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moostaffa posted:According to http://taxplancalculator.com/calc I'll save $3,284. I don't need a loving tax cut. Yeah I'm saving $2900, guess I can up that monthly donation to PPUSA!
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I need a catchy euphemism for the stock market so we can start making inroads into destroying the capitalist delusion. Rich People High-Score doesn't seem punchy enough. We need to change the language in a way so it's clear that wealth inequality ruins any positives of a high stock market number.
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Glazier posted:Yeah I'm saving $2900, guess I can up that monthly donation to PPUSA! Ditto.
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RuanGacho posted:I need a catchy euphemism for the stock market so we can start making inroads into destroying the capitalist delusion. FYGM Index.
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ReidRansom posted:Same, except not married just yet. Between us we'll save a fair bit, but we already don't spend what we make and we aren't going to increase our consumption after this tax cut and especially not because of it. And that goes for almost anyone out there who is doing better than living paycheck to paycheck. This is just going to lead to people squirreling away more money that they aren't spending, and that would be bad enough if it weren't also going to severely cut federal tax revenues and drive the GOP narrative to further cut federal spending, which is just going to compound the problems. The whole thing is hosed and I'm mad about it You need to save the extra, because the Republicans have made it very clear that there will be no mercy for the old, sick or weak. Put it away to protect yourself if you ever get sick and need to take time off work, or pay medical bills.
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RuanGacho posted:I need a catchy euphemism for the stock market so we can start making inroads into destroying the capitalist delusion. Chutes and ladders, but with guillotines.
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I'm saving $7500 I guess. Hail satan.
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Alter Ego posted:fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I mean, she's not technically lying, in the sense that the stock market did see a record rise and at least part of that is attributable to Trump and the GOP. The problem is that stock market growth is a terrible indicator of overall economic strength, because it only benefits the very wealthy and does gently caress all for the poor.
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Throwing Turtles posted:, they are completely no kill Side note, I hate these places. For the most part, either they’re limited entry, picking up the adoptable animals while leaving another organization to do the euthanizing and thus receive negative attention because of their euthanasia rates, or they’re long term boarding houses for poorly socialized animals who either live in a small places scared for the rest of their lives or they’re a revolving door of poorly trained/re-socialized animals with ignored issues that are omitted on adoption that get returned.
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Julio Cruz posted:I mean, she's not technically lying, in the sense that the stock market did see a record rise and at least part of that is attributable to Trump and the GOP. The problem is that stock market growth is a terrible indicator of overall economic strength, because it only benefits the very wealthy and does gently caress all for the poor. Not only is the stock market growth a terrible indicator, the Dow Jones Index is the worst there is. 3 Reasons Why the Dow is Utterly Useless Why Dow 20,000 Is a Meaningless Milestone Planet Money Episode 443: Don't Believe The Hype
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There is very little difference between the value of a stock and the value of bitcoin as an economic indicator.
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Yeah basically my taxable income goes up but the lower taxed amount as the brackets go up means I'll save more...which really just highlights how the people on the low end of the income scale get hosed because why not decrease that one as well if you're really trying to help people and lower taxes? Why are they stuck paying the same or more, what hte gently caress
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. That feel when you think you're complaining with everyone else only to realize you just outed your privilege?
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Levitate posted:Yeah basically my taxable income goes up but the lower taxed amount as the brackets go up means I'll save more...which really just highlights how the people on the low end of the income scale get hosed because why not decrease that one as well if you're really trying to help people and lower taxes? Why are they stuck paying the same or more, what hte gently caress To kill them.
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. This explains so much.
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. in comparison to the people this tax bill is really for, haha gently caress no on the other hand maybe this tax bill is a ham fisted attempt to start a class war between the middle class and low income people except it's also blatantly obvious the biggest gainers are the people and corporations that are in another reality altogether when it comes to income
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biracial bear for uncut posted:That feel when you think you're complaining with everyone else only to realize you just outed your privilege? Lmao, basically.
