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AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

EorayMel posted:

Grenade launcher is pretty fun but the irons are weird. Off set to the left and it looks like you're carrying a swedish K in first person view.

Also: The grenades don't go very far. About 15 meters before they drop if you plainly hipfire them. You'll need to get closer to aim up like a mortar cannon.

Feels smooth though. and I think the pickup rate is slightly better than average launchers?
I would hope so with an ammo pool of 6, where the Arbiter has what, 12?

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Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008


This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
I thought single shot launchers had 1 -> 1 pickup to make up for the constant reloads

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


No, they don't. Pretty sure they never had 1:1 pickup.

The only grenade launcher that has high pickup is the GL on the Little Friend, the rest all have 0.07 to 0.88 pickup range after WIC.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

UnknownMercenary posted:

No, they don't. Pretty sure they never had 1:1 pickup.

The only grenade launcher that has high pickup is the GL on the Little Friend, the rest all have 0.07 to 0.88 pickup range after WIC.

they did during the happy days of Torgue Builds when an unreloadable weapon in one slot meant you got double in your other slot. beyond that nah

Wastrel_
Jun 3, 2004

Read it and weep.
That should help add some variation to my HBV Crook build. Currently using GL40 + Micro Uzi.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

King Vidiot posted:

Woo, dodge build grenade launcher!

...is what I would say if I still rocked a dodge build, which I probably won't ever again.

Dodge is love. Dodge is life.
Shotgun dodge is your friend.

Wastrel_
Jun 3, 2004

Read it and weep.
Hilariously, they seem to have also - most likely unintentionally - buffed the Arbiter to do 1300 damage as well. Saw it reported on Reddit and went to try it out, and that thing is currently a complete death machine. If you have any troublesome heists you need to do now is probably the time!

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Wastrel_ posted:

Hilariously, they seem to have also - most likely unintentionally - buffed the Arbiter to do 1300 damage as well. Saw it reported on Reddit and went to try it out, and that thing is currently a complete death machine. If you have any troublesome heists you need to do now is probably the time!

Guess it's time to finally use my Arbiter that I unlocked several days ago and have yet to use in a heist thus far.

ArkInBlack
Mar 22, 2013

Wastrel_ posted:

That should help add some variation to my HBV Crook build. Currently using GL40 + Micro Uzi.

Problem is the thing doesn't get any mods at all, Sights, Gadget, Boost, Grenade. It's riding that 22 Conceal forever and ChinaPuff can already hit that so all this is for is players without any DLC. Which, good now everyone has a weapon of every type barring rockets which why use over launchers at this point.

Wastrel_
Jun 3, 2004

Read it and weep.
I use the Commando rocket launcher on OD these days, because nothing clears a room map like it when you're on Swan Song.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
I finally hit XXV-100. The 3% team boost goes a loooong way, that and rushing jewelry store after every heist for the sweet sweet 5% bonus.

Any news on Crackdown? Will it be integrated into the base game or is it a community mod I'd have to download?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

EorayMel posted:

Any news on Crackdown? Will it be integrated into the base game

it's not Wilko making it so no

maswastaken
Nov 12, 2011

Psion posted:

it's not Wilko making it so no
And Wilko doesn't even work on Payday 2 anymore - he's doing some other project.

EorayMel posted:

Any news on Crackdown? Will it be integrated into the base game or is it a community mod I'd have to download?
It's a community mod you'd have to download. It would be nice, albeit extremely unlikely, if Jules saw it and thought "I can do better than that", glancing at his own broke-dick piece of poo poo difficulty with the kind of shame you'd thought only a parent could have.

Development is mostly on hold while Vox is in Puerto Rico helping with the reconstruction effort. iamgoofball's bug fixing.

TheObserver
Nov 7, 2012
We all know the most important part of a difficulty level is the mask you get for completing it, right? With that in mind...

The DEATH VOX Mask:

Description: A giant frag grenade with large beady eyes and angry eyebrows on a white paper background stapled to the front.

Text: Wear this mask to make all your dreams come true - provided they involve robbery and violence. This mask is in honor of a certain modder whose improvements to the game earned him a spot on the PAYDAY 2 development team - just more proof that you can’t spell “good” without “goon”...once you’ve switched out one of the letters.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Picked up the PD2 Ultimate pack on sale right now and immediately get this on my steam comments.

quote:

Repent for you have sinned. The Lord sayeth poo poo heeled developers shalt not be patronized! You have fallen from the Lord's favor and into the den of these whorish fiends. Woe ist thou!

MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Dec 30, 2017

ArkInBlack
Mar 22, 2013
Judge not lest ye be judged, random steam user browsing profiles to browbeat people who buy stuff they don't like.

TheObserver
Nov 7, 2012
Will you sweep away the good developers with the lovely? What if there are 50% good developers in the company? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the harsh reviews for the sake of the 50%?

Far be it from you to do such a thing -- to condemn the good developers with the lovely, treating them alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all Steam reviews do right?

maswastaken
Nov 12, 2011

Let he without EA shite cast the first stone.

frenton
Aug 15, 2005

devil soup
I picked this up during the Holiday sale on PS4 with a couple other friends. Any other console scum currently playing this? PSN: Copperfronts

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
I just did farmer miserable solo.

