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ruddiger posted:It's like when Richard Pryor went to Africa and instead of realizing how wrong he was for calling his brothers the N word, he doubled down on it and called Africans a bunch of soft rear end bitches for not getting on the trend. This is amazing and really shows the disparity in quality between Pryor and Chapelle. And I like Chapelle but Pryor was in a tier above.
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precision posted:This is amazing and really shows the disparity in quality between Pryor and Chapelle. And I like Chapelle but Pryor was in a tier above. Pryor and basically any other comedian you could care to name.
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Jan 1, 2018 20:11
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veni veni veni posted:I guess to me if something is funny it's warranted in stand up, and it was pretty funny, more so in the new special. Less so in the first. That said, he says some stuff that is going to rub some people the wrong way and if they don't want to engage because of that, it's fine and I'm not gonna fault them for it. There's enough good comedians and comedy out there that you don't have to go 'hey this guy might say really bigoted things but it made ME laugh so it's okay,' especially after a year where it turned out that a lot of the comedians making lovely jokes turned out to actually believe and act on the lovely things they were joking about.
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I guess we have different definitions of "really lovely bigoted things" because it seemed like he was poking fun at something in the same way he would anything else to me.
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The_Rob posted:I thought comedy was supposed to be funny. Comedy is always funnier punching up than punching down.
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Nihonniboku posted:Comedy is always funnier punching up than punching down. That's not true at all. Comedy comes from taboos, subverting expectations, and catching people off guard. It has nothing to do with punching up or down.
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Jan 1, 2018 20:56
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veni veni veni posted:I guess we have different definitions of "really lovely bigoted things" because it seemed like he was poking fun at something in the same way he would anything else to me. When that thing is invalidating an aspect of a person's identity that is constantly invalidated by the culture at large it's a lovely and bigoted thing my dude.
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Mr. Maltose posted:When that thing is invalidating an aspect of a person's identity that is constantly invalidated by the culture at large it's a lovely and bigoted thing my dude. Are we talking about the first special? Because I agree to some extent there. I'm talking about the new one though.
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The_Rob posted:That's not true at all. Comedy comes from taboos, subverting expectations, and catching people off guard. It has nothing to do with punching up or down. I didn't say punching down can't be funny. It's just generally not as funny, and a lot riskier. You can make a subversive joke, and still have it fail. Subversion isn't inherently funny. You have to make it funny. Chapelle not only didn't make it funny, he doubled down on it instead. Like I said earlier, Chappelle's comedy is stuck 20 years in the past. I wasn't living in America in 2003 when he was deigned a comedy genius, and by the time I came back, he had fled into hiding. So I don't have any nostalgia around Chappelle Show or him in general like a lot of people. I'm not some prude, and I'm not naive about comedy. I watch a lot of comedy specials, and listen to pretty much exclusively comedian hosted podcasts. I watched Chappelle's last special, and I didn't think it was very funny, and found that joke in particular to be in poor taste. Hearing that his new special is along the same lines, I said I was going to pass.
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I like that he's sort of an outsider in the modern comedy scene. there are a lot of younger comedians I think are great, but I think they are getting predictable. And just because you don't find him funny doesn't mean he isn't funny. I think if you went out and took a poll you'd find that is a pretty wildly unpopular opinion.
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veni veni veni posted:I like that he's sort of an outsider in the modern comedy scene. there are a lot of younger comedians I think are great, but I think they are getting predictable. And just because you don't find him funny doesn't mean he isn't funny. I think if you went out and took a poll you'd find that is a pretty wildly unpopular opinion. If you gauge comedy on a populist scale you're going to walk away thinking Larry the Cable Guy, Dane Cook, Jeff Dunham, and Kevin Hart are the funniest people alive.
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Sarchasm posted:If you gauge comedy on a populist scale you're going to walk away thinking Larry the Cable Guy, Dane Cook, Jeff Dunham, and Kevin Hart are the funniest people alive. All of those people are extremely talented comedians though. None of them are really my kind of humor but they are super skilled respected comedians.
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I thought it was pretty funny, gf and I laughed a lot throughout the special. Then we went out for champagne it was a good night
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Jan 1, 2018 21:28
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Chappelle just does his own thing and I like it. He's not always right. Sometimes he comes off as sort of an rear end in a top hat, but I can comfortably say he is a really funny guy. I'm honestly getting a bit exhausted with modern comedy being a contest to see who can be the most woke.
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Jan 1, 2018 21:33
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I agree, considering other people as people is just boring these days.
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Jan 1, 2018 21:35
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veni veni veni posted:Chappelle just does his own thing and I like it. He's not always right. Sometimes he comes off as sort of an rear end in a top hat, but I can comfortably say he is a really funny guy. I'm honestly getting a bit exhausted with modern comedy being a contest to see who can be the most woke. Yeah that's absolutely not what modern comedy is at all
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flatluigi posted:Yeah that's absolutely not what modern comedy is at all Do you have any suggestions? For comedians or anything like that?
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Jan 1, 2018 21:52
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The worst thing about Chappelle is when he slaps his leg with the mic. It enrages me.
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The_Rob posted:All of those people are extremely talented comedians though. None of them are really my kind of humor but they are super skilled respected comedians. Especially the one with the puppets. Enough of this woke poo poo, just give me a puppet that talks about boners.
