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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

an actual dog posted:

the failing new york times
the failing new york times
hi-ho, a derry-o
the failing new york times

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

an actual dog posted:

the failing new york times
the failing new york times
hi-ho, a derry-o
the failing new york times

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
the new tory times

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

got any sevens posted:

the new tory times

The New Whig Times

A party of old bullshit that withered up and blew away once all the people who realized compromise isn't a valid position on slavery anymore left

fart blood
Sep 13, 2008

by VideoGames
I like the NY Times more than a lot of you in this thread, but man you guys are really making me like them a lot less.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

fart blood posted:

I like the NY Times more than a lot of you in this thread, but man you guys are really making me like them a lot less.

I actually think Paul Krugman is a great op-ed writer (pauses for Berniebros to run in, loudly denouncing him)

e: For example, Krugman described the new tax bill as "like the caning of Charles Sumner" in terms of how undemocratic and unjust he was, and goddamnit, he is right

but yeah, NYT as a institution, it is garbage

Nebakenezzer has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Dec 15, 2017

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
when you read krugman's new york review of books pieces, you realize that his nytimes column is written with absolute contempt for his dullard audience

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
failing

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/941419312253767680

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

Working under late stage capitalism is a series of Stalinist personality cults in miniature.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

too lazy to go back for it, imagine I emptyquoted "the HEILING new york times" again

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the sad
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saad
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failing new york times


on the other hand performative public sycophancy might be the best strategy for staying employed

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Working under late stage capitalism is a series of Stalinist personality cults in miniature.

But without the cool parades

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void


Then Sarah deleted that poo poo and then posted this

https://twitter.com/SarahMaslinNir/status/941810519698235392

The vile rich are so pathetically thin-skinned the French revolution could probably have been carried out to full effect with butter knives.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

Dreddout posted:

But without the cool parades

what about the parade of buttertrolls lining up for Papa John's on pizza day?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

what about the parade of buttertrolls lining up for Papa John's on pizza day?

Get back to me when each smooth boy is carrying a portrait of big papa, then we'll talk

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

gonna paint a beautiful realist painting showing Great Papa bestowing pizza upon the hungering masses

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Over Easy posted:

Then Sarah deleted that poo poo and then posted this

https://twitter.com/SarahMaslinNir/status/941810519698235392

The vile rich are so pathetically thin-skinned the French revolution could probably have been carried out to full effect with butter knives.

I love "too many people got mad at my dumb tweet so I deleted it and replaced it with a 140-character whine about how mean people are" tweets

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

Fallen Hamprince posted:

gonna paint a beautiful realist painting showing Great Papa bestowing pizza upon the hungering masses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhzXDDXt74

The New York Times
Mar 2, 2013

Call
1-800-NYTIMES for FREE home delivery

Shear Modulus posted:

the sad
sad
sad
sad
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saad
sad
sad
failing new york times

Well gently caress you too, buddy.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

What are the oligarchs vaccinating there kids with?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/942027119743393792

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

The New York Times posted:

Well gently caress you too, buddy.

So, is it hard clamoring for reform that doesn't make rich people uncomfortable?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/942777520562294784

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)


J.D. Vance is an actual child

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

an actual dog posted:

the failing new york times
the failing new york times
hi-ho, a derry-o
the failing new york times

https://youtu.be/tFELNIpeTjY

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

A deep dive into a empty pool: David Brooks' latest op-ed

The Workers Paradise

I am not appalled that the Republican tax bill cuts the corporate tax rate to 21 percent. Some of my liberal friends treat this as a moral horror and trot out all sorts of awful distributional tables to prove it. But the fact is that Barack Obama repeatedly proposed cutting it to 28 percent and the average European corporate rate has now fallen to 18.4 percent.

All around the globe cutting the corporate rate has become the conventional way to attract business and spur investment. It’s not some plutocratic conspiracy.

I am appalled that Republicans didn’t seek to balance this tax bill with an equal effort to help the people who actually got them elected. The central problem of our time is the stagnation of middle-class wages, the disintegration of working-class communities and the ensuing fragmentation of American society.

Our political leadership has shown an amazing ability to look the other way. George W. Bush fought a war on terror. Obama devoted his presidency to expanding health insurance. Donald Trump is all talk and no policy.

It doesn’t have to be this way. While Republican politicians are myopically besotted with pleasing their donor class, a new generation of conservative policy wonks has been coming up with dozens of ways to help the workers and the middle class.

For example, Michael Strain of the American Enterprise Institute has been touting a broad workers’ agenda: expand the earned-income tax credit for childless adults, cut payroll taxes, create fleets of buses so that struggling workers can commute to booming commercial centers, reduce the length of unemployment spells by giving jobless workers a modest cash bonus when they get a new job, streamline licensing requirements.

Currently about a third of all American jobs require a license, and these requirements to get them make no sense. The average emergency medical technician trains for 33 days, but the average cosmetologist has to spend 372 days in training for a license. This separates people from work.

Every weekday, get thought-provoking commentary from Op-Ed columnists, the Times editorial board and contributing writers from around the world.

