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It most certainly is. The Equalizer is kind of a low rent American Ultra but Denzel is charismatic enough as usual to make it worth a watch on Netflix.
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Sinding Johansson posted:It most certainly is. The Equalizer is kind of a low rent American Ultra but Denzel is charismatic enough as usual to make it worth a watch on Netflix. American Ultra is a low-rent American Ultra.
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American Ultra was great except for like the last 3 minutes which are ok if you like unhappy endings.
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Brother Entropy posted:'sidekick' has a connotation of not being the main protagonist, it'd be like calling luke or anakin sidekicks to obi-wan He's the Jack Burton of the film. A cocky comic relief character who doesn't know what he's doing and is constantly in over his head
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Black Panther isn't really revolutionary for being the first black superhero movie; as mentioned, there's been a shitload. It's noteworthy because it's being pushed exactly as hard as the superhero movies starring white people. The other examples mentioned are either very tenuously superhero movies or... weren't really taken seriously, to say the least.
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It seems revolutionary that a big studio is making a movie with a mostly black cast that will be a blockbuster instead of being a limited run in select theaters.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Black Panther isn't really revolutionary for being the first black superhero movie; as mentioned, there's been a shitload. It's noteworthy because it's being pushed exactly as hard as the superhero movies starring white people. The other examples mentioned are either very tenuously superhero movies or... weren't really taken seriously, to say the least. Right; the same was the case with Wonder Woman. The ‘revolutionary’ novelty is that the film is being promoted to white men.
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Can't wait for Batman to become the Leader of the DC Movie Universe Leader.
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Gonz posted:Can't wait for Batman to become the Leader of the DC Movie Universe Leader. Who will be the leader of the leader of the dc movie universe leader? Zack Snyder 
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Jimbot posted:Who will be the leader of the leader of the dc movie universe leader? Wes Anderson
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i suppose it falls under the 'on the run from the law' clause, but also Hancock
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ungulateman posted:i suppose it falls under the 'on the run from the law' clause, but also Hancock Also The Matrix. And then we have, like, every X-Men film (or does Storm count as a sidekick?). The trouble is not only that the claim is inaccurate, but also that the criteria are weirdly over-specific.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The trouble is not only that the claim is inaccurate, but also that the criteria are weirdly over-specific. I'm reminded of how puzzled I felt reading about Wonder Woman being the first major female-led superhero movie, as if my girls Bella and Katniss hadn't been the leads of some fantastic and wildly successful films within super-recent memory
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The revolution in Black Panther is against T'Challa for wanting to drag Wakanda into the modern era and open it's doors to other people's and countries. Gold Jaguar is a traditionalist who wants to overthrow the new leader and keep things exactly how they are. At no point does anyone go to America.
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Jenny Angel posted:I'm reminded of how puzzled I felt reading about Wonder Woman being the first major female-led superhero movie, as if my girls Bella and Katniss hadn't been the leads of some fantastic and wildly successful films within super-recent memory YA is a genre which is predominantly female, no one expected anything else for those movie series.
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PriorMarcus posted:The revolution in Black Panther is against T'Challa for wanting to drag Wakanda into the modern era and open it's doors to other people's and countries. Gold Jaguar is a traditionalist who wants to overthrow the new leader and keep things exactly how they are. Globalist! SOROS is the real marvel villain!
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Yeah, YA has a non-embarassing level of diversity to begin with, it's not like superhero comics where they've barely risen above the level of skateboardpowers.txt almost three decades later and Marvel's CEO is terrified of looking upon G. Willow Wilson lest she turn to dust before his very eyes. Like, it's objectively good that there will finally be a non-white lead in a Marvel movie. But "Hereditary Monarch from The Lost World" is kinda regressive even on its own terms (a fuckin Monarch?), before you get to the fact that it's a mash-up of early 20th Century tropes about Africa and the name of a revolutionary socialist party. That was probably uncomfortable at the time, now it's just bizarre.