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Sarchasm posted:Especially the one with the puppets. Dad?
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I'm really digging La Casa De Papel as someone who loves heist films and television. I'm about halfway through. I also have only watched the Callister Black Mirror but liked it a lot. I've only seen one other Black Mirror episode which was the one with Bryce Dallas Howard.
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Jan 2, 2018 02:39
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The new season of Black Mirror was pretty good, the second episode was kinda weak but it was solid overall.
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In less polarizing Stand up news, I really like the new Todd Barry special. Judd Apatow did his first stand up in 20 years for a new Netflix special and I hope it's his last one for the next 20. Dude is terrible.
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The_Rob posted:All of those people are extremely talented comedians though. None of them are really my kind of humor but they are super skilled respected comedians. Ok bullshit on Jeff Dunham, he just acts out racist jokes other people made up through puppets.
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Finished up season 4 of Black Mirror. My general reaction is that it feels like the magic is gone. This season seemed to really just try for "shocking tales" that also include technology, rather than a show about how technology and/or social media could change society and personal interactions. There was also a lot of, well, lazy stuff like the magic DNA machine from the first episode, all the way to all the consciousness swapping in the last episode (which was probably the weakest of the season, I think). I've seen a lot of folks not like the second episode, but to me that and Episode 4/Hang the DJ were the only ones that really felt like it had any heart, and even then they were both lackluster.
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The new Todd Barry special is really good. And I liked Bright actually. Buddy cop flick with some fantasy/sci fi elements thrown in, good action scenes. I dug it. LogisticEarth posted:Finished up season 4 of Black Mirror. My general reaction is that it feels like the magic is gone. This season seemed to really just try for "shocking tales" that also include technology, rather than a show about how technology and/or social media could change society and personal interactions. There was also a lot of, well, lazy stuff like the magic DNA machine from the first episode, all the way to all the consciousness swapping in the last episode (which was probably the weakest of the season, I think). I've seen a lot of folks not like the second episode, but to me that and Episode 4/Hang the DJ were the only ones that really felt like it had any heart, and even then they were both lackluster. I'm cool with it just kind of going a little more straightforward. They've covered a lot of ground story and writing wise in the past seasons already so a "shocking tales" season is alright in my book.
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Dave Chapelle's jokes about gay dudes are really not funny. Not even offensive, just really not funny. Other than that his new specials are okay. Not great, but the world's been short on great stand up in general for a while
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veni veni veni posted:Judd Apatow did his first stand up in 20 years for a new Netflix special and I hope it's his last one for the next 20. Dude is terrible. I enjoyed it! Not memorable, but very funny in parts. It was a little jarring when some jokes were relatable to an average guy like me, and then the setup to his next joke was like "Well I was asked to throw out the first pitch for the Mets..." or "Yeah I leased a Porsche because I have more money than I know what to do with".
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Dave's loving incredible when he's talking about issues he understands. Man is intelligent, eloquent, and god drat hilarious with a natural talent for telling a story. He's quite a bit less so when he's trying to squeeze some cheap jokes out about something he clearly doesn't understand very well.
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tweet my meat posted:Dave's loving incredible when he's talking about issues he understands. Man is intelligent, eloquent, and god drat hilarious with a natural talent for telling a story. He's quite a bit less so when he's trying to squeeze some cheap jokes out about something he clearly doesn't understand very well. I agree with this. I guess my point earlier was that I think he's a good comic, and I don't think his somewhat misguided LGBT stuff is worth pulling out the pitchforks over. You can disagree with him and still recognize that there is still another hour and 45 minutes worth of good jokes. BJPaskoff posted:I enjoyed it! Not memorable, but very funny in parts. It was a little jarring when some jokes were relatable to an average guy like me, and then the setup to his next joke was like "Well I was asked to throw out the first pitch for the Mets..." or "Yeah I leased a Porsche because I have more money than I know what to do with". To me it was mostly his delivery. He just felt like a fish out of water.
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The only jokes I laughed at while watching Chappelle, was the trans jokes.
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Tardcore posted:Ok bullshit on Jeff Dunham, he just acts out racist jokes other people made up through puppets. Yeah I should have said most. Dunham is def an exception.
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Jesus Christ people, they're only jokes. How do you live outside in the real world if a single joke bothers you so much. Do you need therapy if a person looks at you the wrong way?
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cstang posted:Jesus Christ people, they're only jokes. How do you live outside in the real world if a single joke bothers you so much. Do you need therapy if a person looks at you the wrong way? idk man im more worried 4 u judging by how much ur reading into the potential lives of ppl because they disagree w/ u on comedy
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cstang posted:Jesus Christ people, they're only jokes. How do you live outside in the real world if a single joke bothers you so much. Do you need therapy if a person looks at you the wrong way? How do you live outside in the real world when a thoughtful conversation about comedy bothers you so much? Do you need therapy if a person disagrees with you about comedy?
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Nihonniboku posted:How do you live outside in the real world when a thoughtful conversation about comedy bothers you so much? Do you need therapy if a person disagrees with you about comedy? BUT HOW DO YOU LIVE IF THIS GUYS POST BUGS YOU SO MUCH?? DO U NEED A GOOD CRY ON THE PHONE W/UR MOM IN THE BATHTUB WITH CANDLES TO GET OVER IT??
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How Gay is Pakistan? just came out on Netflix and it's very very good.
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