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SirPhoebos posted:So is there any connection between the Machine Lifeforms and the Watchers? We see hints of connections (Eve's tattoo, N2 in general), but Jackass's notes don't make any mention of any ties besides the stuff from Project Gestalt. That's what I was kinda thinking with my theory about a potential Nier 3 earlier. Like, what if the remnants of humanity and the Gestalt Project become the Watchers (aka the Grotesqueries aka cannibal space babies)?
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Dec 26, 2017 20:20
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The way I took it, even if we aren't getting explicit giant babies and pregnant women, the Watchers still had a role to play in all this. Like the humans evolving to use technology to remove their own souls, the Watchers simply adapted to the new environment by showing up as a computer virus instead of the White Chlorination Syndrome.
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Dec 26, 2017 20:48
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Or maybe this is the origin of The Watchers in some kind of insane closed loop. Technology became magic and magic became technology.
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Dec 26, 2017 21:39
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Stubbies DO kinda look like babies. And they DO sometimes zombie pile and devour androids, who are kinda like people. They don’t have electric wings, though.
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Dec 26, 2017 21:59
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It's kind of hilarious that one of the few games where experiencing all of the content to get all the trophies* is a rewarding experience is also one that lets you just buy them trophies. *Except the look up 2B's skirt 10 times trophy. That poo poo's just pathetic.
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Dec 26, 2017 22:00
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's kind of hilarious that one of the few games where experiencing all of the content to get all the trophies* is a rewarding experience is also one that lets you just buy them trophies. ...That's eternally the last trophy on my steam profile for NieR: Automata. Edit: 
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Dec 26, 2017 22:03
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i am tim! posted:Stubbies DO kinda look like babies. And they DO sometimes zombie pile and devour androids, who are kinda like people. what is a waist-mounted propeller hoop, if not an electric wing
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Dec 26, 2017 22:04
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The Dark Id posted:...That's eternally the last trophy on my steam profile for NieR: Automata. I'm still eternally grateful for you sparing me that fate.
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Dec 26, 2017 22:32
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One thing I also took away from that document was that N2 purposely disconnected the machines in Pascal's village, the Forest Kingdom, etc. from the network as an experiment to see what they would do. The reason N2 was so intent on sending so many machines to wipe out Pascal's village was that it learned what it needed to and considered the "peaceful machine village" experiment to be concluded. It was just cleaning up after itself. I'll admit that I could be wrong about that interpretation. Adam and Eve were also experiments and I think N2 probably would have killed them too eventually. I also think they got slightly more than they bargained for when Eve started corrupting the machines he had influence over. Maybe 2B/9S killing him was doing N2's dirty work for it? ...! fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Dec 26, 2017 23:13
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's kind of hilarious that one of the few games where experiencing all of the content to get all the trophies* is a rewarding experience is also one that lets you just buy them trophies. I used the shop to get that achievement and then get the ones that are just grinding with no actual story attached to it.
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Dec 26, 2017 23:55
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pulsor93 posted:Er, not quite. My mistake. Sorry.
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Dec 27, 2017 00:25
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Hunt11 posted:I used the shop to get that achievement and then get the ones that are just grinding with no actual story attached to it. Yeah, It's the same for me. I did upgrade all pods and got to level 99. But doing the "kill a lot of enemies in berserk mode"-achievement at the end felt like a pointless grind. Also there were a few story achievements which I earned, but technically didn't get, because I had to play in offline mode.
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Dec 27, 2017 00:25
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I got them all legit but I appreciated the shop existing anyway. Yes even the butt one you goddamn prudes. The only people jacking it in this thread are the people lubing up and beating themselves off over their own ~principled position~ of not looking up a 3d model of a fictional character's skirt when the game tells you to.
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Dec 27, 2017 00:52
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There's also an achievement for making 9S play for an hour with his pants off, so at least the game is equal-opportunity in it's butt-staring.