I thought the reward was gonna be an ostrich, not a penguin :saddowns:

maswastaken
Nov 12, 2011

EorayMel posted:

I just did farmer miserable solo.

I thought the reward was gonna be an ostrich, not a penguin :saddowns:
The real reward is the friends you made on the way.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

EorayMel posted:

I just did farmer miserable solo.

I thought the reward was gonna be an ostrich, not a penguin :saddowns:
WHY

TheObserver
Nov 7, 2012

EorayMel posted:

I just did farmer miserable solo.

I thought the reward was gonna be an ostrich, not a penguin :saddowns:


When the same question was asked of the first person to break 1000 in Crime Spree, they answered simply - “Because it was there”*. Think about it, won’t you?












*Probably not.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

I did not trust pubs to suffer through with saving goats one cage at a time and feared they would ruin a 50 minute so far so good streak with an extra goat at the end.

That is, if anybody would've been up for it at 9 pm other than me so :shrug:

Dragon's breath rounds on overkill though :dadjoke:

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

EorayMel posted:

I did not trust pubs to suffer through with saving goats one cage at a time and feared they would ruin a 50 minute so far so good streak with an extra goat at the end.

That is, if anybody would've been up for it at 9 pm other than me so :shrug:

Dragon's breath rounds on overkill though :dadjoke:
It only took you 50 minutes? I thought it took a bit longer than that.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

It only took you 50 minutes? I thought it took a bit longer than that.

It took me 61 minutes. Because I experimentally sent a completely empty cage to see if i got any more funny vlad dialouge. I did not.



The streetsweeper is in fact good in cool when you load it with incendiary ammo.

That hour of work was worth it for this:

EorayMel fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jan 4, 2018

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Trip report: Steak Claus, hotline magenta iron man suit, flamethrower, secondary saw, motherforker and sociopath is infact good and cool.

HebrewMagic
Jul 19, 2012

Police Assault In Progress
Sounds like a wet dream I had at eighteen.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Also I hope they never remove this

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

EorayMel posted:

I just did farmer miserable solo.

I thought the reward was gonna be an ostrich, not a penguin :saddowns:

is this better or worse than soloing tabula rasa

YET ANOTHER FAG
Mar 6, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Fellis posted:

is this better or worse than soloing tabula rasa

My guess is it would be better. You're allowed skills & the AI teammates are no longer totally useless. Day 1 sounds like it'd be the real annoying part.

Wastrel_
Jun 3, 2004

Read it and weep.
Went back to PD:TH for a bit this past week and got reminded of how much more unforgiving that game actually is as compared to the current build of Payday 2. No inspire, no double ammo/med bags, enemies have virtually 100% accuracy over long distances, cloakers spawn in groups with no warning of their presence, ammo drops give far less ammo, escape timers, etc. Failed twice at soloing Panic Room on Hard with bots when I used to laugh off that difficulty back when I regularly played. :(

Wastrel_ fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jan 5, 2018

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
I still need blow-out in that game to get 100%! Don’t leave me hanging, goons!

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
What do I combine with beaver team MEAT material?

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

*staggers in drunkenly and sings Jolene to the very concept of LMGs*

TheObserver
Nov 7, 2012
Everyone better cash in their Crime Spree Crime Bucks, because tomorrow...something happens (although probably not more of the endgame plot, more’s the pity).

Soral
May 30, 2009

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Crime Spree

Added Brooklyn Bank Heist to the Crime Spree rotation
Added Alaskan Deal to the Crime Spree rotation
Added Reservoir Dogs: Garnet Group Boutique to the Crime Spree rotation
Added Reservoir Dogs: Highland Mortuary to the Crime Spree rotation

General

Updated the crimenet loading screen hints with the new Crime.net interface
Fixed an issue where vehicles could get stuck on debris from the SWAT turret
Fixed an issue with Ethans health being to low on the One Down difficulty when having him as team AI

Sound
Removed an Ethan line where he mentions Cloaker instead of intended Bulldozer.

:siren: Weapons :siren:
Arbiter and China Puff
Fixed the weapons to use the intended damage values
Interceptor 45
Fixed so that the red dot sight is not misaligned if you use the expert slide
HRL-7 Rocket Launcher
Rocket damage increased to 12500 (up from 10000)
Commando 101 Rocket Launcher
Rocket damage increased to 6200 (up from 5000)
Thanatos .50 cal Sniper Rifle
Bullet damage increased to 3500 (up from 2800)
DMR Kits Weapon Mods
Ammo pick up has normalised to reliable pick up one bullet per box

Broomstick Pistol - Precision Barrel
Ammo pick up has normalised to reliable pick up one bullet per box
Galant Rifle
Ammo pick up decreased by 20%
M308 Rifle
Ammo pick up decreased by 20%
Cavity 9mm
Ammo pick up decreased by 20%
Little Friend 7.62 Assault Rifle
Ammo pick up decreased by 20%

