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Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.

Pakled posted:

Hey, it worked out pretty well with Justin Thomas.

Kids typically leave VT's secondary as high draft picks, though.

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Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

an adult beverage posted:

I just assume Florida has tons of taleneted players that have been squandered by years of terrible coaching.

WR was one of the few position groups that Mac recruited well at, but there was zero development going on. Hence the only receivers to really do much were the ones who did things as true freshmen (Callaway, Cleveland.)

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Pakled posted:

Georgia Tech flips and signs 4* ATH/QB James Graham from VT. :toot:

VT wanted him as a DB and he wanted to go somewhere where he'd be guaranteed QB play.

Graham injured his knee during his senior season. Missed about six weeks, came back, then got a concussion.

I've seen him play and he was a force when healthy.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/onlygators/status/944376178235854849

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.
"Coach with many years of recruiting experience in the SEC out-recruits G5 coach"

HMS Beagle
Feb 13, 2009



https://twitter.com/AndrewNemec/status/944283894949412864

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Crotch Bat posted:

"Coach with many years of recruiting experience in the SEC out-recruits G5 coach"

Pretty neat

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Ehud posted:

Pretty neat

I should've never gone to Dan Mullen's wiki because now I know he named his daughter "Breelyn" :negative: fuuuuuuuuuuck

Cnidario
Mar 22, 2013

LeeMajors posted:

I should've never gone to Dan Mullen's wiki because now I know he named his daughter "Breelyn" :negative: fuuuuuuuuuuck

Good Lord.

Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if most football coaches subscribed to vapid poo poo-tier Evangelical naming conventions.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!
When you're busy recruiting you just have to slap random phonemes together and hope for the best.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

woo we got Asante Samuels Jr!

gently caress his dad though. Dude left his mom, started a new family, went on Football Wives, never even acknowledged this kid exists
https://twitter.com/Tomahawknation/status/944320912106631169

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 23, 2017

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Crotch Bat posted:

"Coach with many years of recruiting experience in the SEC out-recruits G5 coach"

McElwain was at Alabama for four years before he went to CSU.

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.

YOLOsubmarine posted:

McElwain was at Alabama for four years before he went to CSU.

Dan Mullen survived a decade in the most inhospitable conference in the country at one of the worst jobs possible in said conference (and still left of his own accord) while recruiting multiple 20 top classes in his time there.

Mullen being a better recruiter than Mac, especially at that school and especially in that state should not be remotely surprising and if anything it should be expected.

Head coaches are supposed to be big closers. It's rare that they aren't and even rarer that those coaches are decent at their jobs e.g. Frank Beamer. There's a wealth of difference between how assistants recruit and HCs recruit because of a variety of restrictions placed upon HCs and the otherwise lack of time they tend to have to dedicate towards individual recruits unless on a visit or in-home. There's also something to be said about how G5s and P5s recruit, the former essentially picking the scraps of the latter and usually recruiting against other G5s and low P5s. Mullen was recruiting against some of the toughest coaches and schools to recruit against for a decade and more than held his own. Like I said, him being better than Mac isn't surprising at all.

e: he also recruited against an in-state rival who was flat out knowingly buying commits, that's a whole other level of fuckery to deal with as well.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

It's less, "Mullen is better than Mac! How surprising!"

It's more just funny how much easier it seems to be for him than it was for Mr. "Recruit or die" McElwain".

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Ehud posted:

It's less, "Mullen is better than Mac! How surprising!"

It's more just funny how much easier it seems to be for him than it was for Mr. "Recruit or die" McElwain".

lest we forget

quote:


I certainly dont consider myself an insider in any form of the word, but I have become very good friends with a HS football coach here in FL who from time to time gives me some good inside knowledge of different programs from around the State based on his experience. Was at this coachs house yesterday and for the first time I flat out asked him, What do you think of Coach Mac? He smiled and told me the following story. (I apologize for the lengthy write-up)

This coach is fortunate enough to have a stud QB at his school. The QB is a sophomore this season so recruiting is really starting to pick up. Over summer, the QB got a call from Alabama they told him they were very interested in him and wanted him to come up for a camp. Of course, he said yes. When he arrived, he was greeted at his car by a Bama GA in a golf cart who took him directly to the IPF. There, he was greeted by Lane and proceeded to stretch/warm up for about 30 minutes with Lane talking to him the whole time. He was with a handful of other athletes at this time. After warm ups, him and Lane walked out of the IPF and to another practice field where he threw specifically for Lane. No other QBs were there. After about 30 mins of this, Saban walked up and watched the QB throw and started talking to him. He then invited this kid to his office where they spent the next 2-3 hours chatting one-on-one. Saban said this kid was his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores and therefore wanted to wait a little bit a see more film out of him. Saban told him that if he continued on the path he was on, he would be getting a Bama offer in the not so distant future.

