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juggalo baby coffin posted:why is everyone so mad about the used car salesman thing, jesus I thought it was a pretty funny gag, also I posted a meme that was literally this a while back
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The Saddest Robot posted:I was watching a presentation from the some of the DICE artists and there was this slide. For fun let's consider the Javelin. It was introduced in November 2014 and probably first sold around that time. 1128 days ago. This year there was an entire AtV episode dedicated to the asset and how they're working on it. That aired on April 14th, 2017. 259 days ago. I'm pretty sure MoMA paid over a thousand bucks for a picture of one so he would know more. Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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The Saddest Robot posted:I was watching a presentation from the some of the DICE artists and there was this slide. Start with the BF4 line, change "days" to "weeks", add a "sale" block at the front and a "refactor" block at the end, and repeat it indefinitely
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juggalo baby coffin posted:why is everyone so mad about the used car salesman thing, jesus or I dunno maybe goons desire a conciliatory tone on some level
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the car salesman thing is a bit of a tangent, but it helps debunk the myth of Chris the legendary computer programmer who is also smart with money. this isn't really a "kick Chris while he's down" thing either. everyone has to work and get cash, I don't think there's any judgement (from bootcha in his vid) associated with Chris' profession while not working on games - but the point is that he wasn't working on games. he wasn't busy boning up on current tech and industry trends. he wasn't busy learning how to do the best mocap the world's ever seen. he also wasn't living like a rockstar waiting to do a reunion tour, off wisely-managed money. he was doing normal joe stuff, trying to get by. this thread knows the beating heart of star citizen's success is the myth of Chris Roberts. the backers have put their faith in the guy. I think understanding his position immediately prior to the crowdfunding is pretty essential.
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alf_pogs posted:the car salesman thing is a bit of a tangent, but it helps debunk the myth of Chris the legendary computer programmer who is also smart with money.
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nnnotime posted:I know it's not the intent, but ironically, when you think about it, a used-car rental salesman who can pull in $175 million in sales sounds like a pretty good used-car salesman. right!?! I used to bitch and complain that I didn't understand how anyone could find Chris Roberts charismatic but then you look at the results... promising the world, under-delivering and yet still has an army of loyal internet warriors throwing money at him. I have accepted the mystery
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Dusty Lens posted:Clearly you've forgotten about the very serious and very important reality TV show "The Next Great Starship". The guy is a riot, his videos are better and more enjoyable than any other streamers, and his continuing enthusiasm for the game is unquestionable by now. So I will watch TNGS and mourn that the funny, goofy actual space sim fan got iced out by maladjusted neckbeards who didn’t want to see a guy with minor outside celebrity playing their game and (heaven forbid) possibly drawing in regular people to check out the game. quote:I'm nervous about hearing about marriages and divorces and other things that distract from the pure mountain spring of comedy that already flows through our lands. Yeah, Chris and Sandi were apparently nervous, too. Why else keep it secret for three years? And they would’ve gotten away with it to if it was for that warlord and his meddlesome blog!
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This is the worst, worst, WORST example of a kickstarter, and this entire debacle is Mighty No. 9 times a thousand. This is insane. Keiji Inafune getting a crack at the video game industry and failing miserably pisses me off enough, but i grew up on poo poo like Wing Commander. I had no stake in Star Citizen, but it's hard to see who is in charge, but so out of touch, that they will never accomplish what they set out to do
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Bootcha posted:Terrible decisions are a part of Chris Roberts history... very enjoyable so far
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alf_pogs posted:right!?! I used to bitch and complain that I didn't understand how anyone could find Chris Roberts charismatic but then you look at the results... promising the world, under-delivering and yet still has an army of loyal internet warriors throwing money at him. I have accepted the mystery Put in other terms: Take Wing Commander off Chris Roberts resume and tell me how much you think this whole thing makes. Put another way: The Last Jedi made what Star Citizen has made in 5 years in 12 hours.
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Bootcha posted:There's a quite bit more to that story than what I mentioned, and it's a lot more depressing and sad. And more than two sources have confirmed most of the details of that sad unspoken tale. are you getting into the gizmodo and nepotism etc and the terrible office dynamics? if you know what was the final pin for Rob and Eric, as they seemed liked decent people and tried unless there is more to the story. I know they went on to try decent but was it just the move to LA or was there more to it ?? intardnation fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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Spiderdrake posted:Is it really that hard to understand nostalgia is an incredibly powerful tool? That the buzz around kickstarter in 2012 was incredibly positive? And once in, the sunk cost drags the whales behind the failboat? Another factor seldom touched on is that this happened in a climate where nearly the entire playerbase of frustrated MWO players that crowdfunded that tire fire jumped on board super early and began spitepledging to punish  plus how crobbler and co seized on and played into the collective cynicism from that period to maximum effect
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nnnotime posted:I know it's not the intent, but ironically, when you think about it, a used-car rental salesman who can pull in $175 million in sales sounds like a pretty good used-car salesman. Well, when you think about it, a sewer cleaner who can pull in $175 million in sales sounds like a pretty good sewer cleaner.
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The SC Kickstarter is literally the perfect example of right person, right place, right time. No one was skeptical of Kickstarters then, there was a lot more cynicism around PC gaming (I was very much a console gamer as were most people I know, now they're all PC people), and Chris Roberts arrived on scene with a pitch perfect, uh, pitch to practically hack the brains of every agitated, frustrated PC gamer who saw it.
