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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Thwomp posted:

I’d like to think the guy who was going to follow the latest crash was just like “welp, I’ll just go the longer way.”

For us, it’s another special event. A truck has been can openered.

But for that guy, it was just Sunday.

He totally was! In the other camera angle, his blinker is on. Once the idiot crashed: blinker off, go straight instead.

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Moto42
Jul 14, 2006

:dukedog:

Platystemon posted:

...if you stop for long enough it does eventually turn green, even if the truck is still there.
I call bullshit.

I paused the video for five minutes and it never turned green.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

BrainMeats posted:

I like the water curtain in front of this Sydney tunnel.


A) It wouldn't work for the 11'8" bridge because it needs a darker background to contrast the image.

B) The "stupid cowboys" have been ignoring it:

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/ride-them-cowboys-when-sydney-truckers-go-wrong/news-story/57241688c6627edd5525c44e18562504

quote:

Last year there were 25 incidents of over height trucks trying to squeeze themselves through the Harbour tunnel, the M5 and the Airport Tunnel.

This year there has already been five trucks stuck, creating citywide traffic chaos.

Sydney Harbour Tunnel and the Airport Tunnel are the top two tunnels involved in incidents.

NSW’s Roads Minister Duncan Gay laid the blame squarely behind the wheel on the cowboys in the industry who continue to defy a raft of changes including alerts, warning lights, infra-red height detectors and layby areas for trucks to pull over before entering tunnels.

“Not to mention introducing hefty fines and penalties, yet there are still stupid cowboys that give it ‘a crack’,” Mr Gay said.

As recently as October:

http://www.kiis1065.com.au/newsroom/sydney-harbour-tunnel-closed-due-to-overweight-vehicle

quote:

If you’re planning to head into the city now or at any point this afternoon, it might be best to use Victoria Rd, or the Harbour Bridge.

Sydney Harbour Tunnel is closed southbound due to an over height vehicle. Motorists are being diverted on to Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
the trucking industry is pretty hosed up

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Synthbuttrange posted:

Why not hang some chains before the bridge tho?



The road to the left and right is a business road and trucks turn down there to make deliveries. You can't hang those things earlier because trucks that need to turn left/right at the intersections will bump into it all day long.

Also that water curtain is a pipe dream and won't work at all during the daytime.

We've been through this all before people!

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Persistent Hamprince posted:

the trucking industry is pretty hosed up

The only way you'll deter that behavior is to suspend the trucker's licence on the first violation and fine whoever they're hauling for, and revoke the commercial driver's licence on the second violation and levy crippling fines on the company.

I doubt most of those "cowboys" are doing it because they're just feeling that badass, they're doing it because their employers are setting up unreasonable schedules, and until you make the company gun shy they'll keep doing it.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Memento posted:

It's a hire truck, so I assume someone at the hire office looked at his license. Don't you get your license physically taken away if it's suspended?

I don't know how true it is, but in the Youtube comments, somebody said the truck had air brakes, which means you need a CDL to drive it, which means it was probably leased to a company and not a person.

So somebody's about to lose their job.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

FCKGW posted:

The road to the left and right is a business road and trucks turn down there to make deliveries. You can't hang those things earlier because trucks that need to turn left/right at the intersections will bump into it all day long.

Also that water curtain is a pipe dream and won't work at all during the daytime.

We've been through this all before people!

Use the monetization from the YouTube hits to pay for the damage and keep feeding the bridge more trucks.

TVs Ian posted:

I don't know how true it is, but in the Youtube comments, somebody said the truck had air brakes, which means you need a CDL to drive it, which means it was probably leased to a company and not a person.

So somebody's about to lose their job.

I don't have a CDL and Penske has tossed me the keys for an air brake truck because there was nothing else on the lot when I showed up to rent a straight job for lift gate work. They'll give you what you ask for and don't always scrutinize endorsements.

Ornamental Dingbat fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Jan 4, 2018

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

TVs Ian posted:

I don't know how true it is, but in the Youtube comments, somebody said the truck had air brakes, which means you need a CDL to drive it, which means it was probably leased to a company and not a person.

You definitely don't need a CDL to drive a truck with air brakes. The L restriction on a CDL means you didn't take and/or pass the air brake part of the CDL test and aren't allowed to drive a commercial vehicle with air brakes, but having air brakes does not automatically classify a truck as a commercial vehicle.

Penske will actually rent you basically the same truck with different weight ratings. Both have air brakes, as they note all their medium duty trucks do.

CDL: https://www.pensketruckrental.com/commercial-truck-rental/commercial-trucks/medium-duty-trucks/22-26-foot-box-truck-CDL-required/

Non-CDL: https://www.pensketruckrental.com/commercial-truck-rental/commercial-trucks/medium-duty-trucks/22-26-foot-box-truck/

The non-CDL truck probably has a different rear axle and rear suspension (but maybe not, sometimes they're just rated lower) and that's pretty much it.


