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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

MrChips posted:

Somewhere out at Groom Lake, some secret squirrel test or operational squadron is showing that video up in their ready room and pissing themselves laughing.

Frankly it's probably #4 who was delayed on the ground and the rest of the division forgot about him.

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Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

D C posted:

You've clearly never been around a film crew. Tape and plastic, instant weatherproofing. That was before we ripped a hole for the lens element and taped that too.
Everyone's always shocked that sets and props from their favorite old films weren't preserved, and have to be painstakingly recreated for the current craze of remakes, reboots, and sequels. Unless you've been on a film set, and realize all that poo poo was held together with duct tape, hope, and profanity just long enough to shoot the necessary scenes before it all collapsed.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Bulk order: Aviation Photography

Japan:

























Not quite sure. It looks like a Ju 88, but the background (especially a Navy Corsair) escorting it makes me think it might be a Japanese version?

E:




Germany









UK/Commonwealth















France





USA








Good name:













Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Dec 23, 2017

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull

I'm forced to reconsider the wisdom of trying to get my US Navy built Argus clone going:

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

Nebakenezzer posted:

Bulk order: Aviation Photography

UK/Commonwealth




Bloody hell:


quote:

A number of aircraft were lost off Albion's bows and Lt. B. D. Macfarlane made history on 13 October 1954[7] when he successfully ejected from under water after his aircraft had ditched on launch and been cut in two by the carrier.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Lobster God posted:

Bloody hell:

This seems to tie into previous comments, as he ejected at a negative altitude

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

If you want, here is a very large cutaway illustration of the USS Yorktown.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

So guys, I've been posting a multipart series on air transports of World War 2 over at the milhist thread.
They are mostly quick and dirty posts, and repeat some stuff that I've already gone on a fair bit around here. This post though, is pretty good (IMO) as it talks about the airplanes the Nazis designed to replace the Ju 52 - the Ju 252, the Ju 352, and the Ar 232. So far I've just done the Germans, but hope to do all sides. So far I've learned that the Germans did a hell of a lot of improvisation around air transports, doing some weird and innovative thigns with gliders, because (spiler alert) they didn't really have the resources of their enemies.

German Glider (DFS-250.)









"Now guys, make it look like a stock photo of a glider assault!"



Fw 189:





Hs 129:









Really rare North Africa shot:



Cockpit armor dictated the sight be placed outside the cockpit:



I **think** this is a early load-out with 20mm cannons:





He 219:







Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006



This is awesome, thanks.

HawkHill
Aug 15, 2015

Wingnut Ninja posted:

I, too, have had a radar start generating a bunch of insane returns. However, my reaction was less "holy poo poo, it's aliens" and more "gently caress, I need to reset the detector processor".

My absolute favorite part of UFO stories is how people treat radar systems as this utterly infallible truth data, as opposed to an antiquated computer system doing its best effort to decipher a ridiculous mishmash of EM signals bouncing all over the place.

Yeah I don't do this for a living but we're not talking about a single person looking at a short term event and going hmmmm.

The claim is that this was going on for days. So we're talking about multiple individuals at multiple levels. I've got to guess that at the very least that the senior people have enough experience to know how to debug this kind of thing.

How convinced do how many people have to be before making a potentially career limiting call to have this checked out by the pilots?

I'm absolutely not saying that I believe that a bunch of ETs are playing tag with us. That strikes me as unreasonable for many reasons. What's interesting to me is how did this happen and what exactly was 'this' anyway?

HawkHill fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Dec 23, 2017

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat
ok internet detectives. My girlfriend left Colombo sometime after 1am AEDT today (23/12) flying to Melbourne. It's an emergency and shes rushed back. Can anyone smarter than me tell me what flight she's likely to be on? I just wanna make sure it and she get in safe. It's been a gently caress of a month and I am just waiting for the next thing to go wrong.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

slothrop posted:

ok internet detectives. My girlfriend left Colombo sometime after 1am AEDT today (23/12) flying to Melbourne. It's an emergency and shes rushed back. Can anyone smarter than me tell me what flight she's likely to be on? I just wanna make sure it and she get in safe. It's been a gently caress of a month and I am just waiting for the next thing to go wrong.

Seatching "CMB to MEL" on Google shows one flight available. SriLankan UL 604. I don't know if that's the only one, but it's a place to start.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Mar 23, 2021

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat

sincx posted:

If you know for sure she left after 1 AM, it's probably one of these 3 possibilities. These are schedules for tomorrow, but it should generally be the same every day.



