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Reiterpallasch posted:the cape westwind dude will gently caress up a bunch of level 49 players wearing gear they haven't touched since brayflox What’s the deal with Cape Westwind dude, anyway? Whenever I faced him, the rest of the party dogpiled him hard enough that I never really got a feel for his gimmicks (other than that they weren’t presenting me with much difficulty as ranged DPS).
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Amazing  I started the week before 2.3 hit so I didn't get to experience such calamity.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:16
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Darth Walrus posted:What’s the deal with Cape Westwind dude, anyway? Whenever I faced him, the rest of the party dogpiled him hard enough that I never really got a feel for his gimmicks (other than that they weren’t presenting me with much difficulty as ranged DPS). He has a strong AoE attack that is hinted at dialogue instead of traditional markers and also adds. Nowdays his gimmick is being the easiest leveling roulette you'll ever get.
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Darth Walrus posted:What’s the deal with Cape Westwind dude, anyway? Whenever I faced him, the rest of the party dogpiled him hard enough that I never really got a feel for his gimmicks (other than that they weren’t presenting me with much difficulty as ranged DPS). Cape Westwind allows level 50, which is a galactic leap beyond the poo poo he was meant to fight (mostly level 49 people with poo poo Gear). I wish SE made the same "mistake" with Aurum Vale.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:18
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If you ever want a taste of these fights, get 7 friends together and run them at min ilevel sync.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:20
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I remember when Crystal Tower and Labyrinth of the Ancients were complete hell that was regular to wipe on multiple times now it's complete hell in that it's miserably boring
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Dec 20, 2017 22:23
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Now the raids just have like 5-10 people completely afk, and you can't kick them because a fight started, and then you can't kick them because there's a 47 hour 18 minute loot timer, and then you can't kick them because the next fight started.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:If you ever want a taste of these fights, get 7 friends together and run them at min ilevel sync. See also: Thordan Normal
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Dec 20, 2017 23:00
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SonicRulez posted:See also: Thordan Normal Really? I did that at HW launch and don’t remember it being too complicated.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:01
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Ainsley McTree posted:Really? I did that at HW launch and don’t remember it being too complicated. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Nidhogg at launch though...
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Dec 20, 2017 23:03
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It's a shame because I think Rhitahtyn has a neat design and has a more interesting hook than his fellow tribunes, but Westwind is such a huge sack of nothing that he kind of fades into obsolescence immediately as you rush along past him into more interesting content.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:07
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Thordan hard was a streamroller when I did it, a few days after Heavensward came out. It was big and flashy and a nice ending, but certainly not difficult compared to half of the dungeon final bosses. Nidhogg hard took me multiple groups over a few hours.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:10
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Reiterpallasch posted:the cape westwind dude will gently caress up a bunch of level 49 players wearing gear they haven't touched since brayflox How do you lose to Rhitatyn?  Orcs and Ostriches posted:Thordan hard was a streamroller when I did it, a few days after Heavensward came out. It was big and flashy and a nice ending, but certainly not difficult compared to half of the dungeon final bosses. I did Final Steps of Faith exactly once. Somehow I managed to not die and clear in one try. I have never touched it again, because I never want to stain that attempt.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:20
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DizzyBum posted:What's there to figure out, aside from "kill the bits" and "don't stand in the bad"? Dude it's been four years. I can't remember what went wrong, and the only reason I remember the black mage part is because the guy came back to me in tells later because someone bitched him out to his FC leader and he thought it was me. Orcs and Ostriches posted:Thordan hard was a streamroller when I did it, a few days after Heavensward came out. It was big and flashy and a nice ending, but certainly not difficult compared to half of the dungeon final bosses. As a fresh 60 three days into the expansion I tried tanking both of the brothers in Thordaddy. Turns out double bladedance can kill.
