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Breakfast All Day posted:I have here in my hand a list of 195 . . . a list of names that were made known to the something awful dot com forums as being members of global capitalism gently caress I’ve been discovered. Guess I better report my failure to the shadowy cabal of hedge fund managers whose checks I cash to be a phony leftist on the internet.
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Lightning Knight posted:There aren’t any meaningfully non-capitalist countries. There are social democracies with heavily regulated capitalism, state capitalist authoritarian countries, crony capitalist countries, etc. What is your point? You’re so close...
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yronic heroism posted:You’re so close... why don't you just make your idiot point so you can be mocked quickly and be done with it instead of dragging your shame out for 20 pages?
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yronic heroism posted:You’re so close... Is this some kind of “if socialism was so great why haven’t any countries implemented socialism?  ” point or is it a “the Soviet Union/PRC were bad therefore socialism is bad ” point.
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Condiv posted:why don't you just make your idiot point so you can be mocked quickly and be done with it instead of dragging your shame out for 20 pages? And miss being lectured about uspol from a dude in France?
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Lightning Knight posted:Is this some kind of “if socialism was so great why haven’t any countries implemented socialism? More like a “read the links posted earlier” point. All of which make similar claims about capitalism being a meaningless term and seem to have not been written by a goon in November 2017.
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“Capitalism is different than it used to be due to technological, cultural, and economic shift” is true but doesn’t mean that it’s so different that “capitalism” is an invalid term.
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yronic heroism posted:And miss being lectured about uspol from a dude in France? would i have to be physically in the us to know about us politics? it's not like news articles are region locked or something you idiot it's also not like i don't speak with my family back home edit: also,  at the notion of capitalism being a meaningless term
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Condiv posted:would i have to be physically in the us to know about us politics? it's not like news articles are region locked or something you idiot 
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socialist countries: cuba, dprk, laos, prc, vietnam, nepal....? capitalist countries: every other industrialized nation in the world
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Lightning Knight posted:“Capitalism is different than it used to be due to technological, cultural, and economic shift” is true but doesn’t mean that it’s so different that “capitalism” is an invalid term. The claim thrown out there by ZP was that I somehow invented a new ideology. The claim is verifiably incorrect. I merely made a point many, many others have made. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Condiv posted:would i have to be physically in the us to know about us politics? it's not like news articles are region locked or something you idiot thanks for the reminder you believe Fox and random tweets as “news”
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yronic heroism posted:I’m sorry to disappoint all the college sophomores in this thread who just read Das Kapital and really want to talk about it to No lie, I actually just threw out my copy of 1848 because it got all wet and moldy. Just virtue signalling that I read too.
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reading is counter-revolutionary.
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yronic heroism posted:All of which make similar claims about capitalism being a meaningless term lmao
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Cingulate posted:Across a sufficiently large space, all these terms are indeed practically meaniningless. Eg, if a person who calls Obama a socialist and a person who calls Trump a fascist argue, usage of the term capitalism will make everything even worse. This goes for, uh, every word I don’t know exactly the ideological space between r guyovich and LK but even they can’t agree what capitalism is above. Hence my contention that quizzing people on whether they “support capitalism” is sophomoric bullshit that generates heat but no light.
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Most vocal capitalism proponents don't understand capitalism at all.
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botany posted:reading is counter-revolutionary. I saw a capitalist the other day. Horrible creatures!
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Inescapable Duck posted:Most vocal capitalism proponents don't understand capitalism at all. E tu inescapable milkshake duck?
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I get that yronic is too dumb to understand the definition of concepts like capitalism, but it's some next level poo poo to brag about your ignorance like this.
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Claiming that concepts like capitalism, neoliberalism, or racism don't exist is pretty much badlib 101. Granted, it's rare to see someone go for all three but yronic is something special.
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Wait, wait... You're telling me that different stages of capitalism have different characteristics?! Why didn't someone ever tell me! Oh, wait, a bunch of people did. Never mind, carry on.