Thanks. At least I know not to start stressing for a couple of hours yet. I'm sure everything will be fine.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

HawkHill posted:

Yeah I don't do this for a living but we're not talking about a single person looking at a short term event and going hmmmm.

The claim is that this was going on for days. So we're talking about multiple individuals at multiple levels. I've got to guess that at the very least that the senior people have enough experience to know how to debug this kind of thing.

We're talking about a single Popular Mechanics article that relies on Above Top Secret as a source. The conversation could easily end right there. I have serious misgivings about the after action report that's included in the article.

HawkHill
Aug 15, 2015

Godholio posted:

We're talking about a single Popular Mechanics article that relies on Above Top Secret as a source. The conversation could easily end right there. I have serious misgivings about the after action report that's included in the article.


Pilot interviewed by CNN reporter four days ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/us/pilot-david-fravor-ufo-jim-sciutto-outfront-cnntv/index.html

CNN, Fake News, So Sad.

But seriously, what are your concerns?

The Navy doesn't dispute the report.

I'm concerned that we've got fleet defense systems (hardware, software, and wetware) that can spend days tracking utterly bogus Foo Fighters, scrambling crews to go look at them, and the crews come back and tell us they're seeing things.

HawkHill fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Dec 23, 2017

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

This is a level headed write up on the video
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/pentagon-ufo-video/

Also have a new term in my vocabulary - Blobsquatch

HawkHill
Aug 15, 2015

slidebite posted:

This is a level headed write up on the video
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/pentagon-ufo-video/

Also have a new term in my vocabulary - Blobsquatch

I think we all agree that the video isn't very helpful but I don't see how this blog posting helps either.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

I was a really hoping we were in the control group. :negative:

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

HawkHill posted:

I think we all agree that the video isn't very helpful but I don't see how this blog posting helps either.
I think it's just a nice summary of why it isn't believable on its face. Yes, pretty much preaching to the choir here.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

Nebakenezzer posted:


Not quite sure. It looks like a Ju 88, but the background (especially a Navy Corsair) escorting it makes me think it might be a Japanese version?

Kyushu Q1W Tokai.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_Q1W

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Godholio posted:

We're talking about a single Popular Mechanics article that relies on Above Top Secret as a source.

Oh wow, it's almost a chicken and egg thing between those two. I used to be a member of ATS for laughs at some of the utter bullshit 'weekly world news' tier stories people were coming up with. Then one day ATS said they were going to camp out at Area 51 and live stream with a special guest (this was when live streaming was kind of a big web 2.0 deal).

Turns out the special guest was the british singer 'Robbie Williams'. That explained why his career had disapeared.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

HawkHill posted:

Pilot interviewed by CNN reporter four days ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/us/pilot-david-fravor-ufo-jim-sciutto-outfront-cnntv/index.html

CNN, Fake News, So Sad.

But seriously, what are your concerns?

The Navy doesn't dispute the report.

I'm concerned that we've got fleet defense systems (hardware, software, and wetware) that can spend days tracking utterly bogus Foo Fighters, scrambling crews to go look at them, and the crews come back and tell us they're seeing things.

Some of my concerns are that such reports are classified (which is also why the Navy WOULD NOT comment on it one way or the other), and it also uses some terminology incorrectly and doesn't read like any modern after action report I've read or written. 2004 or whatever wasn't that long ago, and I was writing them within a year of that. I could be wrong, but it just feels like something written to sound like a military report.

Regarding the current case...it's almost certainly nothing of interest. If it were serious, these guys wouldn't be on loving CNN. Their pod video would not have been declassified (it is inherently classified and must be manually downgraded). The only way I get mildly interested is if they get prosecuted for :filez:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Humphreys posted:


Turns out the special guest was the british singer 'Robbie Williams'. That explained why his career had disapeared.
:rudebox:

R-Type
Oct 10, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Looks like a typical floating malignant tumor to me

(in the game World of Warships, carriers are known as Sky Cancer)

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

R-Type posted:

Looks like a typical floating malignant tumor to me

(in the game World of Warships, carriers are known as Sky Cancer)

Is there a specific reason or is the headline "People who like battleships dislike carriers: report"


Ah, good. Thanks.