Fast forward about a week and the QB gets a call from UF (not sure which coach). UF asks him to come up for a camp. The QB agrees but his family is not in town to take him so he asks his coach (my friend) if he would drive him up there, which he of course does. One thing to mention is that my buddy is pretty good friends with Geoff Collins and with our S&C coach due to past relationships. So when they get to UF, they park at the IPF and call the number they were given to call. No answer. They then try to call Coach Collins. No answer. They try for a few minutes and get no response. So they decide just to walk into the IPF. When they walk in there are hundreds of little kids camping there. They find Coach Collins and he immediately begins to apologize to them that they forgot they had a youth camp there that weekend and it was crazy. (As a side not, personally I think its great that we are holding these youth camps, just not sure that you want to invite a stud QB to the campus on the same weekend.) So after talking for a few minutes with Coach Collins, he tells them to walk over to the stadium, speak with Megan (I think that was the name he said) at the desk and tell her that Coach Collins said you should be given a tour of the facilities. So they do just that. When they find Megan, they tell her what Coach Collins told them. She looks at the list that she has in front of her and says that Coach Collins didnt put you on the list so I cant let you in. So disappointed, they ask if they can at least see the weight room as my buddy is interested in seeing if he can find the S&C coach. They are taken to the weight room, find the S&C coach and as they are talking to them a GA walks up and tells them that they need to register for the camp. He tells them that they need to go back upstairs, fill out the registration form and pay the $40 fee. The QB says that he has no money on him. So my buddy ends up paying for him. They then tell the QB that they need his physical to take part in the camp. Well, he doesnt have one with him. They try to explain that they were invited by the coaching staff personally and werent told to bring anything, but they say that he must have one. So my buddy has to drive this QB to the nearest walk-in clinic and get him a physical. Finally, they are registered.

They go back to the IPF and someone tells them that all campers have to do 30 mins of conditioning prior to throwing. The QB says that he really wasnt prepared to condition for 30 mins and that he thought he was just there to throw a few balls. The GA gets Coach Nuss to come over and introduces him to the QB. Nuss says that everyone has to condition. So the QB conditions. Then Nuss separates the campers and the QB is placed with the freshman and sophomore group. Now mind you, this QB is already a grown man. And now he is throwing with a bunch of average freshman and sophomore HS QBs who he towers over by about a foot and he is throwing to a bunch of 56 freshman WRs. The QB asks if he could be put in the group with the juniors and seniors. Nuss says no. A few minutes later Coach Mac walks over and says Are you the (insert last name) boy? The QB says yes and Mac asks him why he is throwing with the little kids. The QB said he has no idea. Apparently Nuss had no idea who he was or he didnt seem to care too much. Now again, it would be pretty easy to recognize that this kid is no normal 16 year old. Coach Mac brings him over with the bigger kids and watches him throw a bit. At one point he pulls him over to the side with him, my buddy and Coach Nuss and begins to tell him that he spoke with Saban and Saban thinks very highly of this kid as a QB. And he says that Florida is very much interested in him as well. Nuss steps in and says something to the effect of well, we really dont know that much about you so we are still trying to gather a bunch of information. My buddy said Mac was standing behind Nuss and looked pissed as hell when he said that. Anyway, the day goes on without much else to report.

At the end of the story, my buddy tells me that on the drive to UF that day, out of the blue the QB says that if UF offers today he was going to accept it because the QB wants to play in the SEC and wants to stay in-State. He has had a couple of siblings who went off to play different sports far away from home and it hasnt always worked out that well or been easy on the family. My buddy is surprised by this comment, but doesnt say much to try to change his mind. Well when the QB leaves he says, I dont care if UF ever offers me, Im never going there! He said that it was the worst camping experience he has ever been on and was absolutely miserable the whole time.

On a side note, one of this kids first offers was from UCF. I asked my buddy what he and the boy thought about Frost and he said they are both blown away by him. The QB even said that he would seriously consider committing to UCF is it wasnt for the fact that he knows that Frost will be gone in the next few years.

My buddy said that he actually thinks that Mac is a good guy and could be a good recruiter but there it is very obvious that there is a serious disconnect between Mac and some of the other coaches. He said that until they get stuff straightened out and all are working on the same page, it will be tough for them to pull the elite talent especially when going against a well-oiled machine like Alabama.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

pillsburysoldier posted:

woo we got Asante Samuels Jr!

gently caress his dad though. Dude left his mom, started a new family, went on Football Wives, never even acknowledged this kid exists
https://twitter.com/Tomahawknation/status/944320912106631169

Obviously the true "DBU".

