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fruit on the bottom posted:Ugh, is 2018 the year that light choking became vanilla? not just "vanilla" but "should i take her to a doctor to make her hornier??"
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:I don’t know what to make of the story of Dr. No Friends at all. Here's the facts and sequence of events from what I can tell, from her own version of the story... 1) She realized boyfriend has no close friends. 2) He doesn't seem perturbed by it and neither does his family. 3) Two people that she has never met or had to cause to meet says he's a psycho. One of these is the ex-girlfriend. 4) She confronts him, he tells her he can believe him or hit the road. There is no threat of violence or even much sign of anger. 5) She leaves. 6) She tries to go back to him. He wants none of it. Still no threats of any kind. So uh... yeah I think she hosed up. It sure seems like two people who had a vendetta against the guy for whatever reason told her some things about him, and she took the bait. I'd have some doubt if she reported any kind of violence, threats, or even anger but it just isn't there in her rendition, and he completely left her alone after she left. Also in her final post she says her use of the term "future husband" made her uncomfortable because they hadn't talked about marriage at all, but in her first post she literally says ... quote:We're thinking about getting married in 2 or 3 years and I've thought about who he is even going to invite. Who's gonna be his best man?
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Jan 10, 2018 00:51
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:In the comments it turns out he was intentionally oblivious because he was not interested in her in that way. 
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Jan 10, 2018 00:52
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Chomp8645 posted:So uh... yeah I think she hosed up. It sure seems like two people who had a vendetta against the guy for whatever reason told her some things about him, and she took the bait. I'd have some doubt if she reported any kind of violence, threats, or even anger but it just isn't there in her rendition, and he completely left her alone after she left. Also in her final post she says her use of the term "future husband" made her uncomfortable because they hadn't talked about marriage at all, but in her first post she literally says ...
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Jan 10, 2018 01:01
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that doctor is totally a fuckin psycho
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Jan 10, 2018 01:08
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He's a surgeon, so there's like a 75% chance of psycho right off the bat
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Jan 10, 2018 01:09
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hawowanlawow posted:that doctor is totally a fuckin psycho Yeah, but most doctors are. The question is was he a dangerous, cheating one. His reaction is odd for someone who beat up a previous girlfriend.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:19
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I kinda of feel for him and I think those two randos may have just had it in for him. It's very easy for people to make poo poo up and especially from that far in your past. Reporting physical abuse is a massive red flag though. Then again I'm the kind of person who gets into relationships with sociopaths despite prior warnings because I always give the benefit of the doubt (it doesn't always end well) so my judgement on this is hella skewed. I'm conflicted. 
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Jan 10, 2018 01:21
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Yeah, I bet that woman was lying about the abusive man
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Jan 10, 2018 01:24
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Yeah, but most doctors are. The question is was he a dangerous, cheating one. His reaction is odd for someone who beat up a previous girlfriend. "He shrugged and said 'Well, if I'm such a bad guy apparently, why am I not in jail yet?'" This is a psycho reaction
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Jan 10, 2018 01:25
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Lemming posted:"He shrugged and said 'Well, if I'm such a bad guy apparently, why am I not in jail yet?'" big-time
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Chomp8645 posted:Here's the facts and sequence of events from what I can tell, from her own version of the story... The other thing is didn't she mention he's a doctor? I have a few decent friends, but they're all spread across the country. I text with them a bit, maybe do a phone call, but my social circle in my current town is pretty small since I'm moved around so much and I'm over going to bars to listen to bands. fruit on the bottom posted:Yeah, I bet that woman was lying about the abusive man i mean maybe it was a bad relationship? the new hotness is apparently declaring anyone who raises their voice as a sociopath
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Jan 10, 2018 01:30
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Lemming posted:"He shrugged and said 'Well, if I'm such a bad guy apparently, why am I not in jail yet?'" That was a COMPLETELY TERRIFYING reaction.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:31
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the doctor's reaction is such a good psycho reaction I'm starting to think the whole story is made up
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Jan 10, 2018 01:34
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Aye the term sociopath gets thrown around a lot to describe anyone doing anything they don't like. The no close friends thing to me is not an issue at all though imo. I've known of many people who don't have close friends, sure they have acquaintance and friendly work colleagues but for a lot of people the idea of close regular friends just isn't something they want. I don't see the negativity in it at all.
