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I have not seen a single person aside from Hastings write Gwenpool well so I'm pretty sure us fans of her are SoL. That said, 2 years worth of comics was a pretty good run for what started as a joke based off a variant cover.
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I thought Nick Kocher did a decent job with her in the Rocket Raccoon & Groot Civil War 2 "tie in" arc, where they both get the gently caress out of NYC and chase down the same bounty.
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Dec 20, 2017 15:08
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I'm sure they'll announce a new Gwenpool book late next year with a marketing push.
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howe_sam posted:I thought Nick Kocher did a decent job with her in the Rocket Raccoon & Groot Civil War 2 "tie in" arc, where they both get the gently caress out of NYC and chase down the same bounty. I didn't like that arc cuz she was written like deadpool and by the end he had her stripped down to her bra and panties, which not only is that kind of objectification not even what that character is about, but this was at a time when we weren't even sure she was out of high school
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Dec 20, 2017 17:43
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Pureauthor posted:I have not seen a single person aside from Hastings write Gwenpool well so I'm pretty sure us fans of her are SoL. I feel like someone like Zdarsky or North could write her well, but yea, it would take a specific writing skill to make her work.
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Edge & Christian posted:I mean I'm not sure how true any of that is? What he said.
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I'm kinda down about Jane dying. I'm sure she'll come back eventually, but I really liked her as Thor.
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Edge & Christian posted:gritty best-sellers that no one liked I unironically enjoyed Secret Empire, if only because we got to see a canon retcon fall apart under its own logic. It took time for it to fully demonstrate itself, but my God it was amazing when all the cards were revealed.
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Dec 20, 2017 19:05
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I really hope future issues of two in one are funny if theyre gonna be using zdarksy cuz him doing a serious book is a huge waste
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Dec 20, 2017 19:58
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Twitter seems up in arms about America getting cancelled but, like, wasn't it really bad?
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Dec 20, 2017 19:59
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Little Mac posted:Twitter seems up in arms about America getting cancelled but, like, wasn't it really bad? Every issue I’ve glanced has terrible art and writing so yeah.
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Dec 20, 2017 20:01
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Eh, much like tnc gabby just needed time to figure out how to write comics. Its not great but its been getting better over the last few issues. Still kinda ridiculous tho So david walker pointed out that since cage is cancelled, hes no longer working for marvel. So does that leave tnc the only black writer at marvel? Am i forgetting someone?
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Dec 20, 2017 20:03
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Starlin just had a major falling out with Marvel again and walked. So no trilogy of space stuff with Alan Davis.
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site posted:I didn't like that arc cuz she was written like deadpool and by the end he had her stripped down to her bra and panties, which not only is that kind of objectification not even what that character is about, but this was at a time when we weren't even sure she was out of high school Yeah, Gwen in that tie-in really wasn't handled well. It was really annoying how she was reduced to doing "lol4thwalljoke" pretty much every other line. Plus, by that point I think Gwein her own comic was toning down being so gung-ho about violence and causing so much property damage so this tie-in didn't really mesh well with me.
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Yeah I read about Starlin last night. Apparently Breevort green lit his last OGN and then green lit this prelude to infinity stones which Starlin said stole all kinds of story beats from him and when confronted Brevoort kept changing his story. It sounds like the kind of behind the scenes stuff we already suspected.
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Dec 20, 2017 20:27
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And people doubted me when i guessed starlin was gonna be mad
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Stealing stuff is rude. Brevoort is a habitual liar, at least when it comes to interacting with the fans, so it's going to be hard to find out what actually happened.
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site posted:So david walker pointed out that since cage is cancelled, hes no longer working for marvel. https://twitter.com/DavidWalker1201/status/943541356005224448 Doesn't sound like he's long for comics at all. I would not blame him after his luck. Sweet guy though. https://twitter.com/DavidWalker1201/status/943542779367473153
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Dec 20, 2017 21:35
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The problem with comics remain that they are too expensive. The price may be justified by the cost, but 5$ for 15 minutes of entertainment is a losing proposition.
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Marvel 2 in 1 was great, they must be getting ready to give Zdarsky Fantastic Four proper somewhere down the line.
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Shawn posted:Yeah I read about Starlin last night. Apparently Breevort green lit his last OGN and then green lit this prelude to infinity stones which Starlin said stole all kinds of story beats from him and when confronted Brevoort kept changing his story. It sounds like the kind of behind the scenes stuff we already suspected. Starlin said that the story in question was for the ongoing Thanos series, not Infinity Countdown. Though it's possible he was just confused on that detail.
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Jordan7hm posted:The problem with comics remain that they are too expensive. The price may be justified by the cost, but 5$ for 15 minutes of entertainment is a losing proposition. Unfortunately printing costs are incredibly high. Thankfully the entire industry moved to the digital market, with appropriately cheaper prices, over a decade ago when it became obvious that it was the wave of the future. Wait, no.
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Wait, I just realized they named a series Infinity Countdown non-ironically. Déjà vu.
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DC still manages to sell for $1 less than Marvel though.