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Nevvy Z posted:Have you ever read any other post by Ytala ever? Because like, yeah, he has. To be fair, he seemed to be criticizing the idea of generalizing based on anecdotal experience, which is a reasonable enough point to make (though it's something pretty much everyone does to some extent). I would never expect to convince anyone else based off of anecdotal experience. As I said, there's no way to really convey these things to others in a way I could really expect them to just accept on faith. That being said, I'm not extrapolating my experiences into some sort of condemnation of these people. I'm just pointing out how easy it is to "absorb" the assumptions and beliefs of the people you spend time around, and I can guarantee that most politicians are going to be spending a lot of time around highly educated/well-off industry folks (like lobbyists, executives, or even fellow politicians). It's hard to really "go against the current" in a situation like that, and it's easy to just behave in ways that allow you to get along well with most of your peers (which, as mentioned, are going to generally be other well-off, highly educated people). The point is mainly that existing in that sort of environment makes it very difficult for a person to become even remotely radicalized, because you end up having difficulty demonizing the people you spend a lot of time with. It's basically the same concept as "it's harder for people who spend a lot of (positive) personal time with PoC to become really racist", except working towards harmful ends because the people in question are the wealthy/well-off instead of ethnic minorities.
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yronic heroism posted:thanks for the reminder you believe Fox and random tweets as “news” since when yronic? oh yeah, you're an idiot
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Since the times you did that the “MODS” don’t want me to mention, but it’s all in our post histories 
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Death to the mods. Death to capitalism.
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self unaware posted:Claiming that concepts like capitalism, neoliberalism, or racism don't exist is pretty much badlib 101. Granted, it's rare to see someone go for all three but yronic is something special. Nice hot take NFS
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yronic heroism posted:Since the times you did that the MODS don’t want me to mention, but it’s all in our post histories try again idiot
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Is there a cheat sheet for those of us who don't keep up with stupid forum drama to know which of you is which person I have already put on ignore? When you rereg if you could also red-text yourself that would be much appreciated.
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For too long the posting proletariat has suffered under the heel of the bourgeois admins and their mod lackeys. Take back your power brothers! Seize the means of posting! In this metaphor Lowtax is Princess Anastasia.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I get that yronic is too dumb to understand the definition of concepts like capitalism, but it's some next level poo poo to brag about your ignorance like this. Post your definition or stfu. We need to keep track of that along with RG’s def and LK’s def. Condiv posted:try again idiot No idiot no idiot you’re the idiot
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Rent-A-Cop posted:For too long the posting proletariat has suffered under the heel of the bourgeois admins and their mod lackeys. Take back your power brothers! Seize the means of posting! The memes of production will be ours, comrade! Posters of the forums unite! You have nothing to lose but your 
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HootTheOwl posted:Is there a cheat sheet for those of us who don't keep up with stupid forum drama to know which of you is which person I have already put on ignore? https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=135993 Also just see any NewForumSoftware post and remember self unaware reregged the same day.
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yronic heroism posted:No idiot no idiot you’re the idiot  this is very apropos considering how idiotic you are on the regit's just like when trump tried to deny he was a russian puppet 
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Condiv posted:
“Wait I totally understood that reference (and then felt the need to post because I didn’t get my daily validation from a mime)”
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yronic heroism posted:“Wait I totally understood that reference (and then felt the need to post because I didn’t get my daily validation from a mime)” so this is really as far as you've come in the past few months of posting? still being idiotic and boring like before but with posting falsifiable bullshit about other posters from time to time added? pretty sad yronic
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R. Guyovich posted:socialist countries: cuba, dprk, laos, prc, vietnam, nepal....? I’m not really sure I agree with most of these, several of them are either state capitalist or have liberalized since the fall of the Soviet Union. Vietnam and Cuba are arguable, but the DPRK is much closer to feudalism than socialism. I dunno anything about Nepal, though.
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Lol if you think Kim does not own any of the means of production
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Lightning Knight posted:I’m not really sure I agree with most of these, several of them are either state capitalist or have liberalized since the fall of the Soviet Union. Vietnam and Cuba are arguable, but the DPRK is much closer to feudalism than socialism. Nepal's a weird case, since it's a multi-party parliamentary democracy, and parties frequently have to form coalitions. The current ruling party is center-left, but the Maoists have led the government a bunch of times over the past couple decades.
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Condiv posted:so this is really as far as you've come in the past few months of posting? still being idiotic and boring like before but with posting falsifiable bullshit about other posters from time to time added? pretty sad yronic  condiv needs attention! Quick someone ask why Bernie hates reparations...
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