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Louis xiv had the uncanny gift to always do the worst possible thing at the worst possible time, even though the dude obviously wasn't megalomaniacal and just did what he felt was right, problem was he was king at a time France needed a strong and decisive leader who could unite the various factions and push forward and instead he was... Louis XIV
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Anyone watching the new history channel show Knightfall?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 03:11 |
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I do have my doubts as to how great Sun King Lu really was, seeing as how inept his grandson was, as well as how little structural/bureaucratic systems his grandson had to fall back on. Maybe it was one of those things where a smart, fully capable person has no idea that he'd be dead one day and only ever shut down people who would limit his power with such safeguards.nothing to seehere posted:There's the theory about "advantages of backwardness" here. France and Spain are prosperous enough they never need to focus on doing revenue generation properly, and suffer for it later - Britain and Prussia, have less natural resources, so they get better at squeezing what they have when eventually pays off. Of course, this doesn't fit every case ( the Dutch). Hell, you could say the English had even more trouble with taxation, seeing as how when they were trying to pay off their debt from the seven years' war, they decided to make the jerks who started the whole thing it pay for it, but then that started a whole nother war. And this is a century after they had their whole thing with a king blatantly doing illegal taxes.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 03:17 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I do have my doubts as to how great Sun King Lu really was, seeing as how inept his grandson was, as well as how little structural/bureaucratic systems his grandson had to fall back on. Maybe it was one of those things where a smart, fully capable person has no idea that he'd be dead one day and only ever shut down people who would limit his power with such safeguards.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 03:29 |
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Hegel who was that early modern Italian woman who was a military theorist and, I think, a writer, maybe with an eyepatch but I might be misremembering. The Italian one not the french woman who kept beating guys in duels because she kept stealing their girlfriends. I need this for a discussion on the ninja turtles, tia.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 03:35 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:With our newsfeeds eternally spamming us with algorithm dictated content, it shouldn't surprise you that I came across an article in Wired talking about the Rebellion's military mistakes [spoilery for those who care] Honestly I was amazed that the rebels took that long to realize that hyperdrive basically makes all other weapons obsolete and Im amazed people dont do that more. Like they could have just hyperdrived a fighter into the death star and solved that easily.
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Telsa Cola posted:Honestly I was amazed that the rebels took that long to realize that hyperdrive basically makes all other weapons obsolete and Im amazed people dont do that more. Like they could have just hyperdrived a fighter into the death star and solved that easily. While I haven't seen the newer movies (due to not getting around to them), the pre-Disney canon explicitly stated that that is a physical impossibility.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 04:56 |
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Gnoman posted:While I haven't seen the newer movies (due to not getting around to them), the pre-Disney canon explicitly stated that that is a physical impossibility. Well they do it.
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If it happens in the Disney films, than them not doing so becomes a case of a sequel-induced plot hole. Before they axed the old EU, there was an explanation in place.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 05:08 |
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golden bubble posted:Revolutionary France loved to flip their poo poo every time they had a setback during the War of the First Coalition. A common failing of many revolutions. It's sort of unavoidable because when you are rewriting all the rules that govern society, it's not hard for everything you're doing to be erased. Thucydides had some amazing lines on the struggle of the Corcyreans against their oligarchs. You could take a great many of his lines apply them practically verbatim to many Cold War era conflicts. as well as Revolutionary France. Thucydides: III posted:The Corcyraeans, made aware of the approach of the Athenian fleet and of the departure of the enemy, brought the Messenians from outside the walls into the town, and ordered the fleet which they had manned to sail round into the Hyllaic harbour; and while it was so doing, slew such of their enemies as they laid hands on, dispatching afterwards, as they landed them, those whom they had persuaded to go on board the ships. Next they went to the sanctuary of Hera and persuaded about fifty men to take their trial, and condemned them all to death. The mass of the suppliants who had refused to do so, on seeing what was taking place, slew each other there in the consecrated ground; while some hanged themselves upon the trees, and others destroyed themselves as they were severally able. During seven days that Eurymedon stayed with his sixty ships, the Corcyraeans were engaged in butchering those of their fellow citizens whom they regarded as their enemies: and although the crime imputed was that of attempting to put down the democracy, some were slain also for private hatred, others by their debtors because of the moneys owed to them. Death thus raged in every shape; and, as usually happens at such times, there was no length to which violence did not go; sons were killed by their fathers, and suppliants dragged from the altar or slain upon it; while some were even walled up in the temple of Dionysus and died there. This passage is somewhat unusual for Thucydides who generally strictly sticks to just the facts and the events of the Peloponnesian War. Here however he seems to lose his composure for a moment and slips into general and despairing statements about the nature of all men, and rather than putting the words in the mouth of participant in the revolution says them himself. I suspect this section is to some extent a reaction to the 30 Tyrants who seized Thucydides' city in the aftermath of the Peloponesian war and whose bloody oligarchical revolution was characterized by all the vices he describes herein, as would be most future revolutions. By the most common accounts of his life Thucydides died several years after the fall of their regime, and thus it would have loomed large in his mind when when he was composing his work.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 05:35 |
