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siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010
I'm fairly certain at Gen Con they said Legion would be March-Aprilish, their first article on their page says early 2018, and FFG has issues getting cards and dice off the boat in a timely manner so who knows with minis. I don't know why anyone would have thought it would be here before Christmas.

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Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Considering there are multiple Legion events at Adepticon (late March), it will have to be out by then. Might not be much before then though.

Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



Orvin posted:

Considering there are multiple Legion events at Adepticon (late March), it will have to be out by then. Might not be much before then though.

I signed up for one of those. It's going to be pretty fun to have a tournament style event with a game that will only have been out for a couple of months.

Iron_Chef
Sep 19, 2003
Chef of Iron
The Imperial Assualt co-op app has been released!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/12/1/a-new-legend-begins/

susan
Jan 14, 2013
So I walked into my Barnes & Noble today and found a 50% off ISD box, which is now mine. I've not really been following the Armada scene lately; what does a competitive double ISD look like these days? Gunnery teams on both probably, some kind of defensive upgrade to keep them alive, and an escort or two?

EDIT: What are your thoughts on this -

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400
Commander: Admiral Motti

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Minefields

[ flagship ] Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer (120 points)
- Admiral Motti ( 24 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Advanced Projectors ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 161 total ship cost

Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer (120 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Advanced Projectors ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 137 total ship cost

Raider-II Class Corvette (48 points)
= 48 total ship cost

4 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 32 points)
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons ( 22 points)

susan fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Dec 5, 2017

Val Helmethead
Apr 24, 2009

Pittsburgh is stored in the balls.

That looks pretty okay.

Another option is to go double Gozantis, plus you can free up 24 points taking Cienna Ree and Valen Rudor (from Corellian Conflict expansion) as your only fighter cover. If you're going fighter light, they are literally all you could conceivably need at 30 points.

Try and fit Electronic Countermeasures in there somewhere, they're a better taken on ISDIIs than Advanced Projectors. Even if your opponent has XI7s, you'll be using all your shields with two redirects anyway. Also an option is Reinforced Blast Doors, but you've got to have an Arquitens for that card. Still, 14 hull (Motti) plus 3 you can repair at the start of a round is a lot of damage your opponent needs to chew through to sink even one of your big ships.

I think the best double ISD commander right now is probably Moff Jerjerrod, but if you haven't picked up an Arquitens yet, Motti is perfectly servicable. You can also go Ozzel, because nothing is more hilarious than throttling from 1 to 3, or 3 to 1 on a big fat ISD.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Also consider dropping the Raider II to a Raider I and add Ordinance Experts. Ordinance Experts really increases the damage done by the Raider. In addition, it makes it the strongest flack platform in the game, all but guaranteeing 2 damage on squadrons.

You may not have any yet, but external racks on Raider 1s with Ordinace Experts is another really strong upgrade. It gives them a really strong single activation, especially if you can double arc something.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Holy Moly.

I'll crack this out at the weekend and let y'all know how it plays.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Yeah, I downloaded it and dicked around for a bit but I haven’t had time to actually play a game with it yet. And Gloomhaven is sitting on my porch as I type, so I’m not sure how quickly I’ll get around to it now.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




The Battlefront II DLC campaign set in the First Order era has exactly what I was talking about for a scum/other faction in Armada - a private security company running a task force built around an old Nebulon B frigate, teamed with a group of weaponised GR-75 transports, and escorted by a mix of V-Wings and ARC-170s. The PC also gets to steal from the PMC, and then use, a Republic-era AT-RT and a Z-6 Rotary blaster cannon on the ground.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Dec 18, 2017

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




What in the Christ is up with this new Armada wave? It's still listed as in development 4 months later

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
China is slow and ffg are dumb and order production too late.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

banned from Starbucks posted:

What in the Christ is up with this new Armada wave? It's still listed as in development 4 months later

My money is on Legion and it's associated wave 1 jumping the line.

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

If I was buying Imperial Assault with the intention of only running the App stuff, what do I need to get? The core set only? What is the "point" of all the extraneous minis? Do they replace the dudes in the campaigns or what?

Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.

Waffles Inc. posted:

If I was buying Imperial Assault with the intention of only running the App stuff, what do I need to get? The core set only? What is the "point" of all the extraneous minis? Do they replace the dudes in the campaigns or what?

You only need the core set. If you have expansions you can play with any of the other heroes, and having extra Imperial miniatures from the expansions means there's a larger pool of potential spawns when the app places random enemies.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Waffles Inc. posted:

If I was buying Imperial Assault with the intention of only running the App stuff, what do I need to get? The core set only? What is the "point" of all the extraneous minis? Do they replace the dudes in the campaigns or what?

In so far as the app is concerned, they may have plot cards, side quests and other stuff that gets mixed in. Some of the blister packs replace cardboard chits but most are add-ons. I haven't played around with the app enough yet to know how well it incorporates all of the expansions. The boxed expansions add new characters, map tiles, enemies, items, etc. As far as campaign play goes, I think those are a lot more relevant than having a C3-P0 model or whatever. In any case, you can certainly start with just the core set and see how well you like it.

flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

Is Legion likely to steal Imperial assaults future? I know they're not like directly comparable but both imp rear end and Armada seem like they're slowing down a lot lately and idk how popular either still are.

I'll be sad if no episode 7 or 8 stuff ever makes it into either game :/

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


I’m a sucker for snowspeeders so I’m getting Legion :negative:

Iron_Chef
Sep 19, 2003
Chef of Iron

Waffles Inc. posted:

If I was buying Imperial Assault with the intention of only running the App stuff, what do I need to get? The core set only? What is the "point" of all the extraneous minis? Do they replace the dudes in the campaigns or what?

Within the app "collection" you can, per product, get information about what components will contribute.