Yuval Levin’s journal, National Affairs, has become a foundry of ideas to enhance social mobility, covering a range of topics:

Labor Force Participation: Eli Lehrer and Catherine Moyer point out that while men drop out of the labor force at alarming rates, most of the fast-growing job sectors are dominated by women, like nurses, elementary school teachers and, yes, statisticians. They propose grants and other programs to induce men to get over cultural stereotypes and apply for these jobs.

They also point out that if you prevent employers from checking credit scores as part of the job application process, you can significantly boost work-force levels in poor credit areas.

Ex-Offender Policies. Robert Cherry touts municipalities that delay asking about job applicants’ criminal records until the final stages of the hiring process. In one Minneapolis study, only 6 percent of the ex-offenders were hired when they had to announce their criminal record up front. When a new application form without that requirement was used, Minneapolis hired 60 percent of those with records.

Mobility vouchers. A great mobility divide has opened up in America. Since 2010, those with college degrees have increasingly been moving across state lines to get jobs. Those with a high school education or less have seen their mobility rates decline. Eli Lehrer and Lori Sanders recommend mobility grants, so the unemployed can move to where the jobs are. Migration zones would use federal and state tax credits to fund apprenticeship programs to ease the way for newcomers.

Career Pathways.
In 2008, 90 percent of high school seniors said they were going to college. By 2013, only 32 percent of people in their mid-20s had a four-year degree. The “College for All” movement is misconceived, argue Robert Schwartz and Nancy Hoffman. The better approach is career and technical education, C.T.E.s. These can be schools that begin at the high school level and blend into the community college level and provide training for specific jobs without forcing students to complete a full four-year college course load.

Union Reform. Writing in City Journal, Oren Cass argues that worker co-ops, of the kind found in Sweden and Denmark, are better suited to today’s flexible labor markets than old-fashioned unions. These would be worker-controlled and worker-funded organizations that would train workers, represent workers and look after worker interests far beyond any individual workplace. They wouldn’t be compulsory, but they would be civic organizations providing support to workers in all aspects of their professional lives.

Right now, Republican politicians have shown astonishingly little interest in these and other ideas, except Senators Marco Rubio, Mike Lee and Tim Scott, Representative Kevin Yoder and a few others. And I confess, I don’t expect the G.O.P. to be hurt by the decision to stiff its own voters. The historical pattern is clear: The less Republicans do for workers, the more alienated the workers become and the more they vote Republican.

But doing something to address the biggest problem of the age, which is wrecking thousands of communities and millions of lives, would be good for the country. That used to be the sort of thing politicians were interested in.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

what loving universe do these dipshits live in

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I zoned out the moment he brought up paying people to get a job, which sounds surprisingly early.

If there aren't enough jobs then how will trying to increase the labor pool create more jobs?

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:

the bitcoin of weed posted:

what loving universe do these dipshits live in

Manhattan

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
They literally live in an island that is half garbage

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Nebakenezzer posted:

The better approach is C.T.E.s.

whoever wrote this has CTE

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

C. Everett Koop posted:

whoever wrote this has CTE

Unless this is a sick medical burn Dr. Koop, I'm really really sure he does not

Can you imagine somebody who low class enough not to go to Yale thinking "what we really need here are government wage subsidies and cash incentives for finding work"

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

the corporate tax rate take is actually not as hot as it sounds, though it's still fairly hot bc the republicans cut it to 20 and not 25ish. the corporate tax is actually a pretty bad way to redistribute wealth because it hits rich investors and middle class people with tax-sheltered vehicles like 401ks equally, it's much better to raise that money using the capital gains tax. the real take heat is in thinking it would be a great idea for paul ryan and mitch mcconnel to turn their sauron-like legislative eyes to labor after the absolute fuckjob they did with the tax code

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Have a miniscule levy on every commodity and stock trade to simultaneously raise funds and discourage high frequency trading.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
It was mostly poo poo, but the parts about not checking credit scores or felony status are solid as gently caress.

I mean seriously, why are credit scores being checked except as backdoor racism?

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

the bitcoin of weed posted:

what loving universe do these dipshits live in

I'm amazed this guy gets paid to write this poo poo.

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

David Brooks posted:

Union Reform. Writing in City Journal, Oren Cass argues that worker co-ops, of the kind found in Sweden and Denmark, are better suited to today’s flexible labor markets than old-fashioned unions. These would be worker-controlled and worker-funded organizations that would train workers, represent workers and look after worker interests far beyond any individual workplace. They wouldn’t be compulsory, but they would be civic organizations providing support to workers in all aspects of their professional lives.

Never though I would hear a republican arguing for seizing the means of production.

I also love that he advocates for affirmative action for men to break into statistics, a field in which 43% of employees are women.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

GoluboiOgon posted:

Never though I would hear a republican arguing for seizing the means of production.

I also love that he advocates for affirmative action for men to break into statistics, a field in which 43% of employees are women.

"Too many women statisticians leads to liberal bias"

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Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Nebakenezzer posted:

Unless this is a sick medical burn Dr. Koop

it is, lmao

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