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Tunicate posted:He did two of those articles Or this, https://angrystaffofficer.com/2017/11/21/i-didnt-know/ That's a bunch of assholes who need DDs right quick.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 06:12 |
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Someone posted this in the Historical wargaming thread:Frobbe posted:
Which set me wondering - How serious were the proposals for the Ratte and Monster? The patent absurdity of those proposals should have been immediately apparent, yet they seem to have gained some traction within the Nazi Military-Industrial complex, floating around for a year before Albert Speer presumably muttered "what the ever loving gently caress is this bullshit" and ripped them up. Did anyone seriously think they were ever going to: 1) Manage to get these things operational 2) Have the resources to build even one 3) Not have them immediately immobilized by artillery or air strikes? What was going on? The traditional explanation that gets floated around the internet is "meth is a hell of a drug". It can't be that simplistic, can it?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 11:36 |
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Maybe their designers had experience with railroad guns, ships or other massive projects and thought that that would be the sweet scale?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 11:58 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I do have my doubts as to how great Sun King Lu really was, seeing as how inept his grandson was, as well as how little structural/bureaucratic systems his grandson had to fall back on. Maybe it was one of those things where a smart, fully capable person has no idea that he'd be dead one day and only ever shut down people who would limit his power with such safeguards. Not really, French and Indian War still a sideshow compared to the Continent. Also, taxes approved by the King-in-Parliament are legal by definition in Britain and its colonies. Parliament is sovereign. That's where new law comes from. The whole problem with Charles I was because he tried to sidestep that.
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What even is the "monster"? Was that a thing nazi engineers actually theorized about? Alchenar posted:The French revolution is an enormously complicated historical event the causes of which can nevertheless be reduced to 'France never worked out how to tax the people who actually had money'. The way americans refuse to understand that universal income taxes are a critical part of a dignified, non-feudal society never cease to amaze( and depress ) me. golden bubble posted:Well first you have to be in Paris, the Vendée, Lyon, Toulon, Marseille, or Bordeaux. The terror didn't really do much outside of those regions. The guillotine was a response to the continuing food crisis and the defeats of the French revolutionary armies. If you are in any way suspected of raising grain prices, counter-revolutionary ideas (being an aristocrat is almost the same as being counter-revolutionary in those times), clericalism, speaking out against the government, or being related to French military defeats (the levée-en-masse cannot fail, it can only be failed), you could be arrested. Strange as it is, you could be arrested and guillotined for being too far left for the government, like Jacques Hébert. But you have to remember that this is the same revolution that saw the September Massacres. That is to say, when a Prussian army took Verdun, the Parisians did not believe this was the result of Prussian military prowess, but of traitors inside France. So to save the city, a mob lynched every single prisoner in all the Paris prisons to prevent them from joining any royalist armies. Revolutionary France loved to flip their poo poo every time they had a setback during the War of the First Coalition. Thanks a lot fam! I knew.. almost none of this. I thought it was just nobles straight up building their own biedermeier village to frolic in, which, unlike actual French villages outside Paris, had food in it.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 12:29 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I do have my doubts as to how great Sun King Lu really was, seeing as how inept his grandson was, as well as how little structural/bureaucratic systems his grandson had to fall back on. Maybe it was one of those things where a smart, fully capable person has no idea that he'd be dead one day
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Milo and POTUS posted:Hegel who was that early modern Italian woman who was a military theorist and, I think, a writer, maybe with an eyepatch but I might be misremembering. The Italian one not the french woman who kept beating guys in duels because she kept stealing their girlfriends. I need this for a discussion on the ninja turtles, tia. arrested for treason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_de_Mendoza,_Princess_of_Eboli
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 12:48 |
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HEY GUNS posted:ana mendoza princess of eboli. spanish not italian, badass not military theorist Def awesome but I could have swore there was some Italian lady with some Mil Theory chops
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 12:53 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Def awesome but I could have swore there was some Italian lady with some Mil Theory chops caterina sforza was a military leader but not a military theorist ???
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HEY GUNS posted:christine of pisan was a military theorist but she's french Probably mistook Pisan for Pisa. I'll have you know anybody could make that mistake :P
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Tias posted:What even is the "monster"? Was that a thing nazi engineers actually theorized about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster Basically a Schwerer Gustaf 800mm railway gun minus the railway. A self-propelled 800mm gun.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Probably mistook Pisan for Pisa. I'll have you know anybody could make that mistake :P She eqs born in Venice. Her father was from Pizzano, near Bologna, hence the name. When she was a kid, her father took a job as astrologer and physician to the King of France. She started writing in order to support herself, her mom and her kids after her husband died.
