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Dabo has built Clemson into a powerhouse. Saban is the best coach in college football, but Dabo is right behind, with Urban Meyer. Those are maybe the only three teams that can have a rebuilding year and still win 10 or 11 games.
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MourningView posted:Gonna miss watching Baker Mayfield play college football a whole lot. Yup. Baker has easily risen up to be my favorite Sooner of all time. I’m not as sad about this loss as I thought I would be. It was still a drat good game and I’m really excited to see what Riley can accomplish in his career. Having Kyler Murray at QB next year adds a whole new dime soon to the offense. That said I hope it’s the last we’ve seen of Mike Stoops.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:26
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Jan 2, 2018 17:43
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D.N. Nation posted:Yes, clearly Richt had no history of making GBS threads the bed against demonstratively inferior Florida/Tennessee teams, and when down multiple scores in a big game, his teams always played with steely resolve and were the kings of comebacks. Didn't richt want someone else and get schottenheimer forced on him by the AD? KIM JONG TRILL posted:Yup. Baker has easily risen up to be my favorite Sooner of all time. Watching Stoops use the same defensive sets he used against Big 12 offenses against Georgia's power formations was painful. Michel and Chubb were totally untouched on almost all those big run. That game would have been over way sooner if Georgia had spent less of the first half dicking around with spread looks and trying to get a passing game going.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:46
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Jim Harbaugh is an embarrassment I root against Michigan not because I dislike them, but because I intensely dislike Harbaugh. I will always take pleasure when his mouth writes checks that he can't cash.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:48
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Komet posted:Dabo has built Clemson into a powerhouse. Saban is the best coach in college football, but Dabo is right behind, with Urban Meyer. Those are maybe the only three teams that can have a rebuilding year and still win 10 or 11 games. Dabo of all people being a top tier HC is just stupid. He was a goofy WR coach for the longest time and he somehow built bloody Clemson into a juggernaut. There are a lot of football minds smarter than Dabo that wont have his level of success.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:50
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UCF national champions IMO. They won their division and beat auburn and have the same or more AP top 25 wins than bama. Down with the establishment Burn Tuscaloosa to the ground
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Jan 2, 2018 17:52
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dabo of all people being a top tier HC is just stupid. He was a goofy WR coach for the longest time and he somehow built bloody Clemson into a juggernaut. There are a lot of football minds smarter than Dabo that wont have his level of success. He's really good at overall program management stuff and did an awesome job hiring good assistants and giving them a lot of freedom. There's more than one way to be a great head coach.
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LeeMajors posted:It was just me being pissed about Bama getting infinite benefit of the doubt when they don’t even win their division. Nothing major, but I’m sure it was annoying. Look on the bright side, we might see Georgia get slowly smothered to death.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:54
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MourningView posted:Didn't richt want someone else and get schottenheimer forced on him by the AD? Richt wanted Shaw, Riley, some dude from the Panthers, and that good OC from maybe Western Kentucky but was shut down the whole way. It sucks for Richt but worked out for everyone.
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MourningView posted:Watching Stoops use the same defensive sets he used against Big 12 offenses against Georgia's power formations was painful. Michel and Chubb were totally untouched on almost all those big run. That game would have been over way sooner if Georgia had spent less of the first half dicking around with spread looks and trying to get a passing game going. Mike Stoops gets paid $870k a year
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Jan 2, 2018 18:09
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PostNouveau posted:I thought this was also a "rebuilding" year for Bama? I don't get the concept of a blue blood like Bama or Clemson having rebuilding years at all, like they're some AAC squad working off a core of one awesome recruiting class three years ago.
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MourningView posted:Watching Stoops use the same defensive sets he used against Big 12 offenses against Georgia's power formations was painful. Michel and Chubb were totally untouched on almost all those big run. That game would have been over way sooner if Georgia had spent less of the first half dicking around with spread looks and trying to get a passing game going. Listening to Gary Patterson go crazy about this on the film room channel on ESPNNews was fascinating. He was a revelation and hope he is doing the same for the national title game. I wonder if there is a copy of it somewhere, if you haven't seen it, it's worth it to go back and watch it. Chubb broke 3-4 tackles on his biggest TD run - OU had it well defended, but just couldn't execute. Some of the Michel runs were outright ridiculous though, enormous holes with no defenders.
