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kidkissinger posted:I seriously doubt you can remember any of the one liners from this movie that weren’t just calling back to better ones from the original trilogy. That's funny. Everything that you've just said, was wrong.
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euphronius posted:It's salt. Classic
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Dec 19, 2017 16:57
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The hux Poe phone call characterizes both characters and also makes sense within the plot of the movie.
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Dec 19, 2017 16:58
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kidkissinger posted:Classic I'm going to be using it for years. So yeah.
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euphronius posted:The hux Poe phone call characterizes both characters and also makes sense within the plot of the movie. We need a meme/image macro/emoji for Luke's line, since it is so very applicable in this thread.
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Decius posted:It seems they have scanner to find cloaked ships if they know to look and seem able to target and destroy them, so calling it cloaked seems an overstatement. I may be misremembering, but I believe that DJ explicitly gave the First Order a security code to detect the ships.
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Decius posted:We need a meme/image macro/emoji for Luke's line, since it is so very applicable in this thread. What is wrong about what I wrote there.
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Schwarzwald posted:I may be misremembering, but I believe that DJ explicitly gave the First Order a security code to detect the ships. No, he only told them about them, since he overheard the communication between Rose/Finn and Leia/Holdo, but he had nothing more, since this was the first time anyone in is group heard of the plan - they had no security codes for him to give away. Decius fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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euphronius posted:What is wrong about what I wrote there. It's not very funny (subjective of course), doesn't fit Hux' characterisation from before at all (even his complete moron one he got in the movie seems quite s a bit above the Moe Szyslak act we got here) and a "yo mamma" joke and a really bad wordplay on Hux' name is far below the Poe of TFA who showed pretty good jokes before. It sets the tone of the movie far below what we actually got (and I'm not a huge fan of the movie). It's not a good scene And even worse because it's so early on.
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Compare Huxs response to mockery to Tarkin's response to mockery. I think it characterizes him very well.
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Dec 19, 2017 17:23
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Hux is the empires jar jar basically.
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Dec 19, 2017 17:27
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It's kind of funny when you remember the billions of lives Hux wiped out and Poe basically sets the pace of the movie to clown on that dude. So I liked it. Hux deserves that poo poo.
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No Hux isn't a Fool.
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Let’s just ignore this enemy star fighter heading straight for us and not shoot at all or deploy any fighters or do literally anything basic protocol would call for so we can get some hamfisted jokes in and establish that this movie will have ongoing issues with tone
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Penpal posted:I hope to see Star Destroyer captains using sextants and telescopes in the next installment You'd need a horizon and a consistent starfield to use a sextant u nub And by consistent starfield I'm not talking about the one that is the same at the end of Rogue One and TLJ as the credits roll, and by horizon I mean something to look forward to in future Star Wars movies.
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Dec 19, 2017 17:33
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Poe was establishing diplomatic parley. Or feinted diplomatic parley to stall.
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euphronius posted:Poe was establishing diplomatic parley. Or feinted diplomatic parley to stall. Why would a star fighter do that and why wouldn’t they deploy their fighters in what was already a fight
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Poe didn't need to stall. The rocket engine - and therefore, the need to stall - was only put in to give him a reason to low-effort troll Hux. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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I’m sure it’s already been discussed, but those space bombers have some SERIOUS design flaws.
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kidkissinger posted:Let’s just ignore this enemy star fighter heading straight for us and not shoot at all or deploy any fighters or do literally anything basic protocol would call for so we can get some hamfisted jokes in and establish that this movie will have ongoing issues with tone "What's the First Order basic protocol when it comes to a lone snub fighter approaching just out of cannon fire range, sir?" "Launch all fighters, ready ventral cannons!!!!!" That could have been funny, just for different and just as dumb reasons.
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kidkissinger posted:Why would a star fighter do that and why wouldn’t they deploy their fighters in what was already a fight Why would a star fighter do what ? Parley?
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AndyElusive posted:"What's the First Order basic protocol when it comes to a lone snub fighter approaching just out of cannon fire range, sir?" Why about when they were literally in combat with another carrier. Wouldn’t that be a good time to have fighters deployed or at least ready to go? Like, if a single starfighter can disable your point defenses effortlessly then yeah, they probably should have been ready here?