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Epicurius posted:She eqs born in Venice. Her father was from Pizzano, near Bologna, hence the name. When she was a kid, her father took a job as astrologer and physician to the King of France. She started writing in order to support herself, her mom and her kids after her husband died. thanks bro!
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13th KRRC War Diary, 22nd Dec 1917 posted:Baths were allotted to the Battalion from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. the whole Battalion had a hot bath and change of underclothing. A hot bath? Fancy!
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Geisladisk posted:Someone posted this in the Historical wargaming thread: Similar ideas were floated in Allied nations as well. I particularly like a Canadian equivalent that only had ~160 mm of armour.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Similar ideas were floated in Allied nations as well. I particularly like a Canadian equivalent that only had ~160 mm of armour. You can't just tease me like that without giving me any juicy deets.
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Gnoman posted:If it happens in the Disney films, than them not doing so becomes a case of a sequel-induced plot hole. Before they axed the old EU, there was an explanation in place. I'm happy to have a plot hole instead of space otter sex. E: and space bug sex
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 16:38 |
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Geisladisk posted:Someone posted this in the Historical wargaming thread: 1) No 2) Yes, but it would have taken a lot of time and not been useful in any way 3) Nope Basically they kept going with literal WONDER WEAPON design to the point of being absolutely absurd. There was no way they, the RATTE and MONSTER, could ever be built and survive in times of Allied air superiority, not to mention that the logistics it would require and speed at which it could deploy would make it useless from the get-go.
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Geisladisk posted:You can't just tease me like that without giving me any juicy deets. I was mistaken, it was actually 5 inches of armour. Also: http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2017/11/canadian-super-tank.html
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:00 |
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What if the Maus had three anti-air guns atop it as well as a GTAM platform
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:06 |
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Plutonis posted:What if the Maus had three anti-air guns atop it as well as a GTAM platform A few AA guns would be nothing but a minor nuisance to any Allied air attacks. You'd have whole squadrons of B-26s pounding the ever loving poo poo out of it.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:18 |
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What if you built a big trampoline on top of it so that the bombs bounced up and blew up all the planes instead
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:21 |
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Geisladisk posted:What was going on? The traditional explanation that gets floated around the internet is "meth is a hell of a drug". It can't be that simplistic, can it? The first are super-heavy tanks like the Maus, where it was clear that tank warfare was trending towards very heavy tanks with large caliber, high velocity guns, but it wasn't yet clear at what point you hit diminishing returns. Everyone played around with this idea and quickly discovered that they had reached that point. The second is the giant self propelled gun idea, like the Monster. These are still crazy, but crazy like a fox if you don't know ahead of time how rapidly guided rocketry and mobile launchers are going to advance. Large siege guns were extremely useful in both world wars, but transport was a pain in the rear end. Railway guns were a help there, but they were naturally restricted in movement and placement. Putting a railway gun on some sort of tank/crawler chassis makes a lot of sense from that point of view. You aren't trying to move it quickly, you're just trying to reduce the logistical overhead and expand the areas you can operate it in. You're still looking at a large scale operation to shift it around, like when they move giant mining equipment or when NASA's crawlers haul a rocket out to the launch pad. If it hadn't so quickly become clear that things like the SCUD were going to be a better option, one of the super powers probably would have built a giant self-propelled artillery piece eventually. The third, for things like the Ratte... Well, meth is a hell of a drug. Okay to be fair, there is a sliver of a decent idea even there. It's an extension of the thinking that leads to the Maus, coupled with the fact that everyone had a class of very large guns already fully developed - naval cannons. Mounting a powerful weapon you already knew worked into a super-heavy tank as spearhead for big armor battles like Kursk wouldn't necessarily peg as bonkers at first glance, though it was pretty out there. Something that could carry two and had a garage for it's own scout vehicles, though... That was always absurd no matter which way you looked at it. Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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After the rather ineffective performance of the Karl mortars, it's hard to think "we need this but bigger".
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 18:40 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:After the rather ineffective performance of the Karl mortars, it's hard to think "we need this but bigger". A long human tradition, really.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 18:52 |
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A few months ago I finished a 1/144 Ratte tank, and I've been thinking about it, off and on, ever since. I understand it's kinda dumb to use rationality to criticize it anyway, but I have a few thoughts if anybody wants to bat 'em around.
Anyway, not a lot suprise there - lots of flaws. For some reason, I've been daydreaming how to overcome those flaws:
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PS> OOOh, what if we gave this super Ratte an internal refrigeration system so it could fill damaged parts of its structure with Pykrete blocks?! Eh? Eh?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 19:33 |
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Growable supplementry Pykrete armor for soaking up damage when needed
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 19:36 |
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So, HEY GUNS, we're thinking of making a moble pykrete star fort, what can you tell us
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How Nazi were the designers of the Ratte actually? What if the whole thing was just an elaborate plan to tie up as much resources as possible as a way to undermine the Nazi war effort?
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