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StandardVC10 posted:I endorse Cyrano's suggestion for an Attu and Kiska movie, they could call it "What The gently caress Are We Even Doing Here, Seriously" Coen brothers or bust.
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Re: WW2 ages It’s wrong that the majority of American soldiers in WW2 were young. Average age was 26. Age also decreased as the war went on. For the 18 year old look you really need to be looking at replacements getting to the field ca 44-45. Guys like Heller, in other words. Of course you do have the young guys sneaking in for adventure. One of my grandfathers turned 17 floating off Leyte. The other was a lot more representative. He joined in 1940 at 22 because he needed money and the job market for farm boys sucked. Edit: that’s the age for combat jobs btw, factoring our mechanics and clerks etc. It’s also untrue in Vietnam. Average age of combat MOS troops there was 22.
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Another thing to factor in is cultural assumptions about childhood and how old you need to be to be a true adult. A 20 year old in 1940 is in a very different place as far as the culture is concerned than a 20 year old in 1970. In a lot of ways Heller is more indicative of the view emerging in the 60s than what people’s dominant views were in the 40s. Most of his books were published then or later. Catch 22 was 61 or 62 iirc. Even then it was a monitory view that gained traction across the next decade. Edit: mainstream traction. Obviously there have always been anti war activists.
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HEY GUNS posted:yeah they have to fit on the screen (which is also why they're shoulder to shoulder in paintings) and the audience will have much more familiarity with 18th century movie combat than 17th. there's a danger that with 18th century drill in mind authentic 17th century practices will look too spread out and "unserious." What have you done. Now I have to read everything she wrote. I had things I was going to do. 
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Xiahou Dun posted:What have you done. Now I have to read everything she wrote. port, my friend
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HEY GUNS posted:this blogger goes into that sort of thing a bunch, things like costuming a character who's supposed to be innocent and childlike in pale pink which works perfectly for a 21st century audience but in the italian renaissance pale colors meant you couldn't afford darker dyes Friends, this is a pro-rear end click if only for how quotable it is. on catching his wife boning another dude posted:Orsini grabs the iron fire poker and hits his wife over the head, full force, wham, wham, dead. He drops the fire poker on her corpse and walks briskly out of the room, leaving it for the servants to clean up. Yes. That is the right thing, because this is the Renaissance, and these people are terrible. on how Showtime expects you to be shocked at papal corruption posted:In fact, Cardinal Shocked-all-the-time, according to the writers you are supposed to be none other than Giuliano della Rovere. Giuliano “Battle-Pope” della Rovere! You have a mistress! And a daughter! And a brothel! And an elephant! And take your elephant to your brothel! The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Ask / Tell > Ask Us About Military History Mk. III: Take your elephant to your brothel
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i am somewhat fond of The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Ask / Tell > Ask Us About Military History Mk. III: this is the renaissance and these people are terrible
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^^Also good! Another, oddly appropriate quote: The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Ask / Tell > Ask Us About Military History Mk. III: Even the monks have goons
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HEY GUNS posted:yeah, so did i, and then my english fiance turned me on to port Join ussssss  (I also like sherry, personally, especially a nice oloroso. And Manhattans. I have the drinking tastes of an 80 year old maiden aunt)
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feedmegin posted:Join ussssss
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HEY GUNS posted:yo have you ever had a sidecar? it's amaretto and vermouth I have not but I am intrigued. I also plan to make this for New Year's Eve - http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2014/01/classic-drink-hugo-ensslin-up-to-date-rye-cocktail-recipe-history.html
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feedmegin posted:I have not but I am intrigued. I also plan to make this for New Year's Eve - edit: if you want to drink like my guys drank and want something more than beer or wine, check the dates on those weird bitters liquors and drink them--a lot of those things were invented around this time. Or drink vermouth. Wallenstein produced the vermouth he drank on his own estates, because of course he loving did HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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did it actually contain wormwood back then?
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And in the military vein: I know about the Romans supplied posca to their troops, but what about other eras? Were there regular state/lord/etc alcoholic drink supplies like they supplied grain or meat to the soldiers? Did the Saxon fyrds get ale/beer from their lord when on a campaign? Were liquor rations given out to 30YW Whither booze?
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Reiterpallasch posted:did it actually contain wormwood back then? Neophyte posted:Were liquor rations given out to 30YW HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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HEY GUNS posted:yeah they have to fit on the screen (which is also why they're shoulder to shoulder in paintings) and the audience will have much more familiarity with 18th century movie combat than 17th. there's a danger that with 18th century drill in mind authentic 17th century practices will look too spread out and "unserious." After your eyeballs have bled out, will you still be able to understand it when they're talking in period dialog with accents? Okay, maybe you personally would. God dammit. I walked into that one. I never really thought people used older actors for movies in order to try to glorify war. That comes out in the larger content itself--or not--depending on the producting. I just don't think most people that are 18-22--including actors 18-22--are going to do a good job of acting the role. I cite Dawson Casting from my other personal favorite time-sucking pit of despair (TV Tropes) to explain that better. The writing--and especially the directing--can do a better job of showing that they were just children. Take the scene at the end of Full Metal Jacket where they're singing the Mickey Mouse Song. And yes, they're all walking too close together blablabla. Hell, a professional actor would do a better job of depicting me trying to type this post with the cat snoring against left arm than I would do myself. Oh! The cat's dreaming now.  Edit: Okay but with CGI in video games, they have much less of an excuse, but I don't want to touch the poo poo on that. Rocko Bonaparte fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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So are there any good free wargames then, especially on steam? I did check out the wargame thread but the freebie links I found were dead as hell. Again, the advance wars series is pretty great but I kinda want to try my hand at the minutiae
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Cythereal posted:The Battle Off Samar deserves a good movie. Too unbelievable. HEY GUNS posted:yo have you ever had a sidecar? it's amaretto and vermouth That's a really weird sidecar. A sidecar is brandy, triple sec, and lemon juice.