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Glazier posted:Yeah I'm saving $2900, guess I can up that monthly donation to PPUSA! What is PPUSA?
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Giving coastal elites a tax break to own the libs
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Dietrich posted:There is very little difference between the value of a stock and the value of bitcoin as an economic indicator. that's not true at all, the stock market is irrational in the short run but it's ultimately about valuing productive assets: you're paying for future appreciation/dividends bitcoin is a tulip mania the current problem with the stock market is that it's appreciating not so much because the future is bright, but because there's nowhere else for the money to go. too much capital is chasing too few places to put it.
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. The average age here in DaD is probably mid-30s, it shouldn't be a surprise a lot of people are well into their careers.
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marshmonkey posted:What is PPUSA? Planned Parenthood
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Levitate posted:in comparison to the people this tax bill is really for, haha gently caress no Brazil is a better example of something like that. I can’t think of a suitable political analogy for the Republican Party with their strongman being such an astoundingly feeble joke and their goals being so transparent and uncompromising. ded redd fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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ReidRansom posted:The average age here in DaD is probably mid-30s, it shouldn't be a surprise a lot of people are well into their careers. Not all careers make you wealthy, and many work until they die without being able to accumulate wealth.
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lol my wife and I will save $270 WHEEEEEEEEEEEE my future is bright now, boys I'm assuming the premium hikes will wipe this out and then some 
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I'm donating every cent I save to 2018 midterm candidates and organizations that will overturn this bullshit.
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Turtlicious posted:Not all careers make you wealthy, and many work until they die without being able to accumulate wealth. You obviously forgot to grab onto your bootstraps.
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I'm gonna buy a Switch and probably Zelda with it. You guys can come over and play if you want.
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evilweasel posted:that's not true at all, the stock market is irrational in the short run but it's ultimately about valuing productive assets: you're paying for future appreciation/dividends You said that's not true at all, and then explained how it was true.
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Those estimates certainly don’t account for the possibility that a lot of people are going to not have any healthcare now that they are killing the mandate, and whatever savings they would have are going to medical costs.
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Turtlicious posted:Not all careers make you wealthy, and many work until they die without being able to accumulate wealth. The tax breaks people are talking about are like, sub 60,000 a year paycheck numbers, no one seems like they are posting numbers that mean they are wealthy. Somethingawful being a bunch of middle class white men isn't really a shocking revelation about demographics.
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Dietrich posted:You said that's not true at all, and then explained how it was true. if that's what you think i said, there's some terms in there you don't understand. what part about what i said about stocks made you think that it meant "tulip mania"
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I guess I'll make an extra mortgage payment and donate some more than I already do to the ACLU and SPLC. And maybe buy some really nice booze and pills to bring as barter goods into the apocalyptic wasteland of the future.
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. I'm gonna incorporate and get my work to pay my pass-thru corp to get that 20% rate, as God intended.
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Oh good, I'll save $200. I'd gladly give up half my income to live in a just, equitable society, but boy oh boy these two Franklins are almost as nice, thank you Mitch
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biracial bear for uncut posted:That feel when you think you're complaining with everyone else only to realize you just outed your privilege? They know exactly what they're doing.
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evilweasel posted:that's not true at all, the stock market is irrational in the short run but it's ultimately about valuing productive assets: you're paying for future appreciation/dividends Moreover the value of the Dow is as a yardstick of historical performance. Owlofcreamcheese posted:The tax breaks people are talking about are like, sub 60,000 a year paycheck numbers, no one seems like they are posting numbers that mean they are wealthy. Somethingawful being a bunch of middle class white men isn't really a shocking revelation about demographics. If you aren't currently living out of a cardboard box posting from public library then your opinions have no merit. Some goons were poor before it was cool to be poor, no true Scotsmen, etc etc Boon fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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Push El Burrito posted:I'm gonna buy a Switch and probably Zelda with it. Uh uh, I know how this works. The second controller's not plugged in, is it?
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