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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Madkal posted:

That's the one. Now I am trying to figure out if I got my episodes mixed up.

The guy was flying kids there in his private jet: he or one of the other molesters could have lived in the area. But I think there was a car company executive's so who committed suicide right after the last killing, leaving a note behind that expressed remorse at unnamed terrible acts he had committed, and a lot of people think he was the killer.

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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...imore-hospital/

quote:

On Wednesday, a man who said he was a psychotherapist and a student at the University of Maryland Medical Center Midtown Campus posted a video of the woman being hustled out of the hospital by staff and left at a bus stop, her possessions strewn on the street. The woman appeared to have a wound on her forehead, and was wearing a hospital gown that was falling off. She grunted and shouted, and appeared to say at one point: “Please help me!”

The man who posted the video said it was just 30 degrees out, and challenged hospital staff.

“So y’all are just going to leave this lady out here with no clothes on?” he said in the video. “That is not okay.”

The responses of security staff are not audible in the video, but one appeared to say: “She was medically cleared.”

What the flipping gently caress?

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Holy poo poo. :smith: Heartbreaking case. I kinda think it was dude they found not guilty, but with a co-conspirator. It would probably be solved if it happened today. Oddly not talked about much, which is kinda weird, since unsolved child murders tend to be one of those crimes than linger in public memory, especially three at once.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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business hammocks posted:

The guy was flying kids there in his private jet: he or one of the other molesters could have lived in the area. But I think there was a car company executive's so who committed suicide right after the last killing, leaving a note behind that expressed remorse at unnamed terrible acts he had committed, and a lot of people think he was the killer.

I think that was also the guy that had the hand drawn picture of a kid tied to a chair and screaming in pain that looked almost exactly like one of the kidnapping victims down to what they were wearing.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Institutions don't care about you

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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For profit health system working as intended.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Solice Kirsk posted:

For profit health system working as intended.

It's even worse: University of Maryland Medical System is a not-for-profit system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland_Medical_Center

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

It's even worse: University of Maryland Medical System is a not-for-profit system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland_Medical_Center

Security personnel being able to disengage empathy to make a living working as intended.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Follow up on story

quote:

Baraka said that he stopped videotaping at some point to call 911 and an ambulance crew came and took the woman back into the hospital. He said he waited for two hours to make sure they didn’t bring her back out to the bus stop. He said he heard her say “thank you,” as she was lead away.

Baraka has since spoken with the women’s mother who contacted him after seeing the video. During the three-hour discussion, she told him her daughter was 22 years old. The woman is now safe with family and being well taken care of, he said.

Well, that's ni--

quote:

The family told Baraka that the hospital had put the woman in a cab to a homeless shelter and that’s where the mother found her. He declined to describe her mental or medical conditions or why her family didn’t know where she was.

Unbelievable. But I guess it's probably the best place to send someone who's homeless as opposed to dumping them on a sidewalk.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-hospital-video-follow-20180111-story.html

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xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Solice Kirsk posted:

For profit health system working as intended.

As opposed to the public health system that gives you syphillis and tests radiation experiments on you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~


Our local hospital medically cleared a man to go home a couple of years ago. He was semi-conscious when loaded into the van. When the driver got to the patient's house, he was dead.

My mother, nurse of nearly 40 years, gave me this advice regarding hospitals: "stay the hell out of a hospital if you can help it, because they will kill you."

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Knew this was going to have been done to an older black woman reading the first few sentences

edit: wait she's 22??

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Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2018/01/11/craig-wood-sentenced-death-penalty-killing-hailey-owens/1020415001/

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Ugh, it always kind of bothers me how invasive these things are. I don't need the zoom-in on the victims mother's reaction. I don't need to see or hear about how the rapist-killer's elderly mother reacts. Keep these people out of it unless it pertains to the case

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Aesop Poprock posted:

Ugh, it always kind of bothers me how invasive these things are. I don't need the zoom-in on the victims mother's reaction. I don't need to see or hear about how the rapist-killer's elderly mother reacts. Keep these people out of it unless it pertains to the case

Other people like that so maybe don't read it

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Just a heads up, if anyone is digging into the Oakland County Child Killer and decides to look up the Chris Busch suicide room, the hand drawn picture of the screaming kid is......kinda hosed up. I've seen and read way worse things, but it's just loving me up. Like had a nightmare about it last night messing with me.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Solice Kirsk posted:

Just a heads up, if anyone is digging into the Oakland County Child Killer and decides to look up the Chris Busch suicide room, the hand drawn picture of the screaming kid is......kinda hosed up. I've seen and read way worse things, but it's just loving me up. Like had a nightmare about it last night messing with me.