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

pillsburysoldier posted:

lest we forget

But I want to forget. :(

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



LLCoolJD posted:

But I want to forget. :(

Hell, same

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I never read that before. lol nuss and lol Mac for not firing him

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


pillsburysoldier posted:

lest we forget

I remember reading this with the sinking feeling that Macs tenure was doomed. Woof.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Nuss must have more shark loving pictures as blackmail

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
I don't really ever pay attention to recruiting because WVU is never competitive for supple young bodices of tight fresh 18 year old boys. However my parents went out to dinner and Leddie Brown was celebrating with his family his commit to WVU. That was pretty neat hearing about it, he's quiet. Said Holgorsen would even come to this stupid state on recruiting trips. Large influence from guys like Stills and Smallwood.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

https://twitter.com/BuckeyesNews/status/946034228474667014

Winkie01
Nov 28, 2004

Maybe Ohio State could recruit better if the coaches wife didn't get all pissy about players protesting the murder of black people by the cops.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

This is coming from an Ohio State fan? Holy lol.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Regnevelc posted:

This is coming from an Ohio State fan? Holy lol.

Without reading the article I suppose he isn't wrong as far as the tweet goes.

It's just that absolutely everyone cheats is all.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Grittybeard posted:

Without reading the article I suppose he isn't wrong as far as the tweet goes.

It's just that absolutely everyone cheats is all.

if the Gators cheat then why are we still so bad

checkmate

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Regnevelc posted:

This is coming from an Ohio State fan? Holy lol.

Not surprised, a lot of Buckeye fans freaked out on signing day because the 5* OT left the state. They acted like the sky had fallen even though OSU was still the #2 class in the nation. That said, this is the first I have heard of that site.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
Bitch everybody cheats


If you aint cheatin you aint tryin

Zypher
Sep 3, 2009

Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!
nice meltdown

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

South Carolina's home board is in the middle of a meltdown making some weird conspiracy theory about Clemson cheating by embezzling funds through the local mega church and being protected by the NCAA. They are looking into maybe organizing together to hire a PI to investigate. I remember making this church joke like 5 years ago.

Anyways, college football owns.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

lamentable dustman posted:

South Carolina's home board is in the middle of a meltdown making some weird conspiracy theory about Clemson cheating by embezzling funds through the local mega church and being protected by the NCAA. They are looking into maybe organizing together to hire a PI to investigate. I remember making this church joke like 5 years ago.

Anyways, college football owns.

Having lived in upstate SC most of my life I 100% believe it

Which mega church? Newspring? I know they're all huge Clemson fans.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Everyone cheats and the righteous indignation that article has is hilarious. Also that Clemson / church rumor has been a thing for like two or three years now.

KIM JONG TRILL
Nov 29, 2006

GIN AND JUCHE
I genuinely believe that most of the P5 schools have hundred dollar handshakes and boosters paying bounties for good performances at a minimum. The bigger schools doing poo poo like setting up incredibly generous car leases. I do think though that the programs handing out high 5 or even 6 figures to kids to commit are limited to a few schools.

lamentable dustman posted:

South Carolina's home board is in the middle of a meltdown making some weird conspiracy theory about Clemson cheating by embezzling funds through the local mega church and being protected by the NCAA. They are looking into maybe organizing together to hire a PI to investigate. I remember making this church joke like 5 years ago.

Anyways, college football owns.

Salty rival fans launching private investigations owns. Hell it worked for Mississippi State.

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Ehud posted:

Having lived in upstate SC most of my life I 100% believe it

Which mega church? Newspring? I know they're all huge Clemson fans.

Yep. They have like 12 or 13 churches across the state now including 2 in Columbia and at least 1 in Florence and Charleston.

Cnidario
Mar 22, 2013

lamentable dustman posted:

Yep. They have like 12 or 13 churches across the state now including 2 in Columbia and at least 1 in Florence and Charleston.

God, I swear these evangelical mega churches have lovely suburban real estate developers come up with their names for them

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

Salty rival fans launching private investigations owns. Hell it worked for Mississippi State.

One high school's fans hired a PI on another high school in my area and anonymously sent it out to all the area newspapers. The report was so mundane and was so far from proving anything that none of us bit. I still have the report somewhere.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Cnidario posted:

God, I swear these evangelical mega churches have lovely suburban real estate developers come up with their names for them

I figure the Venn diagram between "had hand in founding a evangelical mega church" and "is lovely suburban real estate developer" is pretty close to a circle.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Winkie01 posted:

Maybe Ohio State could recruit better if the coaches wife didn't get all pissy about players protesting the murder of black people by the cops.

Looking at Ohio State's recruiting I'd say that her views on those protests aren't hurting recruiting at all.

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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


lamentable dustman posted:

Yep. They have like 12 or 13 churches across the state now including 2 in Columbia and at least 1 in Florence and Charleston.

Hm. I didn't know Newspring was an offshoot of a Greenville cult. I thought Seacoast cornered the market around here.

Prob too many flip flops and linen shirts for the upstate brand of evangelical.

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