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Okay I went and looked through a whole bunch of articles about the Black Panther movie and interviews with the cast and others and the word that kept popping up repeatedly was "groundbreaking". The phrases "unprecedented predominantly black cast" and "first black superhero in mainstream [American] comic books" also kept occurring fairly often. Like, really really often. Almost as often as "70s spy film" came up in articles about Winter Soldier.  There's also this article from Rolling Stone titled Black Superheroes Matter: Why a 'Black Panther' Movie Is Revolutionary that actually goes into detail over the question but there's also a whole bunch of other articles that vaguely frame the film as being revolutionary without really explaining how or why. There really is a lot of chatter online about the film being revolutionary but they usually don't go into any details, it's like they assume it's just a given. I'm pretty sure that many of them just latched onto the word because they heard it in the song in the trailer. josh04 posted:Like, it's objectively good that there will finally be a non-white lead in a Marvel movie. But "Hereditary Monarch from The Lost World" is kinda regressive even on its own terms (a fuckin Monarch?), before you get to the fact that it's a mash-up of early 20th Century tropes about Africa and the name of a revolutionary socialist party. That was probably uncomfortable at the time, now it's just bizarre. I posted earlier about how Wonder Woman's movie plot/origin was weirdly similar to Black Panther (royalty from a hidden kingdom, etc) and it occurred to me that they were taking great steps to frame each hero as an Other. That doesn't really happen all that much in other superhero movies - even an actual alien like Superman got an origin where he was raised in Kansas. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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Man I remember Blankman and Meteor Man. I used to rent those movies all the time from the video store, but I haven't watched them in like 15 years now. Probably worth another rewatch, right?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:
MoS and BvS went to great lengths to portray Superman as something otherwordly. Yeah, he was raised in Kansas, but it was very clear he never fit in with the locals, and has always been a loner.
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McCloud posted:MoS and BvS went to great lengths to portray Superman as something otherwordly. Yeah, he was raised in Kansas, but it was very clear he never fit in with the locals, and has always been a loner. Yeah but he struggled to understand his powers and his potential role from a human perspective. Plus "never fit in" and "loner" doesn't actually make him Other, we all know people like that. They're very relatable traits.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:
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I hope it goes through or not.
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Seems like a reputable source.
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I was just wondering if Affleck would become the Leader of the DC movie universe Leader.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Black Panther isn't really revolutionary for being the first black superhero movie; as mentioned, there's been a shitload. It's noteworthy because it's being pushed exactly as hard as the superhero movies starring white people. The other examples mentioned are either very tenuously superhero movies or... weren't really taken seriously, to say the least. SuperMechagodzilla posted:Right; the same was the case with Wonder Woman. The ‘revolutionary’ novelty is that the film is being promoted to white men. Once again, the qualifying criteria becomes "marketing". Everything the Marvel films excel at and venerate revolve around being marketed very, very well, and that's basically it. Serf posted:Man I remember Blankman and Meteor Man. I used to rent those movies all the time from the video store, but I haven't watched them in like 15 years now. Probably worth another rewatch, right? Blankman kicks rear end and is a lot darker and heavier than I remembered it being as a kid, Meteor Man is more fun for all the cameos.
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PriorMarcus posted:The revolution in Black Panther is against T'Challa for wanting to drag Wakanda into the modern era and open it's doors to other people's and countries. Gold Jaguar is a traditionalist who wants to overthrow the new leader and keep things exactly how they are. 'drag into the modern era' is a weird phrase to pull for a nation explicitly more advanced than the rest of the world
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Mameluke posted:This sounds less like the Man of Steel meets Gotham pastiche that was first rumoured. Off topic but what is your av from? i know it's a music video but who is she and what's it called?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Blankman kicks rear end and is a lot darker and heavier than I remembered it being as a kid, Meteor Man is more fun for all the cameos. Meteor Man marked the first time my family had a theater all to ourselves. Mom initially hushed us but gave up, and by the time the catwalk confrontation happened I was in love. Don't know if it would hold up well, but I also kinda want to keep my experience totally intact.
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I mean Black Panther is almost certain to be the highest grossing movie featuring a predominantly black cast ever. I think. Maybe that's what people are excited about?
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Yeah and like, Black Panther and A Wrinkle in Time are also probably some of the first films where a black director/cast have been granted a budget of that size. It’s also a matter of resources, not just marketing.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Off topic but what is your av from? i know it's a music video but who is she and what's it called? Grimes
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got any sevens posted:Grimes Ahh you star! thank you!
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Aladdin posted:Yeah and like, Black Panther and A Wrinkle in Time are also probably some of the first films where a black director/cast have been granted a budget of that size. It’s also a matter of resources, not just marketing. I only ever really find the budget of a movie impressive if it's really low.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Once again, the qualifying criteria becomes "marketing". Everything the Marvel films excel at and venerate revolve around being marketed very, very well, and that's basically it. I mean... yeah. These aren't things that are necessarily meaningful for the quality of the movie, but they're meaningful for the state of the film industry- black actors and directors are finally being given access to "the big time," the same way white actors and directors have been. Black Panther doing well could cause an actual, meaningful sea change regarding the racism that Hollywood has historically exhibited; it won't end racism, but it'll certainly be a step in the correct direction. Obviously if you think Hollywood as a concept is inherently fatally flawed, this doesn't really mean anything, but a lot of folks don't see it that way and are really loving excited about this.
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When are we going to get a Latinx blockbuster? And what superhero would that be?
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Miles Morales in the Spider-man animated one
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They could do a sequel to Logan, with his daughter a decade later or w/e
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Nasgate posted:When are we going to get a Latinx blockbuster? And what superhero would that be? Desperado
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