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Covok posted:The intent might be just to shrink the line so that people can follow all the books comfortably. Apparently, there's even been rumors for a long time that spider-gwen Gwen will enter 616 and rebrand as the Ghost-spider. With Miles also changing his name, the theory is they will all be in one book, like how the entire bat family mostly operates in Detective Comics. Or how they're consolidating all the Avengers teams into one. This consolidation makes a lot of sense, when you think about how successful DC's version of it as been. And, we already heard the 'Ghost-Spider' bit during the trailer for that new animated series.
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Marvel wants you to write stories for them for free Heres a list of restrictions https://twitter.com/JustPlainTweets/status/946512956791107590
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site posted:Marvel wants you to write stories for them for free Marvel's current business strategy: *gif of a dumpster burning*
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Dec 29, 2017 00:52
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This is a dramatic change from the Quesada to end of Hickman's Marvel era. That era had them dominate.
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Dec 29, 2017 00:54
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Gatts posted:This is a dramatic change from the Quesada to end of Hickman's Marvel era. That era had them dominate. To be fair, this is just their new phone app.
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Dec 29, 2017 00:57
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I’m glad I was around for the Hickman era. God drat those were some good years of books with a loving great ending.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I’m glad I was around for the Hickman era. God drat those were some good years of books with a loving great ending. His Avengers run is my favorite in all of comics. I was completely into it and awed by its scope and scale.
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Dec 29, 2017 01:16
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Hickman's Marvel saga was too good for this world and thus had to end.
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I'd be so into a gimmick month where the actual comics had to adhere to those rules. What would comics without 'sensationalism' even be?
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site posted:Marvel wants you to write stories for them for free Truly I find it easy to imagine a compelling superhero story where nobody has guns, dies or is allowed to talk about anything controversial. Edit: Using Gwenpool as the example for that is all the more hilarious when she regularly uses guns.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I'd be so into a gimmick month where the actual comics had to adhere to those rules. What would comics without 'sensationalism' even be? Bad
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Dec 29, 2017 02:19
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site posted:Marvel wants you to write stories for them for free The list of restrictions doesn't surprise me but Jesus H Christ actually stealing stories from fans without even compensating them anything?
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Dec 29, 2017 02:49
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Things must be pretty bad at Marvel financially.
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Contraceptives, huh.
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Covok posted:https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/12/28/spider-gwen-may-cancelled/ Click your link again, because apparently not?
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Rhyno posted:Things must be pretty bad at Marvel financially. By 2019 it'll be five artists and Stan adding dialogue to finished scenes again
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HIJK posted:The list of restrictions doesn't surprise me but Jesus H Christ actually stealing stories from fans without even compensating them anything? The title is ludicrously sensationalist, which the article even cops to in the body. It sounds like a standard cover-their-rear end disclaimer, so if Al Ewing writes a story where Storm throws Thanos a birthday party some guy can't go, "UHH, you totally stole that idea from my custom panel!" The list of restrictions is ludicrous, but hey, it's Disney, what did you expect.
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Rochallor posted:The title is ludicrously sensationalist, which the article even cops to in the body. It sounds like a standard cover-their-rear end disclaimer, so if Al Ewing writes a story where Storm throws Thanos a birthday party some guy can't go, "UHH, you totally stole that idea from my custom panel!" i went over the language included in the article: “The perpetual, irrevocable, exclusive, royalty-free and fully transferable and sub-licensable right, for the full term of copyright protection available (including renewal terms), to use, [etcetcetc] make available, and otherwise exploit, in whole or in part, in all languages, anywhere in the world, by all means, [etcetcetc] in any number of copies and without limit as to time, manner or frequency of use, without further notice to you, with or without attribution, and without the requirement of permission from or payment to you or any other person or entity" So it is a CYA but to me it looks like they're claiming ownership of the stuff someone makes just in case 
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Dec 29, 2017 03:29
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There's "No Aliens" on the list. Like... some of this stuff exists to go "Don't write your fetish comic" like the "No farting sounds" one. And yeah that makes sense, some of this other stuff is like... Marvel what the gently caress?
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Dec 29, 2017 03:31
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Wolverine fanfics without the snikt cuz it's the sound of a bodily function
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I cant wait until thousands of users are banned for using guardians of the galaxy.
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So has anyone filtered down what you can actually write about? Dr. Doom taking Valeria to get ice cream? Thing and Cap going to poker night?
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Iceman and America can't be used cuz they're gay
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 Jesus Purlmutter what the gently caress, I knew he was essentially Dickensian Scrooge made flesh but this poo poo is beyond.
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There is really no reason to blame this on a single individual rather than an increasingly toxic corporate culture that's been evident in everything Marvel's done for the past 10 years.
