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wandler20 posted:Wait. What you hearing? bringing him on as an OC, possibly.
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So ASU hired Herm! And part of the thing was to keep Graham's coordinators around! Turns out they're both leaving. https://twitter.com/zach_barnett/status/941687943315501056
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It is beautiful that this nepotistic payday is blowing up in their faces
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Dec 15, 2017 16:52
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Oh man ASU is gonna loving crater so hard.
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I’m sure the guy who last coached football in 2008 and spent almost his entire career in the NFL will find an innovative offensive mind on the cutting edge of modern colliege football
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Dec 15, 2017 18:36
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Chan Gailey isn't doing anything!
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Herm’s teams were boring and old fashioned even by the standards of the early 00s NFL (he gave Larry Johnson like 500 carries one year and basically ended his career), it’s gonna be hilarious if he actually gets some input. Also this has to be bullshit right? It makes no sense unless Schiano is on the way out https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/941718863019945984
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On the one hand I don't think Les Miles would be the best available choice of HC for probably any P5 program, on the other hand I'm fairly amazed that Les Miles hasn't landed a job, given that he clearly would like one.
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Thermos H Christ posted:On the one hand I don't think Les Miles would be the best available choice of HC for probably any P5 program, on the other hand I'm fairly amazed that Les Miles hasn't landed a job, given that he clearly would like one. I think he could get a mid major one if he wanted it and do well. I don’t think he’s a great fit at most of the P5 jobs that he’s gone after, and he’s pretty old.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:So https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/941723368167837696 yikes
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Dec 15, 2017 19:00
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quote:Ran the offense at Kansas
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tactlessbastard posted:That's a hell of a thing to have on your resume. This is like the minimum wage job you had at mcdonalds you don't put on your professional resume
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apparently he was the cal passing game/WRs coach in 2014 which is fine but he helped lead KU to 0-12 in 2015 and if I were him i'd be paying reporters not to use that as the lede
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MourningView posted:Herm’s teams were boring and old fashioned even by the standards of the early 00s NFL (he gave Larry Johnson like 500 carries one year and basically ended his career), it’s gonna be hilarious if he actually gets some input. With the 10th coach spot, it might. Schiano is sole DC right now, and Urban prefers having co-DCs with one on-field DC doing adjustments and one focused on playcalling and gameplan, so I actually wouldn't be completely shocked by this. He's only making $600k at Wazzu, and he's basically guaranteed a chance to run the defense once Schiano goes in likely another year if he's worried about control. He's a local guy too, so it's basically a "don't gently caress this up for 2 years, and you can get your first HC job from whoever wants to poach a Meyer assistant" offer.
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DJExile posted:This is purely speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me if Kent wanted to drop football entirely, and may have even looked at it, but I'm guessing the MAC won't let them stay as a basketball-only member of the conference. If the MAC wouldn't let UMass park its football program there I can't imagine they'd let Kent State park its everything else. And if that's the case, maybe they're not long for FBS?
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If they drop football and need a home Kent basketball might be able to get a MVC spot at this point
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Korranus posted:If the MAC wouldn't let UMass park its football program there I can't imagine they'd let Kent State park its everything else. And if that's the case, maybe they're not long for FBS? It's possible, I also wouldn't be shocked if they ultimately just folded football entirely. The MAC started pressing schools to be fully invested with sports (i.e. not just one-sport members) back when Temple joined as a football-only member. Temple football was 1,000% rear end at the time, and the MAC was pissed they didn't get their basketball program along with them. The UMass thing seemed like a "sure, why not?" temporary measure right from the get-go. Kent State seems to be at something of a crossroads. I don't blame them for wanting to focus on the arena sports since while they're lower-revenue, they're also far lower cost. I can't imagine they have any conferences as suitors if they go basketball-only, but I don't know the CBB landscape that well, so maybe someone's willing to take a flyer on them. E: Alternatively, if Kent State leaves the MAC for whichever reason, I'm not sure who the conference would replace them with. I can't imagine Marshall coming back. DJExile fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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If Kent goes to FCS or folds altogether, wouldn't the MAC be looking for a replacement immediately to stay at twelve teams? Would Youngstown St make the jump?
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skaboomizzy posted:If Kent goes to FCS or folds altogether, wouldn't the MAC be looking for a replacement immediately to stay at twelve teams? Would Youngstown St make the jump? Yeah they'd move quick to find a replacement. YSU wouldn't be a bad idea, but it's always seemed like they've been comfortable at the FCS level. E: Their stadium does seat 20,000 though, which has to be one of the larger places as FCS teams go.