What gets really fun is that depending on the state it's sometimes possible to legally drive a commercial vehicle for personal use without any special licensing.

At least here in Ohio the same part of the law that exempts RVs and emergency response vehicles from CDL requirements also has these two parts:

ORC 4506.03 posted:

(7) A commercial motor vehicle that is operated for nonbusiness purposes. "Operated for nonbusiness purposes" means that the commercial motor vehicle is not used in commerce as "commerce" is defined in 49 C.F.R. 383.5, as amended, and is not regulated by the public utilities commission pursuant to Chapter 4905., 4921., or 4923. of the Revised Code.

(8) A motor vehicle that is designed primarily for the transportation of goods and not persons, while that motor vehicle is being used for the occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation and not in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise;

Which seems to say that if I was able to convince someone to hand me the keys to a Freightliner with a 53' trailer I could legally use it to move myself with just a standard driver's license.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Jan 4, 2018

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
The "overheight must turn" sign is bloody stupid design.

Something like, "DANGER: STOP! Your vehicle is too tall to proceed!" and even flashing lights maybe would be a thousand times better.

The sign they have right now is too passive, drivers don't realise it refers to them, so they keep on driving.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Zil posted:

Let's just head off the derail. No the bridge nor the road can be moved.

Most things can be done. It just hasn't been deemed cost effective.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
youd probably need a dude with a big gun there 24/7 to keep people from ramming the bridge, no amount of signals are going to stop a dedicated moron

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

fins
May 31, 2011

Floss Finder

FCKGW posted:

The road to the left and right is a business road and trucks turn down there to make deliveries. You can't hang those things earlier because trucks that need to turn left/right at the intersections will bump into it all day long.

Also that water curtain is a pipe dream and won't work at all during the daytime.

We've been through this all before people!

How about a sewage curtain...

BlankIsBeautiful
Apr 4, 2008

Feeling a little inadequate?

Persistent Hamprince posted:

the trucking industry is pretty hosed up

Azhais posted:

I doubt most of those "cowboys" are doing it because they're just feeling that badass, they're doing it because their employers are setting up unreasonable schedules, and until you make the company gun shy they'll keep doing it.

This is sometimes true, however, I worked at a trucking company where this driver is employed, and I knew him personally (I quit there over a year ago):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZKgOYGP0aY

I can tell you from personal experience, he's a moron. A complete, utter, idiot. Like, "how the living gently caress do you still have a CDL" level of idiocy. He constantly bucked every single DOT rule whenever he had the chance. I'm almost certain he barely received any admonishment from the company, and "the accident" became part of the "hilarious hijinks" that the drivers toss around in the driver's lounge. Many times it really is just that "the trucking industry is pretty hosed up".

I maintain to this day he should've been fired on the spot, but, nope, he still works there.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

FCKGW posted:

We've been through this all before people!

What if they just lowered the road crushed all the trucks that go under the bridge into tiny cubes and displayed them as a warning to others

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Thwomp posted:

For us, it’s another special event. A truck has been can openered.

But for that guy, it was just Sunday.
:bisonyes:

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Gorilla Salad posted:

The "overheight must turn" sign is bloody stupid design.

Something like, "DANGER: STOP! Your vehicle is too tall to proceed!" and even flashing lights maybe would be a thousand times better.

The sign they have right now is too passive, drivers don't realise it refers to them, so they keep on driving.

Jesus christ, Marie. THOSE THINGS EXIST. The Must turn sign is the VERY LAST loving THING. There are numerous " if you hit this bit, you are too tall for the bridge " poo poo.
You really think that all there exists is one singular sign?


We go through this EVERY SINGLE TIME someone brings up the bridge. PEOPLE HAVE PLENTY OF WARNING BUT EVERYONE IS A GODDAMN RETARD

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

And for every truck that smacks into the bridge and get laughed at there are probably several hundred who see the warnings, take the correct route and don't end up on 11foot8.com.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
They should just put spike strips down. If you pop the tires, the trucks will drop a few inches.

Problem solved.

:getin:

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



How the hell do you still have a job after wrecking your cargo, and something that's really expensive, like a crane, on top of that.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

HardDiskD posted:

How the hell do you still have a job after wrecking your cargo, and something that's really expensive, like a crane, on top of that.

Probably all covered by insurance.

BlankIsBeautiful
Apr 4, 2008

Feeling a little inadequate?

HardDiskD posted:

How the hell do you still have a job after wrecking your cargo, and something that's really expensive, like a crane, on top of that.

JB50 posted:

Probably all covered by insurance.

Yeah, insurance covered it from what I know. But the question does remain, how is the guy still driving? This wasn't his first "incident" either. I mean he broke trailers like I've never seen.

For what it's worth, that company is hanging on by a thread at this point, and I don't see them lasting past the second quarter this year. They'll be bought out, I'm sure.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

HardDiskD posted:

How the hell do you still have a job after wrecking your cargo, and something that's really expensive, like a crane, on top of that.