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Do the X-Men as a whole count as social issues? How about promoting an alternative lifestyle?
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I'm in the middle of reading Hickman's Avengers run, since I was one of the few people that didn't like it at first. Giving it a second go, and... I still don't like it, so far, though I'm only up to the start of Infinity. I just feel like he does a lot of good mythologizing and world-building, but skimps heavily on the characterization and relies a lot on plot devices over the actual actions of characters. When I realized that the first two stories are pretty much resolved with "the villains mostly just roll over because Captain Universe says hi", that helped me really click on why I'm not digging it. Sometimes when he slows down and does single-issue stories that aren't as big of a deal to the overall arc, I feel like he does better, but they feel like just moments in a monolithic and glacial run.
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Lurdiak posted:There is really no reason to blame this on a single individual rather than an increasingly toxic corporate culture that's been evident in everything Marvel's done for the past 10 years. I'd guess the restrictions are more coming from Disney's "literally rewrote copyright law so nobody can ever get Steamboat Willie for free" lawyers than the Marvel end. I count on Marvel to be tone-deaf enough to warn against "alternative lifestyles" and whatnot, but nobody who's ever cracked open a comic book could seriously write in a prohibition against bare midriffs.
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Dec 29, 2017 06:21
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Finally they figured out what us fans love about Marvel! *Squints* a complete isolation from 'social issues', 'alternative lifestyles' and aliens!
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By "no aliens", they actually mean no talk of, like, Nephilim and poo poo, right? There goes my Wolfsbane/Nightcrawler team-up pitch...
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You know, there is a part of me that thinks they meant some of these restrictions as a way of trying to stop people from making Pro Nazi comic and MRA bullshit and stuff like that (because you know people are going to do that) and they hosed up the wording. But, then, I realize I'm giving them way too much credit.
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Covok posted:You know, there is a part of me that thinks they meant some of these restrictions as a way of trying to stop people from making Pro Nazi comic and MRA bullshit and stuff like that (because you know people are going to do that) and they hosed up the wording. But, then, I realize I'm giving them way too much credit. I should think that's absolutely a big part of why the wording is the way it is. One of the most famous panel edits of a Marvel work in Internet history is Jay Pinkerton's comic strip which features Spider-Man thinking "But the Holocaust didn't happen!" They want to be covered in every possible way in case they need to slap a C&D on the 4chan crowd.
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sexpig by night posted:Finally they figured out what us fans love about Marvel! A solid 22 pages of Spider man reading the morning paper. You can't see the paper and he doesn't comment on it as that breaks several different rules.
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Covok posted:You know, there is a part of me that thinks they meant some of these restrictions as a way of trying to stop people from making Pro Nazi comic and MRA bullshit and stuff like that (because you know people are going to do that) and they hosed up the wording. But, then, I realize I'm giving them way too much credit. But then they basically outlaw mentioning gays at all and well that thought falls apart.
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Covok posted:You know, there is a part of me that thinks they meant some of these restrictions as a way of trying to stop people from making Pro Nazi comic and MRA bullshit and stuff like that (because you know people are going to do that) and they hosed up the wording. But, then, I realize I'm giving them way too much credit. CharlestheHammer posted:But then they basically outlaw mentioning gays at all and well that thought falls apart. Yeah if that's their aim a much simpler and clearer way of covering that would be something like "Nothing that espouses bigotry, white supremacism, Nazism, etc. in a positive fashion."
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Kai Tave posted:Yeah if that's their aim a much simpler and clearer way of covering that would be something like "Nothing that espouses bigotry, white supremacism, Nazism, etc. in a positive fashion." Yeah but then someone's going to complain that they're not portraying it in a positive fashion, they're just portraying it, and it's ultimately up to viewers to form their own opinions on complex social issues, because I'm pretty sure fox news has that exact position
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KaosMachina posted:Yeah but then someone's going to complain that they're not portraying it in a positive fashion, they're just portraying it, and it's ultimately up to viewers to form their own opinions on complex social issues, because I'm pretty sure fox news has that exact position Except Marvel editorial gets to be the ultimate judge of that, no matter how strident someone's pro Nazi apologia arguments are. "No pro Nazi poo poo means no pro Nazi poo poo, we aren't interested in hosting a symposium on the merits of white supremacy, pass." Like I think Covok's kind of reaching with his hypothesis because even if I squint my eyes and turn my head sideways I can't read that list of do-nots and come away with "oh well obviously this is Marvel trying to cover their asses in the case of alt-right assholes wanting to write The Adventures of Why Nazi Captain America Did Nothing Wrong," but if that is in fact what they wanted to do then the solution to that is really quite simple and it's just unambiguously telling bigots and Nazis to gently caress off.
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But then they would have to tell some of their own paid writers to gently caress off! Hohohohohonhonhonhon 
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