the argument I remember seeing in my brief glance at that 1920 paper. Could've been some follow-up paper that I'm blanking on the name of. It's an interesting debate and the one (and only one) arena where I will concede the Austrian's arguments aren't completely ridiculous (just very naive). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem edit: I would also add that the Austrian insistence that the calculation problem means socialism will never work is too strong a conclusion. It is a problem (potentially), but not a fatal one. axeil fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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