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no_recall posted:If CR didn't go script kiddy on Cryengine and made it what it is now. We would be playing Star Citizen now. i'm the footage at playable fps 
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Ubik_Lives posted:My guess would be that CIG asked Crytek to send over support staff to help get them started. The GLA has a section where Crytek can help you with your modified code, but it's at their discretion, and it's a thousand euros per man-day. Sending a bunch of employees out on secondment would have been great for Crytek to bring in more cash, and for CIG to get some people with CryEngine experience. So CIG sets up a German office to dodge the travel and 4-star accommodation requirements, and then after a while, poaches the lot of them. Crytek gets upset at losing staff and the support money, and goes back their contractual obligation of only offering support on unmodified code. So nothing. Dont forget Crytek did embed a bunch of guys in the Austin office for a few months.
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We're going to be adding content dynamically to the universe. I'm not interested in having yearly updates. We'll have a team of people that are adding content on a weekly, every two weeks basis. So you start in this system and start in this game, and it's got fifty star systems for instance... Two weeks in and a jump point is discovered for another system and someone navigates it, and bam we've got a 51st system... and so on. - Chris Roberts wow
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Ubik_Lives posted:I know people are about to murder me for harping on about the implied definitions of words I'm glad of it. Jobbo_Fett posted:Crytek goes to court with a world-renown team of lawyers who literally write the book and the thing they are suing CIG for. 
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TheAgent posted:lol all the ships that spawn on this server cannot be interacted with in any way and are missing their weapons/attachments PvP slider is in!?
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Paging internet warlord Derek Looks like as per Eurogamer it is a resounding Knock out http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-01-08-star-citizen-maker-gives-fiery-legal-defence-against-crytek Smells like ribeye shill steak to me lol
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Facebook Aunt posted:I've watched a fair bit of judge Judy, and she always says that when the terms of the contract are ambiguous it is interpreted in favor of the party who didn't write it. Not sure if that is a factor in big boy law, but who would that be in this case? The actual person who wrote it worked for crytek at the time but now works for cig? Vrytek because Ortwin and co erote it and then jumped ship to CIG
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TheAgent posted:welp  
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MinorInconvenience posted:When the lawsuit was originally filed, I said I wanted to see the whole GLA, because I thought CrySkadden looked like they were burying the lede a bit. And I think this is it. Yup. That's why it's so hilarious to me that people are focused on 2.1.2 which really is just exclusively (send help!) a Red Herring distraction. Then the brain trust (aka Ortwin) at CIG, have gone on the record saying they switched to LY. Without actually terminating (which they can't) the GLA as per 8.1-8.3 They're so hosed, I can't wait to read the upcoming Skadden rebuttal, as well as the judge's Feb 9 ruling on the MtD. ----------------
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Galarox posted:Voila:  
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Is it normal to write things like "This action should never have been filed" in your response? That seems like something the judge might want to decide; like I understand these things need to lean somewhat on hyperbole but downright crass statements like that can't do much to support your argument.
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Let us design three separate games using three separate teams (geographically/company-wise). We will not coordinate between them in any meaningful sense. When we go to integrate these together and the poo poo (obviously) hits the fan, we will blame the other guys. Oh, their poo poo is much better? It's still their fault. Wrong... scale? What the gently caress does the asset scale have to do with anything? What a loving no-issue. At worst it is a pain to fix, but it is not 'throw away and restart' painful. Not even nearly close. ALSO they made Star Marine for 500k in 6 months. And it looked completely generically okay.
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Ubik_Lives posted:I know people are about to murder me for harping on about the implied definitions of words, so I'm just going to make this one post on this section and then go back to lurking. Yeah, no, GTFO and stop confusing the issue. ----------------
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Galarox posted:Voila: Walla!