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Dec 27, 2017 01:01
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I tried to get that achievement but for whatever reason, 2B is completely fine with me looking up her skirt and won't knock away the camera  I shouldn't have to spend money on such a low effort trophy 2B, stop making me look like a creep
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Dec 27, 2017 01:21
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It has to be from a surprisingly specific angle given how wide 2B's skirt is. I'd be really impressed if anyone got it without knowing it existed.
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Dec 27, 2017 01:54
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Sindai posted:It has to be from a surprisingly specific angle given how wide 2B's skirt is. It counts climbing up ladders if you're not careful about your camera angles. You could theoretically get it by accident.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:56
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Danaru posted:I tried to get that achievement but for whatever reason, 2B is completely fine with me looking up her skirt and won't knock away the camera The game can be surprisingly finicky about it, yeah. I had a bit of trouble getting her to knock away the camera too. I found the best place for it was the makeshift tower near the bridge to the commerce center. Just park her near the edge and you should be set for a kickable view. ...I remember the specifics of this more than I'd like to. 
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Dec 27, 2017 02:59
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...! posted:One thing I also took away from that document was that N2 purposely disconnected the machines in Pascal's village, the Forest Kingdom, etc. from the network as an experiment to see what they would do. The reason N2 was so intent on sending so many machines to wipe out Pascal's village was that it learned what it needed to and considered the "peaceful machine village" experiment to be concluded. It was just cleaning up after itself. I'll admit that I could be wrong about that interpretation. I don't think N2 felt like it NEEDED to do anything, it just simply wanted to see where things would go, especially with a pair of such advanced machines like Adam and Eve. Pascal was probably just a case where N2 decided to test the limits of his pacifism. Given that it seemingly could have reconnected any of the disconnected machines back into the network (explaining the sudden outbreak of the logic virus at the village), the fact that they pointedly spared Pascal and the children from the same fate kind of sells the idea that it just did what it did to see the results.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:59
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Know Such Peace posted:Red eyes is another huge hint, but I don’t remember any direct connections. lalalalala the watchers code at a boring 9 to 5 main job when they're not on their apocalyptic side gig lalalalala
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Dec 27, 2017 03:26
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Chokes McGee posted:lalalalala the watchers code at a boring 9 to 5 main job when they're not on their apocalyptic side gig lalalalala This is probably up there in terms of good ways to describe the tech industry. Which is making me think on a few angles of this game's plot in new ways.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:36
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's kind of hilarious that one of the few games where experiencing all of the content to get all the trophies* is a rewarding experience is also one that lets you just buy them trophies. Hey, I got it by trying to get a good angle to shoot the Engels in the City Ruin assault. Trying to actually see what I was doing while shooting them ended up looking up the skirt without realizing. Felt real bad when the trophy popped up. I hadn't even been looking at 2B, I was too busy trying to get a good look at the details on the boss.
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Dec 27, 2017 03:54
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Ashsaber posted:Hey, I got it by trying to get a good angle to shoot the Engels in the City Ruin assault. Trying to actually see what I was doing while shooting them ended up looking up the skirt without realizing. Felt real bad when the trophy popped up. Great idea! That will also be my story for why I have the trophy! Thanks!
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Dec 27, 2017 04:13
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...! posted:Great idea! That will also be my story for why I have the trophy! Thanks! My story: I bought it because I wanted to have all the trophies. It isn't a very interesting story.
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Dec 27, 2017 05:20
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Ryas posted:I don't think N2 felt like it NEEDED to do anything, it just simply wanted to see where things would go, especially with a pair of such advanced machines like Adam and Eve. Pascal was probably just a case where N2 decided to test the limits of his pacifism. Given that it seemingly could have reconnected any of the disconnected machines back into the network (explaining the sudden outbreak of the logic virus at the village), the fact that they pointedly spared Pascal and the children from the same fate kind of sells the idea that it just did what it did to see the results. That raises an interesting question about what the logic virus is. It’s possible the machines have this core code to experiment and form splinter groups entirely because their core code is ‘fight your enemies’ BUT the logic virus could be a new thing that makes anyone start screaming or chewing or glowing red eyes. Honestly, since it affects machines and androids both, it might be a completely new, third side of the conflict.