JB50 posted:

Probably all covered by insurance.

This, also, the he probably has the owner of the company loving a hooker or blowing someone on video.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

xsuperkidx
Sep 21, 2000

Bread Liar

calmly puts my garbage in the bin... pulls twigs out of my hair as I walk away.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus



Russia?

xsuperkidx posted:

calmly puts my garbage in the bin... pulls twigs out of my hair as I walk away.

Russia.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

fins posted:

How about a sewage curtain...

It's Durham. Who would notice?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Johnny Aztec posted:

We go through this EVERY SINGLE TIME someone brings up the bridge. PEOPLE HAVE PLENTY OF WARNING BUT EVERYONE IS A GODDAMN RETARD

And if the signs don't work then they're bad signs.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

There must be something awesome behind that bridge if they don't want me to go there.

-e-
This is not a bridge of honor.

Lurking Haro fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jan 5, 2018

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


It's where they keep all the hot lady box trucks

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Gorilla Salad posted:

And if the signs don't work then they're bad signs.

Let me tell you something about signs. At my last job, there was a door that some repairs were done to and it needed about 2-3 hours to cure.

We posted a sign saying "PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR" in 72-point type. Customers still came through it.

We added a traffic cone in front of the door. Customers still came through it.

The engineer on duty drove screws in around the door frame to physically stop customers from opening the door. 20 minutes later, the screws had been torn out and customers were coming through the goddamn door.

We put three signs on either side of this loving glass door, put an orange pylon about 4 feet tall directly in front of it, re-screwed it shut. We taped caution tape across the frame. When I went inside to put caution tape across the inside of the door as well, guess what greeted me through the glass?

A motherfucking customer tugging on the goddamn door handle and looking angry as poo poo when I wouldn't open it for him and told him to go around.

Do I need to tell you the moral of this story. Would that be good stuff.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

xsuperkidx posted:

calmly puts my garbage in the bin... pulls twigs out of my hair as I walk away.

it's not like the tree can fall again

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin


North Korea Best Korea.

From here: http://www.ericlafforgue.com/category/stories/

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

Let me tell you something about signs. At my last job, there was a door that some repairs were done to and it needed about 2-3 hours to cure.

We posted a sign saying "PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR" in 72-point type. Customers still came through it.

We added a traffic cone in front of the door. Customers still came through it.

The engineer on duty drove screws in around the door frame to physically stop customers from opening the door. 20 minutes later, the screws had been torn out and customers were coming through the goddamn door.

We put three signs on either side of this loving glass door, put an orange pylon about 4 feet tall directly in front of it, re-screwed it shut. We taped caution tape across the frame. When I went inside to put caution tape across the inside of the door as well, guess what greeted me through the glass?

A motherfucking customer tugging on the goddamn door handle and looking angry as poo poo when I wouldn't open it for him and told him to go around.

Do I need to tell you the moral of this story. Would that be good stuff.

Was working at a client site that was closed while we did our thing. Signs taped to every individual door on the outside, on the inside doors of the vestibule, and signs on stands inside and out that the building was closed, go to X instead for help. People still came in and were confused that poo poo was torn apart while a bunch of trades people in PPE looked at them like the idiots they were. I walked some lady back out and pointed out the signs (it contained the address of where they should have been going instead, this was a professional setting not retail) and the dumb bitch got indignant with me about it. People are the worst.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR is just a request though. You can't let the public make choices like that.

The screws should have worked though. :confused:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
https://twitter.com/VictoriaPolice/status/949149370833760256

'straya

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011
If that's what happens at 31 degrees, imagine what 42 is going to do to it tomorrow!

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





When I was running casino security we had a regular customer who shot 2 cops and then escaped. He then stated he was coming for revenge against a list of people. For safety reasons and due to lack of staffing I had the second entrance to the casino locked and posted an officer on the remaining door to greet customers and keep a passive eye out for that guy who shot the cops. We put big signs on the door that said "USE OTHER DOOR" and yeah, people just don't loving care. They'd tug at the door, knock on it, scream to get someone's attention. The other set of doors was on the same side of the building a short walk away.

Unrelated to doors but after a remodel we found out that the fire extinguisher cabinets were not properly mounted when someone bumped into one and it fell into the wall. Not just leaned backwards it actually fell into the wall and down into space. We had to have a contractor come tear out the bottom of the wall to retrieve the cabinet. During that ordeal we checked all the other cabinets and none of them were mounted. Just sitting in a hole cut in a wall. Also someone stole our AED and no one knew about it for months. The person who was designated to check the battery level on it once a week had just been lying and saying it was charged. I never went to independently verify his claims so I guess that's on me.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


monolithburger posted:

If that's what happens at 31 degrees, imagine what 42 is going to do to it tomorrow!

We grab the popcorn for 'Fume Freeway'

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