For the existing app co-op campaign
  • Minimum required is a Core set
  • Each boxed expansion increases your possible hero pool
  • All products add to the Supply and Items decks
  • Some allies can also be used in game eg Han
Expansion tiles and minis, along with Overlord related cards and upgrades, are not used.

We've been playing with my friends stuff and sorted and stored all the components into "needed for co-op" and "other"

flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

Is the app co-op campaign the same as the one in the core set or is it it's own separate thing?

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

flightless greeb posted:

Is the app co-op campaign the same as the one in the core set or is it it's own separate thing?

Totally separate.

Also I'm not sure most of the expansions are actually working in the app yet. They say coming soon when you click them in the collection manager

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Just bought the Heart of the Empire expansion for ImpAss, how good are the Heroes from that? I was kind disappointed with Twin Shadow's and Hoth's were pretty neat.

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



Dived into ImpAss yesterday. The skirmish rules are a direct descendant of the old Star Wars Minis game except without all of the stupid stuff. I'm really excited to try out the campaign.

Should I buy the core Hero/Villain packs now or should I wait? I mean, on one hand I really want those Han and Chewie minis but I don't know if having the cards that go with them will be a boon or detriment.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I found getting packs later to be tough at times. It's probably best just to grab what you want whenever you see it. For skirmish you get everything you need in them, and for the campaign you will probably just not use them unless you have the relevant big box expansion.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Profundity preview is up, Raddus is a new Admiral, and Bail Organa and General Draven are new crew cards

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



NTRabbit posted:

Profundity preview is up, Raddus is a new Admiral, and Bail Organa and General Draven are new crew cards

I was expecting a decent attacker out of that ship, but drat. That thing is an outright brawler :stare:

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Icon Of Sin posted:

I was expecting a decent attacker out of that ship, but drat. That thing is an outright brawler :stare:

That model alone might get me to give Armada another shot, haven't touched the game since wave one came out.

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
Lipstick Apathy
I've always felt leery of the 'teleport a ship onto the table' abilities. I can see someone envisioning themselves pulling off some amazing coup with it, then having their asses shot off because their opponent got a few rounds with more tonnage on the table. Like, in the time it takes for Admiral Dash Cunning to get behind the enemy line to teleport some ships behind their ships, their ships have already reduced his pre-deployed fleet to junk and are basically unscratched, more than countering the positional advantage he sought. Now, an actual teleport that can pick a ship up from the table and put it down in a new position, call it a Picard Maneuver or a Hyperspace Hop or whatever, that would be super powerful. Possibly too powerful without extreme cost or hefty drawback.

That aside, the new cruiser is badass. Great shields, great fire coverage and turns relatively on a dime for a ship its size. My nerd boner is still staying true to Thrawn, but I really wish they'd not saddled him with another ISD with a different paint job when I already have a couple of them. I know it's his ship and all, but they could've just included Chimaera's card with him and put in an actual different ship in the box like a Dreadnaught cruiser from the novels.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Swiftly followed by Chimaera.

Annoyed the Gauntlets have changed sides, they've only ever been depicted in scum and rebel usage.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Seems that any ships that have ended up being Scum in X-wing have been Imperial for Armada, unless Armada had them first.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




The only one I understand is the Cruiser-Carrier, because despite being predominantly seen on screen as a Rebel ship, it was first introduced in a heist episode where the ship in Imperial service was the score.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
That's not in X-wing though. I mean stuff like the bounty hunter ships.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Arquinsiel posted:

That's not in X-wing though. I mean stuff like the bounty hunter ships.

It id tho. As an imperial epic ship.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

bunnyofdoom posted:

It id tho. As an imperial epic ship.
He means the Quasar Fire, not the Imperial model Gozanti.

ETA: which is also not a scum ship in any context anyways, so :shrug:

flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

Weren't the Mandalorian fighters in service to the empire in the first episode of rebels that they appeared in?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
No, they were Death Watch back then. They're Clone Wars ships, not Rebels ships. They just turned up again in Rebles first when Darth Maul did again and then with the whole Mandalore plotlines later.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




flightless greeb posted:

Weren't the Mandalorian fighters in service to the empire in the first episode of rebels that they appeared in?

This one is the Gauntlet, which was Death Watch, and later Maul's shadow collective, and later again Mandalore in general and the rebellion; Rebels introduced the Fang Fighter, which belonged to the Protectors of Concord Dawn, who were left independent so long as they reported on Rebel movements and denied their space to them, up until the Empire decided to annex their space and wipe them out. Clan Wren also had a squadron of Fangs later as well.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jan 9, 2018

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



There was someone in this thread a while back that painted their Armada fighter squadrons, and did a drat fine job of it. Does anyone have that image saved/are they still around? I started on my fighters (adding a slight bronze dab to my Y-Wings for the astromech slot) but I'd love if there were actually a good model to follow.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Icon Of Sin posted:

There was someone in this thread a while back that painted their Armada fighter squadrons, and did a drat fine job of it. Does anyone have that image saved/are they still around? I started on my fighters (adding a slight bronze dab to my Y-Wings for the astromech slot) but I'd love if there were actually a good model to follow.

Grey Hunter posted:

This is public service announcement from the PAINT YOU FIGHTERS movement. (please note, for anyone who has never taken a picture of a model before, the camera exposes every flaw - these look a lot better in real life.)



Ties are ties - just hit the fins with some black within the lines.



X-Wings and B-Wings, That red stripe is a paint, but a little goes a long way here. Make sure you wash them to give them that dirty rebel feel.



Now these buggers I'm proud of, look at those Y wings - most of that is a wash.

Thank you for your time. Now paint your fighters and post the results!

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
I painted mine. searching my posts should find you the images.

EDIT - beaten like a redheaded stepchild.

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