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Dec 27, 2017 06:35
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Or it’s specific to Machine Cores.
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Dec 27, 2017 07:22
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chiasaur11 posted:My story: I bought it because I wanted to have all the trophies. You know, that could be verified by someone looking at your trophy list and seeing when you earned it... 
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Dec 27, 2017 08:10
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Pretty sure the upskirt shot is the last one I got on the PS4 too. If not, it was definitely in the last couple alongside the 9S shorts one.
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Dec 27, 2017 08:33
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Pretty sure the upskirt shot is the last one I got on the PS4 too. If not, it was definitely in the last couple alongside the 9S shorts one. That reminds me, one of the more amusing things I noticed about the PS4 version's trophy percentages is that something like 25% of N:A's players earned the upskirt shot trophy, while only maybe 15% of them earned the 9S shorts one. EDIT: Just checked, as of this writing it's actually closer to 22.7% and 13.5% respectively. While I'm guessing the difference is mostly related to game progress and/or ignorance (I for instance heard about the upskirt trophy in this thread but hadn't heard of the shorts one until I looked it up), one could still make interesting observations about those numbers.
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Dec 27, 2017 09:34
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Relevant I guess... https://twitter.com/TheDarkId/status/945931916188020738
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Dec 27, 2017 09:42
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Bufuman posted:That reminds me, one of the more amusing things I noticed about the PS4 version's trophy percentages is that something like 25% of N:A's players earned the upskirt shot trophy, while only maybe 15% of them earned the 9S shorts one. EDIT: Just checked, as of this writing it's actually closer to 22.7% and 13.5% respectively. That most people who are into dudes still don’t feel the need to see a kid running around with no pants for an hour? 9S isn’t exactly a male 2B...
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Dec 27, 2017 10:15
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The Dark Id posted:Relevant I guess... Don't worry, Id. We already knew, in our hearts of hearts, that you were drunk.
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Dec 27, 2017 10:37
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The hardest part about rereading your old stuff is the shame I get from my own old sense of humor. Being around people who are capable of growing up and examining themselves is a privilege in this day and age. Thank you, Id.
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Dec 27, 2017 11:20
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The Dark Id posted:Relevant I guess... You're in fact super rad owning up to that kinda stuff!
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Dec 27, 2017 11:24
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The Dark Id posted:Relevant I guess... I'm really glad to see this, thank you Id. It can be pretty hard to own up to your past mistakes but I doubt there's even one of us who couldn't be described as a shithead in the past, but I hope that we've all grown up and will continue to improve as people as the years go by.
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Dec 27, 2017 12:45
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Y'all care way too much about whether someone thinks you were intentionally looking up a skirt.
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Dec 27, 2017 13:08
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Y'all care way too much about whether someone thinks you were intentionally looking up a skirt. It's on your profile. Forever. Where people can see it  .
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Dec 27, 2017 13:15
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's on your profile. Forever. Where people can see it It's okay, being the kind of creep who looks up other people's achievements is worse than being the kind of creep who pervs on fictional characters.
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The Dark Id posted:Relevant I guess... If it's any sort of consolation or comfort, quality LPs like your old Drakenier stuff are the main thing that got me to register on SA, which has definitely been a net positive in my life (for instance, the excellent laptop I'm posting with was bought based on recommendations from SH/SC), and I really respect that you made a public apology completely unprompted. Sometimes it looks like everything's just going to hell and nobody cares, but gestures like that remind me that, despite the prevalence of high-visibility assholes, the majority of people are actually pretty decent folks. So, thanks, both for the LPs, and just for being (or trying to be, if you'd prefer) a good guy.
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