Canadian Fury! On...



Canada's early 1950s carrier, HMS Majestic HMCS Magnificent.

















Watch where you walk, nublet



Fearful asymmetry:







Well, first we build these things in salt mines!



Then, we get the Hitler Youth to fly 'em!



WW2 aircraft: usually dirty as gently caress



The Cross is Green to mark this as a IJN aircraft flying for surrender purposes.



They were usually also painted white for help in keeping mistakes from happening, don't know why they stopped in this case, maybe they ran out of paint.



Ark Royal:





Dinah! (Well one of them is)









"Harvard, men, eh? *spits*"



This is the interior of...a PBY?



This odd looking aircraft is a modified Lancaster in some Canadian doings







Your model is swank, son

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 24, 2017

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Nebakenezzer posted:


This odd looking aircraft is a modified Lancaster in some Canadian doings








This is an Avro Lancastrian, the passenger/mail version of the Lancaster.

While it was reasonably fast and had good payload and range, like most bomber to passenger conversions, it was pretty useless.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
High altitude saturation mail bombing.

Viktor
Nov 12, 2005

Only delivered overnight packages.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
"Sir, your air delivery seems to be aflame and is engulfing the town"

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

China now has the world's largest type of amphibious aircraft.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Nebakenezzer posted:


Canada's early 1950s carrier, HMS Majestic.




Majestic was sold to Australia while still in-build. So this will be HMCS Magnificent, of the same class. Canada had originally negotiated the lease-with-option-of-purchase of the older Colossus-class carrier Warrior but she was built for Pacific service and had virtually no internal heating system, which made things rather uncomfortable on a ship based at Halifax. She was returned in 1948 when her lease expired and 'Maggie' became the RCN's only carrier. Warrior was used by the RN in the Far East before (still without heating) she was sold to Argentina, where she kept freezing sailors until 1971.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Huh. Neat. I didn't realize Australia ever had a plane capable aircraft carrier. I know we have/had helicopter carriers but didn't realize we ever had one for planes.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Most people in Canada don’t know that we had an aircraft carrier up until 1970 and it operated Sea King helicopters which are still in service today. Also jets!

Not sure if actual airframes that flew off the Bonaventure are still in service but that would be pretty wild.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

priznat posted:

Most people in Canada don’t know that we had an aircraft carrier up until 1970 and it operated Sea King helicopters which are still in service today. Also jets!

Not sure if actual airframes that flew off the Bonaventure are still in service but that would be pretty wild.

The Banshees retired in 1962 before the carrier itself did (relegating it to ASW duties), the CS2Fs retired in 1990 (but were kept in semi-active service until the late 1990s) and the Sea Kings are, well, still flying of a fashion.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

A Google search reveals that Australia has had a rather more extensive aircraft carrier history than I'd realized.

HMAS Melbourne carried jets for Australia up until the early 80s and had the dubious honor of being involved in not one, but two horribly fatal collisions with Australian and American ships which make the recent US Navy fuckups look tame in comparison.

:australia:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

MrChips posted:

The Banshees retired in 1962 before the carrier itself did (relegating it to ASW duties), the CS2Fs retired in 1990 (but were kept in semi-active service until the late 1990s) and the Sea Kings are, well, still flying of a fashion.

Did they never fly any banshees off it? I could have sworn I saw a grainy video of that but perhaps it was another similar vintage carrier. Even for just training or whatever.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

priznat posted:

Did they never fly any banshees off it? I could have sworn I saw a grainy video of that but perhaps it was another similar vintage carrier. Even for just training or whatever.

They sure did, but it was a rather short-lived operation; we bought them second-hand in 1955, but after a pretty appalling series of accidents and structural failures, plus the fact that the RCN reoriented itself toward anti-submarine warfare, meant that the F2Hs were retired not long after we bought them. According to the Wiki article at least, the Bonaventure wasn't large enough to carry enough CS2Fs for round the clock patrols and Banshees at the same time, so the Banshees were often left at port anyway.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
RCN/RCAF : A proud history of making do.

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Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

priznat posted:

RCN/RCAF : A proud history of making do.

Yeah, reading wikipedia after Balloonfish's correction, I didn't realize both of Canada's carriers were designed to have a three year service life, and like the Flower class Corvettes, they were designed to be built at a civilian shipyard.

The Bonaventure did pretty well, all things considered.

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