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Vitamean posted:Dude it's been four years. I can't remember what went wrong, and the only reason I remember the black mage part is because the guy came back to me in tells later because someone bitched him out to his FC leader and he thought it was me. I was solo tanking that all the time. Seemed like the right time for holmgang.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:40
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:How do you lose to Rhitatyn? shockingly, raidwide damage which is trivial to a character wearing level 130 synced gear is actually kind of dangerous to a character wearing level 33 gear, especially when the fight lasts more than 20 seconds
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Dec 20, 2017 23:49
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Dec 20, 2017 23:57
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It is a bit of a shame that the initial lineup of Bad Dudes basically just left the stage at the end of 2.0. Well, besides Nero.
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Saint Freak posted:Now the raids just have like 5-10 people completely afk, and you can't kick them because a fight started, and then you can't kick them because there's a 47 hour 18 minute loot timer, and then you can't kick them because the next fight started. Hobgoblin2099 posted:I did Final Steps of Faith exactly once. Somehow I managed to not die and clear in one try. Also, is Nidhogg first trial with the stacking mechanic?
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Reiterpallasch posted:shockingly, raidwide damage which is trivial to a character wearing level 130 synced gear is actually kind of dangerous to a character wearing level 33 gear, especially when the fight lasts more than 20 seconds I’ve told the story before, but the first time I did the trial I was level 49 and in a group of other newbies. We wiped 5 times. That missile attack actually does a ton of damage to a barely-geared group and can wipe a raid if they’re not dodging it. You’d just never know it because the odds of getting a group like that are astronomical and I’m not sure how I managed it
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Argas posted:It is a bit of a shame that the initial lineup of Bad Dudes basically just left the stage at the end of 2.0. Well, besides Nero. Less left and more had an untimely run in with the resident god killer except Nero, he just peaced out.
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Dwesa posted:In one of my recent Rabanastre runs, group decided to kick afkers and we waited until the end of the loot timer doing emotes and babbling, good times. No but you would think it is based on how people loving scatter when that Akh Morn marker comes out. 
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Ibblebibble posted:Cape Westwind (Ultimate) No lie, a new trial pitting you against Rhitahtyn, Livia, Nero and Gaius all at once would be rad.
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I don't think Thordan is hard or complex, just that you get the feel for how the fight is supposed to go at min ilevel. I'm not rushing to do it again, but I did it once and it was a fun experience. The Final Steps of Faith took me many tries. Even now when I get it in Trial roulette, there's usually a good chance of someone loving it up. Last time it was, as you would expect, someone had never seen a stack marker before. So they run off and get obliterated by Ahk Morn. Then, since the rest weren't stacked for whatever reason, Nidhogg just proceeded to annihilate 3 more dudes or however many he tosses out in the first one. I feel like I was just in a really bad group though, because the next day's trial roulette was Shinryu and that went nearly flawlessly. And Shinryu was also a pubbie smasher at launch. It's surprising how black and white trial roulette can feel. If it's Ifrit or Shiva, I know I can fall asleep. If it's Lakshmi or Shinryu or Nidhogg, I gotta start praying.
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Argas posted:It is a bit of a shame that the initial lineup of Bad Dudes basically just left the stage at the end of 2.0. Well, besides Nero. On the other hand, having the antagonists you defeat actually be defeated is awesome and something that some JRPG's really should have learned to do (looking at you Xenoblade Chronicles 2.)
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So back in the 2.x days, a lot of the end game content, while luggable, was difficult. Stuff like Ramuh EX, Levi EX, and Titan EX caused a lot of trouble for random groups. Is the 70 content like that? Not including savage which is what I assume people tossing around stuff like O4S means
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Kashuno posted:I remember when Crystal Tower and Labyrinth of the Ancients were complete hell that was regular to wipe on multiple times I dunno - it’s easy, flashy, pretty, and has great music and fun mechanics (like floating to avoid Xande’s Ancient Qaga). That goes a long way for something you’ll mostly be seeing in Roulettes.
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Kashuno posted:So back in the 2.x days, a lot of the end game content, while luggable, was difficult. Stuff like Ramuh EX, Levi EX, and Titan EX caused a lot of trouble for random groups. Is the 70 content like that? I think the trials are of comparable difficulty. Lakshmi and Susano aren't quite as hard as Odin or Ramuh EX, but I'd say they're more difficult to nail down than Ifrit or Shiva. The raids are a different story. What Coil was is more comparable to what Savage is now. And Second Coil Savage is a dark road that I have never traveled.