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Aphrodite posted:DC still manages to sell for $1 less than Marvel though. Yeah but they only do that with books they double-ship. Although now that I think about it, I believe Marvel still double ships some books at the $3.99 price...
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pubic works project posted:Yeah but they only do that with books they double-ship. Although now that I think about it, I believe Marvel still double ships some books at the $3.99 price... The main X-Men titles are double shipped at $3.99. I'm less annoyed by that, and more annoyed by: "It's a landmark issue number, time to have 5 back up stories as an excuse to charge 5.99 - 9.99" which I'm starting to find is the real reason for Marvel Legacy. Or how every first issue is $4.99 now. There's a random issue of Avengers in March that's not a landmark number or anything, that's priced at $4.99 for no reason. I appreciate that DC is pricing the Dark Matter comics at $2.99 by contrast. Roth fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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I’m visiting my parents for Christmas and dropped into the comic shop I used to go to down here, my first time in a brick and mortar shop in awhile. drat people weren’t kidding when they said those Marvel lenticular covers didn’t work right. They look like poo poo and the store had tons of them around.
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Endless Mike posted:I’m visiting my parents for Christmas and dropped into the comic shop I used to go to down here, my first time in a brick and mortar shop in awhile. drat people weren’t kidding when they said those Marvel lenticular covers didn’t work right. They look like poo poo and the store had tons of them around. Wouldn't have happened to be in NE Indiana? I have a massive display of those drat things at half price.
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Lurdiak posted:Unfortunately printing costs are incredibly high. Thankfully the entire industry moved to the digital market, with appropriately cheaper prices, over a decade ago when it became obvious that it was the wave of the future. I get what you're putting down, but are printing costs a big part of it? I had thought so too, but Marvel has their True Believers reprints of classic issues selling for a dollar apiece. (I picked up a bunch of Giant Sized X-Mens and X-Factors as souvenirs for my students last time I was back home.) And you know none of that money is going as royalties to the creative team, so I assumed printing would be maybe 70 cents or so of the cost.
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Jordan7hm posted:The problem with comics remain that they are too expensive. The price may be justified by the cost, but 5$ for 15 minutes of entertainment is a losing proposition. Yeah, they need to bite the bullet and make a bunch of the more niche books dollar specials online, or a page-a-day webcomic, or something other than paper. Something like Angela: Queen of Hel would've blown up as a web series.
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Dec 21, 2017 00:43
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Apparently Marvel yanked a Trump joke outta Two-in-One after previews. 
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Teenage Fansub posted:Apparently Marvel yanked a Trump joke outta Two-in-One after previews. That was a bridge too far? Jesus, grow a spine, Marvel.
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Barry Convex posted:Starlin said that the story in question was for the ongoing Thanos series, not Infinity Countdown. Though it's possible he was just confused on that detail. That’s probably me misreading it. That’s even worse. Cribbing for an event to tie in with the movie is at least more important to the company. The OGN by the creator probably should have taken priority over the monthly series.
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Maybe Marvel is scared of ~the Trump curse~
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If by the trump curse you mean ike firing them
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Rhyno posted:Wouldn't have happened to be in NE Indiana? I have a massive display of those drat things at half price. Buddy, if I came to your shop, I’d loudly exclaim “HEY IS RHYNO HERE? I’M LOOKING FOR RHYNO!”
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Endless Mike posted:Buddy, if I came to your shop, I’d loudly exclaim “HEY IS RHYNO HERE? I’M LOOKING FOR RHYNO!” MAYBE YOU'RE SHY IN PERSON
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Rochallor posted:I get what you're putting down, but are printing costs a big part of it? I had thought so too, but Marvel has their True Believers reprints of classic issues selling for a dollar apiece. (I picked up a bunch of Giant Sized X-Mens and X-Factors as souvenirs for my students last time I was back home.) And you know none of that money is going as royalties to the creative team, so I assumed printing would be maybe 70 cents or so of the cost. There's some sort of (probably trivial to overall cost) royalty system in place, but the other big thing is that they're certainly not paying anyone to produce new material for those 99 cent books, which is probably honestly the biggest cost factor for any comic these days. Based on some of the self-reported numbers for people's page rates, a baseline comic book at Marvel or DC comic would cost like $500 a page between script/pencils/inks/colors/letters, and that's assuming sort of 'average' page rates. When just to get the book out usually costs over $10,000 on top of like baked-in printing/editing/office/shipping/whatever I do understand why comics are "expensive", the difference between DC and Marvel I don't fully understand though it might explain why DC has spent a lot of time in the past five years experimenting with letting artists write and/or ink and color their own stuff or etc. because in general the hyphenated people generally cost less than two+ entirely separate people, from what I understand? I have never actually hired people to create comics so if I am full of poo poo please someone correct me.
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Cabbit posted:That was a bridge too far? Jesus, grow a spine, Marvel. Marvel has been terrified of making political statements since Joe Quesada became EIC. I doubt being bought by Disney improved that.
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Lurdiak posted:Marvel has been terrified of making political statements since Joe Quesada became EIC. I doubt being bought by Disney improved that. Except for that time they teamed up with the MIC
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