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MourningView posted:Watching Stoops use the same defensive sets he used against Big 12 offenses against Georgia's power formations was painful. Michel and Chubb were totally untouched on almost all those big run. That game would have been over way sooner if Georgia had spent less of the first half dicking around with spread looks and trying to get a passing game going. It's hard to complain about the OC when you outscored the other team in the highest-scoring Rose Bowl in history, but had the Dawgs faltered in OT, that they took half the game to do what they do best against a team unable to stop it would've been questioned forever.
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PostNouveau posted:I thought this was also a "rebuilding" year for Bama? nah that was last year. it just seems like bama is rebuilding because they're starting a simpleton at qb
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MourningView posted:He's really good at overall program management stuff and did an awesome job hiring good assistants and giving them a lot of freedom. There's more than one way to be a great head coach. Agree. You don't have to be the most brilliant X's and O's mind to be a highly successful college football coach. Penn State has a ways to go to catch up to Ohio State and Clemson, but Franklin is a similar type of program manager coach that knows how to recognize coaching talent and get the most out of his athletes. You can't just credit Joe Moorhead with Penn State's success the last two years (although he's certainly a huge factor). As we saw in the bowl game, Penn State isn't going to collapse in on itself offensively next year with Ricky Rahne.
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buddhanc posted:Burn Tuscaloosa to the ground Come at us, the Yankees tried that shot before and it didn’t take. God himself tried in 2011 and you know how that turned out.
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Jan 2, 2018 18:24
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Emron posted:Absolutely, it almost seemed like a statement from Saban to run a pick play there, considering that Clemson won last year with one. Yeah. Watch the defenders at the far right of the field in each video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IVRNumSofg&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVOqaN2MBVk
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Jan 2, 2018 18:31
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Sab0921 posted:Listening to Gary Patterson go crazy about this on the film room channel on ESPNNews was fascinating. He was a revelation and hope he is doing the same for the national title game. I wonder if there is a copy of it somewhere, if you haven't seen it, it's worth it to go back and watch it. Patterson was good but god I wish he had shut the gently caress up occasionally so you could hear other people. He was just shout rasping over the top of everyone else. Holgerson in particular would have been nice to hear from more when OU was on offense, and Babers and Federoa had been awesome in past years and couldn't get a word in edgewise this year. I should not be totally unable to recognized the voice of Major Applewhite after watching like 8 goddamn hours of television that ostensibly featured him in a prominent role! Chubb had one run in the second half where he legitimately had to break a bunch of tackles but otherwise all either of them had to do was run very fast in a straight line through a hole the size of a small tank
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Jan 2, 2018 18:37
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Zwabu posted:Yeah. Watch the defenders at the far right of the field in each video. It was a block started at the LOS it's not the same thing I don't give a poo poo if it was a pick anyway, the Alabama fans complaining about last year are dumb, that poo poo never gets called, and we run the exact same poo poo frequently But the fat man TD wasn't a pick
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Probably the most relevant question for Clemson is if FSU rebound or backslide hard with Jimbo leaving. If they don't, Clemson probably skates the Atlantic and are probably beating Miami again away from the playoffs next year.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:It was still a drat good game and I’m really excited to see what Riley can accomplish in his career. I won't say I expected him to be bad exactly, but I did expect some growing pains for Riley in his first year as head coach and not super-recruiter/OC. I suppose we'll see how it goes breaking in a new quarterback next year and hiring assistants if he does get rid of Stoops at DC, but if he's actually good that's pretty annoying if you're not an OU fan. Dude's still only 34 years old.