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Susano and Lakshmi are easier than any of the 2.x extremes imo but Shinryu is plenty hard.
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Coughing Hobo posted:No lie, a new trial pitting you against Rhitahtyn, Livia, Nero and Gaius all at once would be rad. Yeah, I told my static that's the Ultimate I want. Easy set up with the Minstrel too. "Remember when you defended Eorzea? How'd that go again...."
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If for no other reason I want Cape Westwind Savage for more Steel Reason.
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Skaw posted:Yeah, I told my static that's the Ultimate I want. Easy set up with the Minstrel too. "Remember when you defended Eorzea? How'd that go again...." Instead of the magitek armor, Livia just has a Brute Justice for some reason Give the Minstrel a break, it's been awhile
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EponymousMrYar posted:On the other hand, having the antagonists you defeat actually be defeated is awesome and something that some JRPG's really should have learned to do (looking at you Xenoblade Chronicles 2.) Oh definitely. I think with the initial 2.0 release they tried to make it as self-contained as possible (in case it didn't succeed), so while there's lots of loose ends lying around, the main plot more or less concludes and there's an ending for people to celebrate. Coughing Hobo posted:No lie, a new trial pitting you against Rhitahtyn, Livia, Nero and Gaius all at once would be rad. IIRC this was mentioned as one of the Extreme trials they've gotten requests for and have wanted to do themselves but they're basically just been busy with patch and expansion content. Maybe now that Unending Coil is done they can probably tackle that next.
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My favourite thing to do back in 2.X when doing main story roulette and getting Prae was to convince people not to kill the magitek bits and just disco dance dodge constantly.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:How do you lose to Rhitatyn? In addition to the other responses, it's also babby's first 8-player content. (Second, for the minority of players who'd been keeping up with their guildhests.) Which means two tanks, and when this is right at launch, chances are pretty drat good that neither of them has ever contemplated the idea of themselves not being The Main Tank On The Boss. What I'm getting at is, when you have two tanks squabbling over threat on the boss, and zero tanks picking up those little soldier add dudes because that's Not The Main Tank's Job and both of the tanks are Clearly The One Who Is Actually The Main Tank... Well, in that situation, you discover that the soldier adds can actually murder their way through undergeared level 49 squishies (starting with the healers of course) pretty drat effectively. Even without accounting for the missiles. You still see this to a lesser extreme (and less embarrassingly weak enemies) in 24-player content sometimes. Usually it's because the off-tanks are in "lalala I'm a DPS" mode, but sometimes it's because there are multiple "main tanks". Examples include iron giants on King Behemoth, those plant things with the ridiculous poison on Cerberus, or that big add on Scathach. Vil fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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I remember when you needed at least a minimum of 3,200 HP to barely survive Titan HM's Stomps
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Dec 21, 2017 01:32
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Doing minimum ilvl ARR Extreme Primals is a hell of a trip. Seeing just how loving tiny numbers were back then is a mindfuck.
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Dec 21, 2017 01:36
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So, what’re the good role actions for a SMN, a MCH, and a DRK?
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So I finally beat Stormblood. Story was great, although I feel it fell short of the awesome that was patch 3.3. Particularly, Xenos felt hollow. I'd much rather have had Ala Migo be its own thing and the final fight with Xenos be a 1v1. That said I've not enjoyed an MMO this much since Vanilla WoW. Now that I'm 70, I want to check out what the gear treadmill is like before I make my choice to go into the madness that is an MMO endgame. What do I need to do at 70 were I to want to try whatever endgame raiding looks like in this?
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Doing minimum ilvl ARR Extreme Primals is a hell of a trip. Seeing just how loving tiny numbers were back then is a mindfuck. I'm going to drag my static kicking and screaming into min ilvl Titan EX someday. It'll be great.
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