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Loiosh posted:I'm so very glad the worst thing I've done is spent money on JPEGs (and watch too much anime). Also, hi everyone. hey it's this guy. Glad to hear you're well
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iospace posted:Cast iron is the poo poo. Cast iron is the terms of service
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Star Citizen: WE KNOW!! CIG KNOWS!!
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G0RF posted:Yeah, Chris and Sandi were apparently nervous, too. Why else keep it secret for three years? And they would’ve gotten away with it to if it was for that warlord and his meddlesome blog! Yeah then children. I'm on board with the idea that you absolutely cannot peel apart Star Citizen without getting elbow deep into the cult of personality. There's no getting around that poo poo during this particular autopsy. In may ways that is the autopsy. The topic of Sandi and the scope of her role in this, potentially to the point of playing an instrumental role in pushing things in the direction it's currently coasting, with a major turning point being observable in the casting aside of Eric Peterson and Co. in favor of the Santa Monica limelight and eternal cash drive. That they're hitched and there are unseemly questions concerning to what degree Star Citizen was turned into a personal piggy bank floating about is absolutely central to this whole thing. As much so as any examination of shady dealings and contract breaches. But then the question of how that relates to marriages and personal lives comes up and I'm suddenly uncertain of what discussion is warranted and what's creepy warlord nonsense. Mostly because I'm an enormous pussy and I don't particularly like meanness crossing some vague boundary that shifts with the twanging heartbeat of my own shitpost to shitpost hypocrisy. So I'm all about shoveling popcorn while watching someone pull out all the major organs to put together a cause of death but I get squeamish if suddenly someone's diddling the corpse. But Bootcha is a better person than I am so I'm not particularly worried.
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trucutru posted:Well, when you think about it, a sewer cleaner who can pull in $175 million in sales sounds like a pretty good sewer cleaner. Star Citizen: Fatberg's Day Out
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With all the marine biologists abound why isn't there a :barreleyepop:?
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a fish has better cockpit visibility than any of the ships
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Blue On Blue posted:Considering it made slightly more than 100k in the box office , its even more funny That´s like, what, 6000-7000 people? Really that many?
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Bootcha posted:Terrible decisions are a part of Chris Roberts history... Gizmondo?
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Genuinely if you run a used car sales business you are probably pulling in more money than the vast majority of lead game developers.
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Does anyone have that picture of Sandi after just learning she was cut from american satan, and her look of absolute murder? I can't find it in highlights/recap
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Actually, it is at the tail end of Oct Set 2.Scruffpuff posted:Sandi Gardiner, "actress", being nixed 100% from her tour de force as "Vic's Mom" is the most delicious ending of the #actress #Hollywood saga that I can possibly imagine.
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Mods please change my name to "42 Word Long Catchphrase" and I'm not joking in the slightest.
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The Titanic posted:You’re lumping too many people together, but that’s ok too. Your post nails the underlying problem with most western societies in general. Once upon a time you'd have left, centrist, right. Now it seems to be left or right. And if you try and be a centrist both sides look at you with suspicion. I'm still a backer in SC and I still believe 'something' will be released. It's going to be nothing like anyone imagines, lol, as Star Citizen or SQ42. That includes CIG. I can imagine the scene from Young Frankenstein , with CR playing Gene Wilder, when "it's" released.
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Rugganovich posted:Your post nails the underlying problem with most western societies in general. Once upon a time you'd have left, centrist, right. Now it seems to be left or right. And if you try and be a centrist both sides look at you with suspicion. i think the sensible, moderate centrist thing to do is probably get a refund
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I wonder how many spite pledges have been made. I mean... You got to be pretty hosed up to go "gently caress Derek Smart and all those idiot goons! I'll throw another $100 in the pit just to show them!!!"
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To: The intern reading this thread From: Your friends and diligent researchers at SomethingAwful Subject: File Under: Possibly Useful Pull Quotes (if worse comes to worst) quote:Of Kings And Men - to be delisted with immediate effect
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Fangrim posted:I wonder how many spite pledges have been made. I mean... You got to be pretty hosed up to go "gently caress Derek Smart and all those idiot goons! I'll throw another $100 in the pit just to show them!!!" You got to be pretty hosed up to still have $100 (or $1) still in this shitshow in the first place.
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G0RF posted:To: The intern reading this thread The comments on this are like staring into SC's future. WHERE'S MY MONEY!! REFUND NOW!!
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It's a new year. Let's bring everyone really down. thatguy suggested this parody and suppled most of the lyrics. * lyrics by thatguy with additions/changes by ewe2 * Fitter Happer made today would just be a treated scream. * happy 2018 buster.
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Milky Moor posted:The comments on this are like staring into SC's future. And that's just people paying regular video game money. e: it's really grim to think about and I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't be surprised to find one day post failure that someone working on the game has been tracked down and killed by a disgruntled backer. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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BigglesSWE posted:Oh God I miss him. His episode from the 4th season was probably the best. I have the book "Black Adder - The whole drat dynasty" https://www.amazon.com/Blackadder-Whole-Dynasty-Richard-Curtis/dp/0140280359 If you love your curtis/elton humour, a must have book.
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Alchenar posted:And that's just people paying regular video game money. It's why I said that I'm legitimately  about remembering, how some of the exact shitizen names that still remain 'jokingly' said they'd crowdfund assassins to hunt down Crobblers, if they ever felt he failed to deliver.
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