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EightAce posted:I wouldn't get too excited about this lawsuit. I know Derek is standing atop his mountain screaming wrath and calling down thunder . But having spoken with some people involved and trying to be objective. I really think this will end in some sort of payout and then business as usual. Unless you haven't been paying attention, given how fast this thread moves, I HAVE been saying that I don't see how this doesn't get settled, given the damaging bullshit that's going to come out during depositions and discovery. Crytek's rumored inability to pay some staff, is immaterial to the case, and has NO bearing on their attorney's competency in trying a case of breach of contract and IP infringement. It's not Crytek trying the case. They have high powered attorneys for that. So even if they were incompetent, it has NO relevance to the case - which is all about WRITTEN DOCUMENTS. And 3.0 was never my original definition of the E.L.E I declared back in April 2016. The E.L.E started during that period and has progressed (rippled effect) steadily since he went on the record saying that he couldn't build and deliver the full game. The fact that he acknowledged in April 2016 that he couldn't build the game as pitched, but that he was going to release an MVP, was my signal that the project was as good as dead. Then all the other parts started to fall into place to prove it. This included the 3.0 promised in Dec 2016, the LY engine switch, the ludicrous sales, the disastrous 3.0 release etc. Now we have the Crytek lawsuit, and something ever bigger than that brewing in the backdrop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJoHlCc4Y7E MVP @ 23:10 quote:10 for the Chairman: Episode 83 ----------------
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SomethingJones posted:Crytek jumped on Chris's bandwagon in 2012 out of sheer desperation to have someone do something original with their jittery clunkyfuck fps engine and I will enjoy watching them gently caress each other over in court. Derek is all in on this lawsuit drama, and if it is settled before discovery with brown envelopes and multiple cheques from various shell companies (usual CIG style), Derek will be eating internet humble for the next ten years. uhm why? It's not my lawsuit and I have no stake in it. I have always said several times that I just don't see how they don't settle this because the alternative is disastrous for CIG. And they spent a year screwing around with Crytek instead of settling because they likely didn't have the ballpark figure Crytek was asking for. Make no mistake, as per the filing, they are pissed that Crytek filed the lawsuit because win, lose or draw, it hurts them - and threatens to expose them. ----------------
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EightAce posted:Knackers You had me at Knackers 
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Combat Theory posted:You had me at Knackers genuinely good advice
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AP posted:Things that are still funny 4 years later. I can’t believe they couldn’t find a better group photo than one with an entire room full of people all staring at Chris with WTF-is-this-guy-on-about expressions while he monologues.
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Since people are posting up their cars, here's a picture of my dearly departed import Micra Finale that I miss so much.   She needed way too much work in the end to get her into a driveable state that it became stupid to even try. Note that everything is factory original, and nothing was customised.
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Rabelais D posted:Is it normal to write things like "This action should never have been filed" in your response? That seems like something the judge might want to decide; like I understand these things need to lean somewhat on hyperbole but downright crass statements like that can't do much to support your argument. Just another thing for the court to roll its eye at.
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Xaerael posted:Since people are posting up their cars, here's a picture of my dearly departed import Micra Finale that I miss so much. Don't get me started about cars I miss....my poor 540i and that awesome Pajero V6 *cries e: I actually thought long and hard about a Tesla Model X, but I just couldn't let go off my X6, it's such a sturdy awesome beast with such an awesome and at the same time awful design (like it was designed by a twelve year old, in a good way)...I love that thing to death and decided to not let it go without a fight tuo fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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D_Smart posted:Yup. That's why it's so hilarious to me that people are focused on 2.1.2 which really is just exclusively (send help!) a Red Herring distraction. 2.4 seems aimed primarily at preventing licensee creating and selling a competitng engine, although it also prevents licensee from supporting and maintaing competing engines. Does the LY GLA have an obligation to maintain similar to the CryEngine one?
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Galarox posted:Voila: Wow!