Why did I google that? :smithicide:

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

xtal posted:

Other people like that so maybe don't read it
He's talking about the video.

Some super smart and very sensitive people chose to make an audiobook series on the submarine case not even a year after Kim Wall was murdered.
http://cphpost.dk/news/book-series-about-kim-wall-murder-withdrawn-in-wake-of-criticism.html

This is one of the worst things I've ever read.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/town-reflects-on-clues-about-how-doctor-abused-its-kids/
A pediatrician raped over 100 very young childre, including his own son. He even had the audacity to tape it and sometimes assault the children infront ot heir parents in the guise of medical examinations. He did this for over 10years

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42664017

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_ripper_and_the_swedish_murders

Randaconda has a new favorite as of 21:38 on Jan 12, 2018

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-dc75304f-e77c-4125-aacf-83e7714a5840

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

xtal posted:

Other people like that so maybe don't read it

I'm not talking about the article I was talking about the way they film it like they're TMZ, and I wasn't saying other people can't watch it or read it so what the hell are you talking about? People talk all the time about things they don't like in this thread. I find it unnerving the way court cameras respond to things like they're entertainment

Jeffrey Dahmer
May 21, 2017

by Pragmatica
Muldoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3msCXLU2-k

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!



Sure they had a chimpanzee in Jonestown and it was shot as part of the mass-suicide

quote:

As I gazed upon the scene, Colonel Gordon, the gruff no-nonsense joint task force commander approached. “Brailey,” he barked as he returned my salute, “Did y’all bring a psych tech with you from Panama?”

“No sir,” I answered. “Why?”

“They were trying to put that dead go-rilla into a body bag,” he claimed.

Mr. Muggs was a huge chimpanzee Jones kept in a cage near his cottage. It was rumored that small children were placed in the cage with the old primate as a form of punishment.

I had seen Mr. Muggs during my first tour of Jonestown a week earlier. He had been shot to death. That dead chimp smelled much worse than any of the human remains.

Gordon went on, “They kept tryin’ to push that big go-rilla’s shoulders into the body bag, but they just couldn’t get it zipped up. I watched them for a few minutes until one of them graves registration guys was gonna hack its shoulders off with a machete.”

“Hold it, I commanded,” said Colonel Gordon in a loud voice to replicate the one he used in Jonestown, “Why are you gonna hack that go-rilla up?”

“Because he won’t fit into the body bag, sir,” came the respectful reply from the ringleader of the practical jokers.

“But why are you putting him in a body bag anyway?” came the exasperated question of the colonel.

“Why, sir? Why? Just wait until they open this one in Dover!” was the devilish reply of the leering GREGG soldier.

(Author’s note: In the first edition of this book, written in 1998, I reported that Mr. Muggs was the only Jonestown resident from the United States who remained in Guyana. I was wrong. The mortuary affairs specialist who opened a body bag at Dover that was occupied by a gorilla told me the truth after he read my book.)

8 Ball
Nov 27, 2010

My hands are all messed up so you better post, brother.
Her monkey hanged itself?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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MissEchelon posted:



(Author’s note: In the first edition of this book, written in 1998, I reported that Mr. Muggs was the only Jonestown resident from the United States who remained in Guyana. I was wrong. The mortuary affairs specialist who opened a body bag at Dover that was occupied by a gorilla told me the truth after he read my book.)

That may be the single best monkey themed mass suicide prank ever played.

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

False alarms are in again today.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hawaii-ballistic-missile-threat-alert-phones-was-false-alarm-officials-n837511

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Yeah, opened up Facebook this morning and one of my friends in Hawaii posted this:

gently caress. We might die. 😱 Phones are going crazy with warnings.

I love you ALL.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
the fifteen minutes or so between launch and impact is an excellent time to read the bible, yeah

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I'm equally unnerved by the background picture looking like conveniently censored child porn.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


a mysterious cloak posted:

I'm equally unnerved by the background picture looking like conveniently censored child porn.
That one is 100% on you buster.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
lol I didn't notice it before but in the context of this thread that pic is creepy as gently caress

Busket Posket
Feb 5, 2010

✨ⓡⓐⓨⓜⓞⓝⓓ✨
There’s nothing particularly gory or frightening in this story, but for some reason it’s set my teeth on edge.