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Solefald posted:Aye the term sociopath gets thrown around a lot to describe anyone doing anything they don't like. It's not like he said he has friends in other parts of the country or anything, he just "doesn't see the point" to having friends. He "doesn't do" friendships. He is not interested in having Any Friends. Do you not see how that poo poo's kinda weird?
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Jan 10, 2018 01:41
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What in the gently caress lmao
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Chomp8645 posted:Here's the facts and sequence of events from what I can tell, from her own version of the story... The hard evidence definitely isn't there. STILL "If I'm such a bad guy, why am I not in jail" has to be the most SOCIOPATHIC way to respond to an accusation of cheating. No, "bitches be cray" no "have I ever shown the slightest indication that I was going to get violent?" just "IF THEN>SINCE THEN IS NULL IF IS ALSO NULL>BEEP BOOP I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE HUMAN FEELINGS"
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Jan 10, 2018 01:47
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It's not that uncommon surely? I've known of plenty of people like that (predominantly men come to think of it). I do question how lonely they must feel but it just seems kinda normal and not an issue at all? I'm not saying I personally find it normal, I can't comprehend how someone can be like that. It's just a thing I've seen a bit and those people were usually pretty normal and cool functioning folk? Then again maybe it's all about how people describe friendships. Maybe this guy did have one or two close friends but completely disregards then as being anything more than acquaintances for whatever weird reason but they actually do have that relationship? I dunno I just don't see it as an issue. I think sociopaths or psychopaths tend to still have close friends of some sort? Edit: I hope folk don't think I'm trying to defend this guy and/or trying to argue with you, I'm sorry if it comes across like that. I'm just fascinated by the whole story and learning how people work 
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/r/relationships: Well, if I'm such a bad guy apparently, why am I not in jail yet?
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Solefald posted:It's not that uncommon surely? I've known of plenty of people like that (predominantly men come to think of it). I do question how lonely they must feel but it just seems kinda normal and not an issue at all? There is nothing common about having literally zero friends and not wanting friendship in any capacity, no. There's an entire DSM-V disorder where that's the main feature. (Schizoid personality disorder) Humans are social animals. They naturally want contact with others. It may express differently, but ZERO friends is not one of the normal ways that expresses, no. EDIT: Really, there is no evidence of wrongdoing, just potential mental weirdness. I would be on his side if he didn't express himself in the actual scariest way I could think of.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:57
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beep boop friendship requires effort on my part, must not expend effort on anything except procreating with fembot and ensuring parental units gain sustenance. Really the dude is probably American Psycho come to life. Also, yeah he did not DENY beating the poo poo out of her, he just deflected the question back at the asker, that's 100% what a loving maniac will do.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:57
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Midnight Voyager posted:There is nothing common about having literally zero friends and not wanting friendship in any capacity, no. There's an entire DSM-V disorder where that's the main feature. (Schizoid personality disorder) I guess it depends on what having no friends means. What some people call friends others would call acquaintances. Also wanting and having are two different things and sometimes life experience and coping mechanisms lead you to stop wanting what you can't have.
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MF_James posted:beep boop friendship requires effort on my part, must not expend effort on anything except procreating with fembot and ensuring parental units gain sustenance. And then ghosted her, changed his phone #, and changed the locks to the house, the actions of an Extremely Innocent Man who really cared about her and their relationship
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Jan 10, 2018 02:04
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the doctor story was actually just the first act and now she's going to start thinking she sees him everywhere around town
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Jan 10, 2018 02:05
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The doctor is 100% a psycho and the fact that there are people trying to turn it around so the abuse victims look like the crazy ones does not shock or surprise me at all
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Jan 10, 2018 02:12
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Lemming posted:And then ghosted her, changed his phone #, and changed the locks to the house, the actions of an Extremely Innocent Man who really cared about her and their relationship I really want to know what would have happened if she'd pressed on the 'Did you beat her up or not?'.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:This guy had a girlfriend and gets along with his family and coworkers, so even Dr. Sociopath has social interactions and the barebones of a social network. He said, again, that he "sees no point" to having friends. He doesn't want the "obligation" of having to care about other humans. (like god, they tell you their problems and everything! That was a thing he pointed out, he doesn't want to be obligated to do anything with other people, like listen to their problems) That isn't... anything about what you said, really. That's Creepy. That's a human who I am not convinced cares about other humans. The most broken dude I've ever known got along well with his family and coworkers and had a girlfriend which lead to marriage. He had friends, but they were all on a superficial level. I never saw him be anything but calm, disappointed at worst. That still ended with him trying to strangle his pregnant wife. She got painted as the crazy one by all his family. He didn't give a single poo poo about the kid other than trying to get custody out of spite, and he got it easily. It's easy to spot the ones who don't get along with family and coworkers and who can't get girlfriends, but some terrifying people can do all those things fine. It's like saying "Well, if I'm a bad person, why am I not in jail?" Well, if they can do these normal social things, how can they be scary? EASILY, it turns out.