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Scionix posted:It was a block started at the LOS it's not the same thing Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't block more than 3 yards downfield in college and then throw a pass past the line of scrimmage, right? Hell, it got called early for that offsetting penalty on #73 and he wasn't any further downfield than on the goal line play. So maybe it's not a true 'pick' play where you're trying to get around the rule, instead it was just 'destroy those two guys with one blocker and make the refs call it gently caress them'
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MourningView posted:Patterson was good but god I wish he had shut the gently caress up occasionally so you could hear other people. He was just shout rasping over the top of everyone else. Holgerson in particular would have been nice to hear from more when OU was on offense, and Babers and Federoa had been awesome in past years and couldn't get a word in edgewise this year. I should not be totally unable to recognized the voice of Major Applewhite after watching like 8 goddamn hours of television that ostensibly featured him in a prominent role! THIS He's clearly a great defensive mind, but holy hell let someone else talk dude. I wish they'd bring in more defensive minded guys. Bret Bielema used to be a DC, but even I didn't know that until I googled it and his teams were known more for huge OLs and running the ball a lot, moreso than their defenses. Maybe it's just hard to find defensive guys that are good TV guys. I remember Pat Narduzzi being at least okay when he was on it.
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mastershakeman posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't block more than 3 yards downfield in college and then throw a pass past the line of scrimmage, right? Hell, it got called early for that offsetting penalty on #73 and he wasn't any further downfield than on the goal line play. So maybe it's not a true 'pick' play where you're trying to get around the rule, instead it was just 'destroy those two guys with one blocker and make the refs call it gently caress them' You're right, RPOs are dumb as poo poo and make playing defense stupid as hell because people can throw while their lineman are loving blocking linebackers in the 2nd level. However this is mostly to the detriment of Alabama in hilarious fashion (see, 2014 A&M, 2015 and 2016 Ole Miss, 20xx Auburn), so it's actually cool and good
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Watching teams like Georgia and Oklahoma succeed after moving on from very successful head coaches, and seeing young dudes like Riley and Frost put together monster teams and call creative and entertaining offenses, just makes me sadder and sadder about LSU.
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Scionix posted:You're right, RPOs are dumb as poo poo and make playing defense stupid as hell because people can throw while their lineman are loving blocking linebackers in the 2nd level. yeah i remember screaming during the kick six iron bowl about linemen being way downfield but the refs dont care and neither does anyone else because more points=better than both NFL + college need to go to a hard line rule of no downfield blocking at all prior to pass , but also just allow offensive holding so you can get sweet deep bombs from 7 step drops and speaking of deep bombs lol at hurts' terrible fleaflicker 10 yards underthrown
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The RPO has played a major factor in pretty much every notable Bama loss in the last 5 years, so it’s not unsurprising that Saban is going to use it himself.
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Refs called UGA for a downfield lineman in the '14 Auburn game which was hilarious because 1) it was in an Auburn game but not against Auburn when it was like half their offense at the time and 2) they didn't even get the call right (the UGA OL was all around the LOS).
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I wonder how much ratings are going to dip for UGA Alabama. Wasn't the LSU - Alabama rematch pretty low too?
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buddhanc posted:UCF national champions IMO. They won their division and beat auburn and have the same or more AP top 25 wins than bama. This guy gets it.
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pillsburysoldier posted:I wonder how much ratings are going to dip for UGA Alabama. Wasn't the LSU - Alabama rematch pretty low too? This one isn't a rematch from the regular season, so it's not the same thing. It'll be down from last year but I think it'll be fine
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KKKLIP ART posted:Apparently ratings for the rose bowl were pretty crazy how do you think the ratings for the SECCG in a week will be?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Just scrap the ineligible man downfield penalty. There's no need for it anymore. That would radically alter the sport FYI.
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MourningView posted:Patterson was good but god I wish he had shut the gently caress up occasionally so you could hear other people. He was just shout rasping over the top of everyone else. Holgerson in particular would have been nice to hear from more when OU was on offense, and Babers and Federoa had been awesome in past years and couldn't get a word in edgewise this year. I should not be totally unable to recognized the voice of Major Applewhite after watching like 8 goddamn hours of television that ostensibly featured him in a prominent role! That's fair - he was very overbearing. This is the first time I've seen the coaches film room - it's pretty great. And yeah - this is embarrassing for OU. However, they decimated the Big XII on the way to the playoffs for the 2nd time in 3 years. Not sure you can really fire Mike Stoops. https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/947994277270958081 https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/947971341109682176
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Just scrap the ineligible man downfield penalty. There's no need for it anymore. If you want an image of the future, imagine a 320 pound offensive tackle blocking a free safety on play action post routes forever
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