Something Is Wrong On the Internet

quote:

Someone or something or some combination of people and things is using YouTube to systematically frighten, traumatise, and abuse children, automatically and at scale, and it forces me to question my own beliefs about the internet, at every level.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

Busket Posket posted:

There’s nothing particularly gory or frightening in this story, but for some reason it’s set my teeth on edge.

Something Is Wrong On the Internet

A lot of this is will already be familiar to most people, but this is a decent write-up for trying to begin to understand the scope of the issue if you aren't already aware of the runaway algorithm issues.

The real kicker, from that perspective, is where the article stops. It's...it's art.



You get to the end, your attention is no longer on the article. You see 'top hilight', of the thesis restated at the bottom of the article, from accumulated user input. Below, and to the left, 'claps' and social media buttons beckon, boxed in at the top and bottom with an enticement to put yourself into the automated delivery of more content. It's nothing new. It's not all that strange. But it's framed perfectly to elicit that cthonic 'creeping madness' feeling. Kafka, Poe, and Lovecraft could only dream of this level of derealizing artificial reality.

A content creator cries out, 'something is wrong!', their digital article tinged with desperation, marked with keywords and tagged with social media integration to draw the eye and appease the algorithms so they can get views.

It's too late. The algorithms already run the show. The old, slow corporations are augmenting themselves with new automated processes faster than anyone can understand them, evolving with dizzying speed. Do you suppose they'll evolve fast enough to survive overhunting their prey to extinction? :unsmigghh:

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005
You can always just turn your computer off, go outside

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Shady Amish Terror posted:

A lot of this is will already be familiar to most people, but this is a decent write-up for trying to begin to understand the scope of the issue if you aren't already aware of the runaway algorithm issues.

The real kicker, from that perspective, is where the article stops. It's...it's art.



You get to the end, your attention is no longer on the article. You see 'top hilight', of the thesis restated at the bottom of the article, from accumulated user input. Below, and to the left, 'claps' and social media buttons beckon, boxed in at the top and bottom with an enticement to put yourself into the automated delivery of more content. It's nothing new. It's not all that strange. But it's framed perfectly to elicit that cthonic 'creeping madness' feeling. Kafka, Poe, and Lovecraft could only dream of this level of derealizing artificial reality.

A content creator cries out, 'something is wrong!', their digital article tinged with desperation, marked with keywords and tagged with social media integration to draw the eye and appease the algorithms so they can get views.

It's too late. The algorithms already run the show. The old, slow corporations are augmenting themselves with new automated processes faster than anyone can understand them, evolving with dizzying speed. Do you suppose they'll evolve fast enough to survive overhunting their prey to extinction? :unsmigghh:

just read a loving book dude

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
Alright, guys, I get it. Jokey-spooky poo poo fell flat. drat.

tank is raid leader O.K.
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck you say about the Emperor?

Shady Amish Terror posted:

Alright, guys, I get it. Jokey-spooky poo poo fell flat. drat.

I appreciated it dude. I am watching a lot of Black Mirror lately, so... Yeah.

bean_shadow
Sep 27, 2005

If men had uteruses they'd be called duderuses.
Genie, a feral child found in 1970. Since she was a toddler up until age thirteen she was kept in a dark room tied to a very small child's toilet or tied up inside her crib. She was beaten for making noise and nobody else in the house was allowed to talk.

She made remarkable progress with her team of doctors and psychologists until Genie's mother suddenly wanted her back when Genie turned 18. She couldn't care for Genie and Genie was shuffled to different, abusive foster homes---regressing all the progress she had made. She learned how to remain silent again, became incontinent, and was afraid to open her mouth for fear of vomiting. She is now thought to live in an adult care center but nobody has really seen her in decades. But by then research funding was starting to dry up and there was infighting amongst her team.

At one point, Genie was overheard talking about her father, mostly to herself. As she learned more language and learned the concept of death, they got her to talk of her past.

quote:

Father hit arm. Big wood. Genie cry ... Not spit. Father. Hit face—spit. Father hit big stick. Father is angry. Father hit Genie big stick. Father take piece wood hit. Cry. Father make me cry. Father is dead.

SamLikesCake
Oct 6, 2006

... and he is my navigator.

I’ve never wanted to have children - in fact one of the best things about being an aunt is that I get to spoil my niece & nephew and then take them home to their parents - but Genie’s story always hits me in whatever tiny kernel of maternal instinct is left in me. I just wish I could have swept her up and away from all of that and kept her out of the shitshow that is the foster system. She deserves all of the ice cream sandwiches and hugs in the world.

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Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
Hugs and ice cream sandwiches don’t fix broke people. Nothing does except years and years and years of care and sacrifice.

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