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anime was right posted:i love richard wolff but man i wish someone would fuckin annotate his points because im not watching an entire hour and a half on the economy like every time he uploads one of these
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:lol nn is dead probably wont until lawsuits go through and/or ppl see dips in usage and/or isps start demanding more cash
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hope it pops the tech bubble, id love to see sv fall apart
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:hope it pops the tech bubble, id love to see sv fall apart nobody who matters will be undone by a tech bubble collapse, just a bunch of VC funded snake oil salesmen
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THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:nobody who matters will be undone by a tech bubble collapse, just everyone who needs a job to live
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oh I mean the economy will be undone, I just mean that if you're hoping the tea leaf readers at andreeson or the Chief Ballpit Officers are gonna catch poo poo for it you're insane
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https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/941660262586814467
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jesus christ WHY. Target the rich you idiots!
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probably bc it’s easier to audit poor people. also criminalization of being poor and all that
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Rated PG-34 posted:probably bc it’s easier to audit poor people. also criminalization of being poor and all that One the most important things a friend told me was that it's expensive to be poor.
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poor people don't pay the extra 29.95 for audit protection
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Lawman 0 posted:One the most important things a friend told me was that it's expensive to be poor. Yup. A rich person has the resources to create all manners of legal headaches and drag things out, and likely will even for trivial sums, like if you tell a multi-millionaire they can't write off their $5000 fountain pen. If you're the IRS and you tell a poor person they owe $5000 they can't do poo poo about it, the IRS is effectively guaranteed to get it (and/or ruin lives in the process).
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isn't the <25k/y group where someone who does all their business under the table would show up?
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Moxxis Endowment posted:jesus christ WHY. Target the rich you idiots! Realtalk: A ton of poor people commit tax fraud by married couples both claiming head of household when they live together, claiming kids on taxes they’re not entitled to, etc. The scale of tax fraud and money lost to the government is going to be greater from the rich tax cheats, but there are plenty of poor tax cheats out there too. It’s driven by desperation rather than greed, but it’s still tax fraud.
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Prav posted:isn't the <25k/y group where someone who does all their business under the table would show up? those poors must be up to something dastardly!!!
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Prav posted:isn't the <25k/y group where someone who does all their business under the table would show up? if you do all your business in pure cash
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His little fake check mark never fails to put a smile on my face. 
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Moxxis Endowment posted:jesus christ WHY. Target the rich you idiots! haha
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Old articles but the shift to target the poor for audits started under George HW Bush, and was continued harder under W. http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/16/business/irs-more-likely-to-audit-the-poor-and-not-the-rich.html http://www.economist.com/media/globalexecutive/perfectly_legal_e_02.pdf http://www.blackcommentator.com/51/51_eitc.html I have some older books from the mid-2000s in a box somewhere that goes into more depth on this. It's hard to find good articles because everything old on the web disappears into a wormhole and all the top google results are conservative sites whining about the IRS asking them for forms for their tea party group.
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its much, much easier to audit the poor
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(they should still target the rich)
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I keep pimping this book but this is what Taibbi's The Divide is all about over the last couple decades America's government has given up entirely on going after rich people because it's just too hard (and because the rich will give them directions to the money river if they're nice to the rich -- eg Obama) and instead turns the full force of the government onto the poor class war is being waged everyday in the courts and the taxrooms
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It's as if the state is an apparatus for furthering the material interests of the ruling class, or something.
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i feel like joe is being a little naive here if he thinks the current administration cares about stopping illegitimate financial transactions SKULL.GIF posted:I keep pimping this book but this is what Taibbi's The Divide is all about my favorite part: "But we can't put this white-collar criminal in prison! Have you been to prison? It's dangerous there!"
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anime was right posted:its much, much easier to audit the poor i imagine poor tax fraud is failing to declare unemployment benefits or worker's comp as income and other things that are easily flagged by a computer this is a terrible way to collect taxes. in denmark the government tax agency does everyone's taxes for them.
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There are less people in Denmark, the country has less complicated taxes, and more people are working for the government tax agency. It's terrible, but in the US that's sort of our style
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LegoPirateNinja posted:i imagine poor tax fraud is failing to declare unemployment benefits or worker's comp as income and other things that are easily flagged by a computer the irs knows like 95% of whats happening even before you submit a form. theres like no reason poor people should even need to do their taxes lol
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anime was right posted:the irs knows like 95% of whats happening even before you submit a form. theres like no reason poor people should even need to do their taxes lol Yeah I mean the reason audits even occur is that there's a huge difference between what's expected and what arrives.
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once i filled out my taxes and got a letter saying "you did it wrong, we're sending you a check with a refund twenty bucks higher" because they already know everything unless youre conducting transactions in numbered swiss accounts or through three bermudan shell companjes
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Shear Modulus posted:once i filled out my taxes and got a letter saying "you did it wrong, we're sending you a check with a refund twenty bucks higher" because they already know everything unless youre conducting transactions in numbered swiss accounts or through three bermudan shell companjes Same except I literally got a $1 check from the IRS 10 years ago because I added wrong.
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quote:“A bipartisan public is receptive to lower ‘apprentice’ or ‘intern’ wage rates for young people,” [anti-worker activist] Berman says in the memo. A lower youth wage would have the additional benefit of depressing wages across the board for lower level employees, the memo states, adding, “And a ‘youth’ wage will have a sobering ripple effect on all entry level wage rates.” "sobering" hahaha
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"Sobering" because those filthy poors won't be able to afford the hooch they waste themselves on anymore. How better to improve their virtue? :Scroogesay:
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platzapS posted:"sobering" hahaha What we're saying is that America thinks of itself as the first piece of music, but is in fact the second
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Shear Modulus posted:once i filled out my taxes and got a letter saying "you did it wrong, we're sending you a check with a refund twenty bucks higher" because they already know everything unless youre conducting transactions in numbered swiss accounts or through three bermudan shell companjes this but i usually get like a thousand extra back, somehow
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black.lion posted:There are less people in Denmark, the country has less complicated taxes, and more people are working for the government tax agency. None of this is an excuse, fyi
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black.lion posted:It's terrible, but in the US that's sort of our style 
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Moxxis Endowment posted:It's terrible, but here in Nazi Germany that's sort of our style even the literal Nazis had universal healthcare for their citizens, yeah?
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