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hawowanlawow posted:the doctor story was actually just the first act and now she's going to start thinking she sees him everywhere around town Yeah and in the third season, he goes to Europe with Gillian Anderson. 
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Jan 10, 2018 02:15
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she starts seeing his face in crowds, the dog barks late at night, the phone rings but nobody is on the other end she tries to get ahold of his ex-friend and finds out he's been brutally murdered. she calls up the ex-girlfriend and she says she made the whole thing up and she's really sorry. the friend's murder must have been a coincidence after all then the camera zooms out to reveal psycho doctor holding a gun to his ex-girlfriend's head. he's been tying up loose ends
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Jan 10, 2018 02:21
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she gets injured and needs surgery, the last face she sees before the drugs kick in...
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Midnight Voyager posted:He said, again, that he "sees no point" to having friends. He doesn't want the "obligation" of having to care about other humans. (like god, they tell you their problems and everything! That was a thing he pointed out, he doesn't want to be obligated to do anything with other people, like listen to their problems) That isn't... anything about what you said, really. That's Creepy. That's a human who I am not convinced cares about other humans. Yeah his reasons for not wanting friends says a lot more about him than the whole just not having friends thing. I get that maintaining a friendship can be hard at times but he just outright had no interest in any way shape or form and that's a bit odd. Makes me curious how he met this girl in the first place and what it was about her in particular that interested him enough to put in the effort.
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Jan 10, 2018 02:25
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Midnight Voyager posted:He said, again, that he "sees no point" to having friends. He doesn't want the "obligation" of having to care about other humans. (like god, they tell you their problems and everything! That was a thing he pointed out, he doesn't want to be obligated to do anything with other people, like listen to their problems) That isn't... anything about what you said, really. That's Creepy. That's a human who I am not convinced cares about other humans.
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Jan 10, 2018 02:29
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datajugend posted:if he just told her he was a introvert
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Jan 10, 2018 02:36
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The doctor’s reaction to the whole thing is so stereotypically psycho, like there’s no way a non-psycho would do and say all of those things. Not having any friends just makes him weird, it’s his reaction that makes it clear something is seriously off with this dude. I mean, who is seriously going to act that blasé when their girlfriend asks if they’re actually crazy and beat the poo poo of an ex?
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Midnight Voyager posted:He said, again, that he "sees no point" to having friends. He doesn't want the "obligation" of having to care about other humans. (like god, they tell you their problems and everything! That was a thing he pointed out, he doesn't want to be obligated to do anything with other people, like listen to their problems) That isn't... anything about what you said, really. That's Creepy. That's a human who I am not convinced cares about other humans. Oh yeah, the dude's big time psychopath. He doesn't have friends because he doesn't want to feel obligated to try and care about people, which means he probably doesn't have empathy for them normally. When confronted with an account that he beat and threatened to murder someone, he just smiles and brushes it off as a lie like it's nothing. I'm sure if we had more data on him, he'd be checking off the psychopath boxes like they were nothing.
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Jan 10, 2018 02:49
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Solefald posted:Makes me curious how he met this girl in the first place and what it was about her in particular that interested him enough to put in the effort. I assume he likes loving, and loving a realdoll must be wierd when neither one has an emotional range. The psycho is wierd and scary and all that, but what the gently caress is wrong with that chick that it took her that long to figure out what was going on? Did he staple her together out of all the other girls who figured it out?
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Jan 10, 2018 02:50
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Couldn’t deal with the realdoll anymore. She was a loving sociopath.
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:The doctor’s reaction to the whole thing is so stereotypically psycho, like there’s no way a non-psycho would do and say all of those things. Not having any friends just makes him weird, it’s his reaction that makes it clear something is seriously off with this dude. I mean, who is seriously going to act that blasé when their girlfriend asks if they’re actually crazy and beat the poo poo of an ex? He hasn’t violated the NAP so he’s clear
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