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Phanatic posted:That's a really weird sidecar. A sidecar is brandy, triple sec, and lemon juice. Of all the arguing on SA, food argument is by far the best/ most productive I personally want a movie about the Zeppelinists of WW1 made
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This website is great and I read that and then I read like five articles on Machiavelli and twenty articles on how to identify saints and, oh wow, it's now 2:00 in the afternoon already where did my entire morning go? Thank you for introducing me to this blog, it's amazingly cool.
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Xiahou Dun posted:What have you done. Now I have to read everything she wrote. Ada Palmer is the loving best and has also written three sci-fi novels heavily informed by her Renaissance and Enlightenment studies. I was distant acquaintances with her when she was in Texas. She's pretty cool in person too.
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Phanatic posted:Too unbelievable. wikipedia posted:Aircraft from the carriers of Taffy 1, 2, and 3, including FM-2 Wildcats, F6F Hellcats and TBM Avengers, strafed, bombed, torpedoed, rocketed, depth-charged, fired at least one .38 caliber handgun and made numerous "dry" runs at the Japanese force when the American planes ultimately ran out of ammunition.[3][4] I'd watch this movie
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Phanatic posted:That's a really weird sidecar. A sidecar is brandy, triple sec, and lemon juice. Not gonna lie Heygal's sounds better. I assume sweet vermouth.
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HEY GUNS posted:yeah they have to fit on the screen (which is also why they're shoulder to shoulder in paintings) and the audience will have much more familiarity with 18th century movie combat than 17th. there's a danger that with 18th century drill in mind authentic 17th century practices will look too spread out and "unserious." no way I'm reading all that poo poo, but I agree - I'd be happy as a grog in a bog if there were more segregation between exacting historical realism and entertainment, spergin labels on the movie and all  HEY GUNS posted:that sounds...delicious. pop quiz: what's your favorite krautbitter, snaps and/or genever
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Ainsley McTree posted:I'd watch this movie Firing pistols out windows is a long and storied tradition that will be kept until the last pistol falls to dust.
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Tias posted:pop quiz: what's your favorite krautbitter, snaps and/or genever 
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Phanatic posted:That's a really weird sidecar. A sidecar is brandy, triple sec, and lemon juice. huh, the internet calls my thing a ferrari, i guess i hosed up the name at some point
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Milo and POTUS posted:So are there any good free wargames then, especially on steam? I did check out the wargame thread but the freebie links I found were dead as hell. Again, the advance wars series is pretty great but I kinda want to try my hand at the minutiae You could check out People's Tactics to see if you like Vic's designs.
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HEY GUNS posted:never had snaps but i did go to a reenactment where we worked for dutch people and they gave us each a shot of jenver after the battle The hell is wrong with you, snaps is the pinnacle of northern european herbal magic and tasty spirits alike. I swear before the gods and all present itt, that I will make you a good snaps. I'll even pick out extra herbs corresponding to your patron saints if I have to to get it in you.
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I'm developing a drink to celebrate John C. Reilly and the Brigada San Patricio. Preliminary recipe: 2 part Harp, 1 part Bailey's, 2 parts Clamato.
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Tias posted:The hell is wrong with you, snaps is the pinnacle of northern european herbal magic and tasty spirits alike. I still dream of spending a month or two traveling around Europe and just crashing all the local bars from Scotland to Slovakia.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I'm developing a drink to celebrate John C. Reilly and the Brigada San Patricio. Preliminary recipe: 2 part Harp, 1 part Bailey's, 2 parts Clamato.  ? chitoryu12 posted:I still dream of spending a month or two traveling around Europe and just crashing all the local bars from Scotland to Slovakia. My friend did this, but in Eastern Europe from Greece up and his liver stopped working around Serbia Slim Jim Pickens fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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Whoops. I meant this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riley_(soldier)
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Tias posted:The hell is wrong with you, snaps is the pinnacle of northern european herbal magic and tasty spirits alike. one of these days we need to hang out
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Anyone know of any cocktails named after noted European conquerors? With Caesar salad, Beef Wellington and Napoleon pastry, I have all the courses I need for a formal dinner. I just need an alcoholic beverage to go with it. If not, I was thinking something themed around Landsknechts. Do you guys think that something like a white russian but with orange liqueur to represent their usual color scheme would work?
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Rethink your dessert. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Adolfsbakelse
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Monocled Falcon posted:Anyone know of any cocktails named after noted European conquerors? http://www.bier-universum.de/datenbank/marken_und_biersuche/detail/beerdb/fuerst-wallerstein-landsknecht-bier-11.html there is also a wallenstein spirits, but i can't find it. it's p good
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Monocled Falcon posted:Anyone know of any cocktails named after noted European conquerors? There’s a Napoleon cocktail. Gin, vermouth, and orange liqueur I think Edit: also the Caesar salad isn’t named after Julius Caesar. Bobby Digital fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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