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kw0134 posted:In court filings, no, you don't say that to the judge because she's the one who decides that, thank you counsel. That's the language you reserve for the press. Inside the court itself it's all "please" and "thank you," and "may it please the court." Depending on the area of law you work in, it can become a small and insular world where everyone knows everyone and the last thing you want to do is piss them all off because for all its formality the actual practice of law is greased heavily by the unofficial favors and nods its practitioners grant each other. As in a lot of places, who you know and how much they like you goes as far if not farther than whatever your lawyering chops are. I'm sure the judge is going to be annoyed at the Rule 11 threat being made public when it had no business even being in the declaration filing. Ortwin is such an incompetent dick. ----------------
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tuo posted:Don't get me started about cars I miss....my poor 540i and that awesome Pajero V6 *cries Little know fact, the pajero isn't called pajero in Spain because it's a very nasty word for a gay prostitute. I learned this the hard way when I imported one for a friend there and people kept giving me the looks at the gas stations. Incredible car nonetheless. If I wasn't topped up on Japanese machines with... Errr... 4 Nissans now I would get me one myself Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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MedicineHut posted:2.4 seems aimed primarily at preventing licensee creating and selling a competitng engine, although it also prevents licensee from supporting and maintaing competing engines. Does the LY GLA have an obligation to maintain similar to the CryEngine one? There's nothing "primarily" about the wording (which is very specific). The wording is "collective" and "inclusive". Meaning, they can't do ANY of those things. At all.  Here are the termination conditions. Since the GLA cannot be terminated "at will", well, therein lies the rub. It's in perpetuity.   ---------------- D_Smart fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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MedicineHut posted:2.4 seems aimed primarily at preventing licensee creating and selling a competitng engine, although it also prevents licensee from supporting and maintaing competing engines. Does the LY GLA have an obligation to maintain similar to the CryEngine one? https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/ The Lumberyard stuff is down at section 57. "57.5 Other Restrictions. Without limiting the license restrictions set out in the Agreement, you may not (a) distribute the Lumberyard Materials in source code form, except as expressly permitted by Section 57.2(b) and (c), (b) use or exploit the Lumberyard Materials or any portion thereof to develop, maintain, participate in the development of, or support any competing engine, development tool, or software framework, (c) use the Lumberyard Materials or any portion thereof as part of a logo or trademark, (d) remove, obscure, or alter any proprietary rights notices (including copyright and trademark notices) contained in the Lumberyard Materials, (e) take any action that would require us or you to license, distribute, or otherwise make available to anyone the Lumberyard Materials under different terms (e.g., combining Lumberyard Materials with software subject to “copyleft” open source licenses), or (f) use or exploit the Lumberyard Materials or any portion thereof in any manner or for any purpose other than as expressly permitted by these terms."
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Xaerael posted:Since people are posting up their cars, here's a picture of my dearly departed import Micra Finale that I miss so much. I don't do cars, so heres my motorbike 
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kw0134 posted:In court filings, no, you don't say that to the judge because she's the one who decides that, thank you counsel. That's the language you reserve for the press. Inside the court itself it's all "please" and "thank you," and "may it please the court." Depending on the area of law you work in, it can become a small and insular world where everyone knows everyone and the last thing you want to do is piss them all off because for all its formality the actual practice of law is greased heavily by the unofficial favors and nods its practitioners grant each other. As in a lot of places, who you know and how much they like you goes as far if not farther than whatever your lawyering chops are. Yeah, you are drafting a defense, it's obvious you don't think the claim should have been brought. All this level of bluster does is show incredible professional rudeness to the other side's counsel - when you both know that you are paid advocates trying to present the best possible case for your clients. Rudeness does not make people want to believe you, which is a problem when your job is to be persuasive. This is why people have been assuming that Ortwin or Roberts dictated parts of the letter or gave instructions that a good press line was more important than the best possible legal defense - good lawyers just wouldn't have written that. e: well, a good lawyer might do that if they were a massive knob and wanted to bully a much smaller firm who were bringing a claim on shaky grounds, but that's not something you try to pull with Skadden. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Combat Theory posted:You had me at Knackers I like "l'area de oolala", myself. Also can we please repeal the anime ban and instead ban long effortposts about specific sections of the crytek GLA? Enchanted Hat fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jan 9, 2018 |
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Alchenar posted:Yeah, you are drafting a defense, it's obvious you don't think the claim should have been brought. All this level of bluster does is show incredible professional rudeness to the other side's counsel - when you both know that you are paid advocates trying to present the best possible case for your clients.  That's precisely what I said the first time I read that CIG response. It has Ortwin all over it. ----------------
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Enchanted Hat posted:I like "l'area de oolala", myself. Aw man, I have a weekend off and get some paperwork done, and now I don't get to effort post about a contract. No fun.
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