STRYK 18c Pistol
The recoil pattern was tweaked to be easier to control and more predictable for the player
The camera shake effect has been reduced
The Judge Shotgun
Total Ammo decreased to 35 (down from 40)

:siren:

Skills
Swan Song - Aced
Skill duration bonus is reduced to 3 seconds. (down from 6)
:siren:

Level
Alaskan Deal
Replaced a door in the level that opened in to water
Fixed a spot where bags could be thrown out of the level
Beneath The Mountain
Fixed an issue where players could get stuck in the vault area
Fixed so that bags no longer fall off the helipad
Big Bank
Fixed so that you can no longer use the button to open the vault from the outside
Biker Heist
Made a tweak so that the bikes should no longer flip over or get stuck when colliding with each other
Brooklyn Bank
Fixed an issue where cops would climb through the fence on the second floor inside the bank
Fixed so that enemies won't spawn on the second floor until the player has access to that area
Fixed so that the crescent windows in the bank break when cops jump through them
Added VO to the escape driver
Added waypoints to the winch parts
The thermite VO now only plays once that objective has been started.
Fixed several issues with portals, occluders and lod steps on the level
Fixed an issue where one blue swat would spawn on higher difficulties
Fixed an issue with floating graffiti on a door
Fixed an issue where players could lock pick the strongbox under the floor before the c4 had detonated
Moved one of the lance drill outwards a little bit to not clip with the door
Fixed an issue with floating papers on a desk inside the bank
Fixed so that the laptop on the second floor now has the text "hold F to hack" instead of "place the laptop"
Car Shop
Added collision behind a door close to the water cooler to prevent the player from getting stuck
Diamond Heist
Fixed an issue where the alarm would not go off if you broke the glass of the display cases after you had opened them with a glass cutter
Fixed the issue where the stealth secure zone sometimes wouldn't be disabled when going loud
Fixed an issue where you could not pick up a certain bag
Fixed an issue where AI could walk through a glass window
Firestarter
Fixed the issue where money wound count as weapons destroyed
Golden Grin Casino
Fixed so that it no longer takes 50 seconds or more to pick up the sleeping gas
Heat Street
Fixed so that you no can no longer climb the trees by the crash site
Moved a trashcan where the player could get stuck on the way to the crash site
Added tinted windows on the crashed van
Jewelry Store
Fixed so that the animation for the police cars entering the level has the wheels in the right place
New Safe House
Fixed issue where client could interact with one of Dukes paintings on tier 3 of his safehouse "room"
Nightclub
Added collision to prevent bags from getting stuck on a ledge above the safe
Prison Nightmare
Fixed so that you can no longer get pushed out of the level when opening a warhead crate
Reservoir Dogs
Fixed an issue where "Defend the warehouse" objective would never end in rare occasions on day 1
Fixed portal issues on day 2
Shadow Raid
Fixed an issue where the team AI would walk around the level after player drops out
Slaughterhouse
Turned a container around so that the correct doors open to prevent enemies from clipping through it
Resized some portals to prevent objects from popping in and out
The Bomb: Dockyard
Fixed so that you can no longer shoot guards so that they end up on pipes and cannot be interacted with anymore
The Diamond
Removed a Bain line from The Diamond that mentions that "the cops have the MALL locked down".

General
Removed christmas tree from lobby room
Improved inventory belt customization
Improved wall collision fadeout options

Red Dot Sights
Improved the The Professional's Choice Sight
Improved the Surgeon Sight
Improved the See More Sight
Improved the Compact Holosight
Improved the Speculator Sight
Improved the Trigonom Sight
Improved the Solar Sight
Improved the Pistol Red Dot Sight
Improved the 45 degree red-dot Gadget
Improved the Riktpunkt 45 degree Gadget

Levels
Added Boiling Point
Added Counterfeit
Added Election Day
Added Hotline Miami
Added Hoxton Revenge
Added Panic Room
Added Scarface Mansion
Added Shadow Raid
Added Transport: Train heist
Added Undercover

quote:

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As new levels are added to the rotation any active Crime Sprees will be reset.
You pay continental coins to start again from the same level or claim your reward and start over.
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The Rocket Launchers and the Thanatos were originally designed to be the best weapons for dispatching bulldozers. Recently we feel like they have not been competitive enough to compensate for the drawbacks they bring with them. For this reason we are raising their damage to reduce how many shots they need to kill Bulldozers.
While we like the way Swan Song works, it is often viewed as a mandatory skill for the One Down difficulty due to how strong of a counter it is to the one down mechanic. With the reduced duration the player will have to work harder to make the most out of the skill.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Overkill posted:

While we like the way Swan Song works, it is often viewed as a mandatory skill for the One Down difficulty due to how strong of a counter it is to the one down mechanic. With the reduced duration the player will have to work harder to make the most out of the skill.
lmao Overkill get hosed and learn how to balance you stupid pieces of poo poo.

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maswastaken
Nov 12, 2011

As I said elsewhere: "It is often viewed as a mandatory skill, so we decided to replace it with a gaping hole in your ability to get things done."

It's not like it's considered a mandatory skill because players need it or anything.

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