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install the iron sheik as shah sgt. slaughter from the time he was a saddam supporter during the gulf war can be the prime minister
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tired: guyz catalonian independence is a russian conspiracy wired: guyz iran protests are a wahhabist conspiracy
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guys im pretty sure these soviets are just a german psyop. lenin was sent back to russia to undermine the government. down with lenin and his german imperialist stooges
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Yossarian-22 posted:guys im pretty sure these soviets are just a german psyop. lenin was sent back to russia to undermine the government. down with lenin and his german imperialist stooges alexander parvus was certainly an interesting man
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zegermans posted:loogs once probed me for laughing at jontron being a persian white supremacist jontron is literally the grandson of one of the shah's government ministers
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Darkman Fanpage posted:install jontron as shah of iran Does his parrot qualify for citizenship? Cause I'd go for the parrot.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Saying "I stand with the poor & oppressed" is a hollow platitude half the world away from your desk chair or bus seat. Being poor and oppressed doesn't make you a revolutionary agent either.
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anyone with fascist leanings would already be supporting the iranian government, and not the protests, because the ideology that khomeini espouses is effectively already 'islamic fascism' (all social problems stem from a lack of piety in Islam, all other social groups that aren't muslims are inherently enemies of muslims, and should be treated as such, etc etc) seriously, read up on the stuff he says, that's basically the long and short of it so talking about these protests as being potentially fascistic is being incredibly stupid, that's not happening
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rudatron posted:anyone with fascist leanings would already be supporting the iranian government, and not the protests, because the ideology that khomeini espouses is effectively already 'islamic fascism' (all social problems stem from a lack of piety in Islam, all other social groups that aren't muslims are inherently enemies of muslims, and should be treated as such, etc etc) do we really need to revive the term "islamic fascism" in 2018
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Jan 3, 2018 07:03
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'authoritarian reactionary conservatism' is more accurate but less snappy
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Yossarian-22 posted:do we really need to revive the term "islamic fascism" in 2018
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iran is more like francoist spain than italian or german fascism
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Eh, I’d definitely call Iran an authoritarian dictatorship, but not at all a fascist state, Iran is more like communist China, a particular class who collectively rule the country (the clerics and the military) with some space given to controlled reformist and some opposition. For actual full scale fascism Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, Algeria, most of the gulf, etc. are actual full scale fascist countries that won’t tolerate even a minuscule amount of actual politics occurring in the country. I remember once I read about a time Mohammad Khatami at the last couple years of being president when he went to meet a bunch of students at a giant hall, the students collectively started to scream and shout at him for not being able to fulfill his promises, they hurled insults and asked him tough question and after he was done responding and talking with them he basically said “ you guys are very fortunate you can talk to me as harshly as you’re doing now, if we had been any of the Arab countries you’d all be shot and in prison” and he was 100% right about that. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 08:06 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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yeah francoist spain is even a bit much because they at least allow somewhat democratic elections with real if limited consequences.
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Yossarian-22 posted:do we really need to revive the term "islamic fascism" in 2018 we can abbreviate it as islamo-fascism like a FOX pundit
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lets be fair obamunism is the real islamofascism
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no obama is the muslim communist
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thanks for further demonstrating that the state can mobilize way more people than the demonstrators, I guess.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/947218951251136513 that’s probably because western media coverage does this thing where they wait for confirmation instead of blindly trusting a ten second terror org provided video fragment also lol https://twitter.com/deniardianta/status/947288844352634885 also the iran govt said nothing about it happening apparently
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jeez pener you’re really going all in trying to defend the iranian government lmao just admit they’re poo poo.
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I only follow @I_Miss_The_Shah for all my protest news.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:that’s probably because western media coverage does this thing where they wait for confirmation instead of blindly trusting a ten second terror org provided video fragment https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...m=.15f07cde2c39 Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 16:55 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Eh, I’d definitely call Iran an authoritarian dictatorship, but not at all a fascist state, Iran is more like communist China, a particular class who collectively rule the country (the clerics and the military) with some space given to controlled reformist and some opposition. For actual full scale fascism Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, Algeria, most of the gulf, etc. are actual full scale fascist countries that won’t tolerate even a minuscule amount of actual politics occurring in the country. It gets more specific though. Charismatic strongmen with large, educated constituencies are actually the most dangerous because they buy off the public through warmaking (again, Hitler's Germany). And the reason the bureaucratic regimes are less likely is because the bureaucracy itself and the factions within it are countervailing factors. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 16:58 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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pener's anti imperialist comrades in arms https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/948490513103183873
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I said the crackdown would come, didn't I? This was the only realistic outcome.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:that’s probably because western media coverage does this thing where they wait for confirmation instead of blindly trusting a ten second terror org provided video fragment lol you actually believe this don't you? That's precious.
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None of those countries are fascist. When will you idiots stop calling everything you don't like Fascism?
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:pener's anti imperialist comrades in arms Yes, the trustworthy source of some pro-Shah guy who's living in Malta. Cerebral Bore posted:lol you actually believe this don't you? That's precious. He's a moron.
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/948564713843101697 rip
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The details of any report are usually questionable, especially after so many American and GCC accounts have just actively spread disinformation over the last week. At some point the Basij are going to get unleashed though, and it's not too incredulous to think they have been recently.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:thanks for further demonstrating that the state can mobilize way more people than the demonstrators, I guess. Pro-government rallies are very dangerous/stupid. Look at what happened to Ceausescu.
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