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The Hux line reminded me of Han stalling over the intercom in A New Hope. Just a bunch of gibberish buying time (though obviously Han was hoping they'd buy it, but didn't really think it would work. Same effect.)TheDeadlyShoe posted:He didn't need to stall. The rocket engine - and therefore, the need to stall - was only put in to give him a reason to low-effort troll Hux. But he did need to stall. That was, like, his whole given mission from Leia. Stall while we get the transports away. Also, he seemed to be charging up his engines for his big burst of speed. kidkissinger posted:Why would a star fighter do that and why wouldn’t they deploy their fighters in what was already a fight They weren't planning on needing fighters if other fighters weren't around. One fighter showed up, Hux wanted to monologue because he's a big blow hard. He probably should have just deployed fighters, which is reflected in the Commander (or whatever rank) of the Dreadnaught who said, "We need to deploy fighters! ...five minutes ago." But Poe knew Hux would want to be all pompous, and hosed with him to stall a bit. And, I mean, it worked. Poe just hosed up in a different way a little while later.
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kidkissinger posted:Why about when they were literally in combat with another carrier. I don't really remember the scene you're referencing here since there isn't like, a full blown battle report I can read where it details when and where TIE fighter squadrons were launched but I seem to recall watching Resistance ace pilot Poe Dameron lighting up like a ton of them when they were in pursuit. But I mean, who cares man, why are you so focused on battle scene minutiae?
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How is the empires arrogance a plot hole now? I thought it was one of their defining characteristics.
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thrawn527 posted:The Hux line reminded me of Han stalling over the intercom in A New Hope. Just a bunch of gibberish buying time (though obviously Han was hoping they'd buy it, but didn't really think it would work. Same effect.) It’s clearly a call-back to han on the prison intercom. Except he immediately failed his persuasion roll and was found out. Because the villains in the original trilogy aren’t all slapstick comedy actors and are actually threatening.
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kidkissinger posted:Because the villains in the original trilogy aren’t all slapstick comedy actors and are actually threatening. Uhh, they're pretty dang slapstick.
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kidkissinger posted:It’s clearly a call-back to han on the prison intercom. I don't know who you are referring to in this bolded part, because both Han and Poe are near immediately found out. Poe gets maybe 5 more seconds of stall time than Han.
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Bip Roberts posted:How is the empires arrogance a plot hole now? I thought it was one of their defining characteristics. It's 2017 and Nazis are cool again, so a lot of people have high expectations of their sci-fi counterparts and put themselves in their shoes or something and don't want to see their arrogance used against them.
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Bip Roberts posted:Uhh, they're pretty dang slapstick. The stormtroopers are, but I really can’t think of any officers in the original trilogy who were over the top Disney slapstick villains
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Are you saying Hux is slapstick?
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Waffles Inc. posted:Don't treat the art as your enemy, or as if there's some sort of secret code buried within it. Accept that the events happened in the film and that no matter how hard you post on the internet, it won't change. What you see is what's there. Reading how angry people are about the fact that this film dares to take the story places they didn't want has been reminding me strongly of the following passage from one of the most bizarre books ever written: JM Coetzee, The Childhood of Jesus posted:“I can read.”
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Why did the space adventure make the Nazi look dumb?
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kidkissinger posted:The stormtroopers are, but I really can’t think of any officers in the original trilogy who were over the top Disney slapstick villains Admiral Ozzel was a bit of a gently caress up.
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euphronius posted:Are you saying Hux is slapstick? Kylo beating on him is a recurring comedic motif
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So I mean at least you are admitting the scene characterized Hux. You just don't agree with the characterization.
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kidkissinger posted:Kylo beating on him is a recurring comedic motif Sith Lords force choking navy admirals ?? In my Star Wars?? Never !!
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LividLiquid posted:Why did the space adventure make the Nazi look dumb? Being arrogant about your combat capabilities is one thing. Completely ignoring an obvious threat is really not the same.
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Bip Roberts posted:Uhh, they're pretty dang slapstick. Yeah, Empire has one of the best visual gags in the entire series when one of the star destroyers runs into an asteroid and the admiral's hologram just blinks out during a Vader conference call.
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euphronius posted:Sith Lords force choking navy admirals ?? In my Star Wars?? Never !! He straight up squeals and is used as a punchline. In the OT people getting force choked was legitimately frightening.
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