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Extremely great football program New Mexico State will join the Mac East.
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skaboomizzy posted:If Kent goes to FCS or folds altogether, wouldn't the MAC be looking for a replacement immediately to stay at twelve teams? Would Youngstown St make the jump? Youngstown was near the bottom of the valley this year and last year’s playoff run aside have been decent but not great lately. Plus that’s a market they already have pretty saturated. From a quality standpoint it’d be NDSU if they wanted to pick off a FCS team but NDSU doesn’t seem like they want to move. I feel like they’d probably go after a CUSA team like WKU or maybe invite Marshall back?
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WKU is a good idea, I hadn't thought of them.
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I assume the MAC has a better TV deal money wise than CUSA now since they’re on ESPN more instead of CBS Sports Net but I guess I don’t know that for sure. You also have to play on like Tuesday and poo poo which is a pain in the rear end.
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an adult beverage posted:Oh man ASU is gonna loving crater so hard. 
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MourningView posted:I assume the MAC has a better TV deal money wise than CUSA now since they’re on ESPN more instead of CBS Sports Net but I guess I don’t know that for sure. You also have to play on like Tuesday and poo poo which is a pain in the rear end. Yeah the weeknight games are weird but they've gotten good about basically giving the whole conference their bye weeks around Halloween, then getting into the weeknight games from there, so at least it doesn't screw anyone over.
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DJExile posted:Yeah the weeknight games are weird but they've gotten good about basically giving the whole conference their bye weeks around Halloween, then getting into the weeknight games from there, so at least it doesn't screw anyone over. The MAC: Smarter than the NFL
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Kent dropped their stadium capacity from 30k to 25k about ten years ago too. That wasn't a particularly good sign.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:So For all the attention Tennessee got, I think ASU has had the worst coaching change this year. Total disaster, their recruiting is boned at this point with early signing right around the corner too
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At least tennessee has the benefit of a coach that is kind of unknown for a head coaching position but known to be a drat good position coach and recruiter. I don't know what Herm offers in the modern era of college football.
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KKKLIP ART posted:At least tennessee has the benefit of a coach that is kind of unknown for a head coaching position but known to be a drat good position coach and recruiter. I don't know what Herm offers in the modern era of college football. Nothing at all. Which is why it’s so goddamned perplexing. Sumlin at ASU made waaaaaay more sense.
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i actually had to double check that a college hired Herm loving Edwards as coach and this wasn't just the internet being all crazy again
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Stunt Rock posted:If Ole Miss wants to keep Longo they will keep him. Matt Luke’s contract doesn’t pay him tons, but it gives him a salary pool of a little over $5 million for assistants. It's been pointed out that Jedd Fisch is out of work, so he wouldn't shock me either. Longo is a weird schematic fit for the roster, and only really makes sense if he's on the way out or is desperate to come him. Having a spread guy when they had a roster built for running every down cost them 3 wins in 2015, and they can't afford that kind of rebuild from scratch again in year 3. There were lots of crazy stories today about P5 teams hiring G5 coordinators as their 10th assistant (like Grinch, and Bama hiring someone's DC), so I don't know how that throws a wrench into things. Thankfully, people don't realize yet I think that Jay Niemann is a really good DC.
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MourningView posted:I’m sure the guy who last coached football in 2008 and spent almost his entire career in the NFL will find an innovative offensive mind on the cutting edge of modern colliege football i am sorry, but you're messing with The Herminator
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oh my god they hired the architect of kansas' 0-12 offense for real
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Arizona State's AD must be running a The Producers-style scam
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hifi posted:oh my god they hired the architect of kansas' 0-12 offense for real Get ready for "lovely run, lovely run, horrifyingly lovely pass, punt" over and over again.
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Hiring Herm is weird because the job shouldn't have been open at all.
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Lol at ASU’s AD calling out Fulmer and then all this poo poo happens. You hired Herm Edwards dawg stay in your lane
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Mizzou hired McElwain's OL coach Brad Davis. Hope he can pick up where Elarbee left off.
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MourningView posted:In news literally only I care about He didn't adjust well during this season. We lost all of our O linemen from last year from either graduation or injuries, and the offense only really looked like itself against Air Force. The Oline wasn't replenished and there were no plans to replenish, from what I could tell. Watch our first half against Wyoming to see what problems we had. We also had a couple decent QBs but instead started our bad QB because he started some games last year. Almost beat Boise with the backup, then went right back to our bad QB the next week. But he was a really good coordinator the two years prior to that. Our defense is the real problem at UNM since Rocky Long was run out of town.
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