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Sagebrush posted:being a dark, slippery enclosed area with the potential for toxic or asphyxiating gas buildup trig discipline: how is your mom doing anyway
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value-brand cereal posted:The twitter is 404ing, but I assume it's a photo of a white male encouraging / placing his children into an open sewer hole because of the false alarm of attackin Hawaii. I don't think sewers are bomb shelter levels of protection, but what do I know? I don't live in a loving sewer. if you survive a nuke while in a sewer you get sweet turd powers
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value-brand cereal posted:The twitter is 404ing, but I assume it's a photo of a white male encouraging / placing his children into an open sewer hole because of the false alarm of attackin Hawaii. I don't think sewers are bomb shelter levels of protection, but what do I know? I don't live in a loving sewer. https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/952254564488527872
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Sagebrush posted:I would expect that a sewer, besides being a dark, slippery enclosed area with the potential for toxic or asphyxiating gas buildup, is not really designed to withstand the detonation of an atomic bomb and could pretty easily collapse and trap you inside yeah a storm drain is ventilated enough to not be a likely anoxic hazard, but in case of nuclear attack if you're close enough to the bomb to where you need to shelter underground the drain would probably collapse or be blocked by debris
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boner confessor posted:yeah Which is worse than being exploded to death?
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I and the kids in my neighborhood played in the storm drains in our suburban DC neighborhood when we were little. One of the guys even crawled through the 12-ish inch tunnel between two of them, representing probably the only really dangerous moment of it all. They're pretty well aired out at the catch-basins, which is also why they'd be terrible bomb shelters; they're just a thin slab of concrete balanced over a hole with a big opening. I mean, I'd head there in a second if Arlington County decides to commence a mortar attack on Fairfax County, but if they have nukes, I'm screwed.
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Just keep posting. If you survive the first volley chilling in your bedroom it means you're the chosen one and you will become ruler of the wasteland.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Which is worse than being exploded to death? Well, personally speaking I think instant vaporization is preferable to dying from: A) Crushing (short or slow) B) Asphyxiation C) Starvation/Dehydration D) Acute fatal radiation sickness E) Any combination of A,B,C, and D
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glynnenstein posted:I and the kids in my neighborhood played in the storm drains in our suburban DC neighborhood when we were little. One of the guys even crawled through the 12-ish inch tunnel between two of them, representing probably the only really dangerous moment of it all. They're pretty well aired out at the catch-basins, which is also why they'd be terrible bomb shelters; they're just a thin slab of concrete balanced over a hole with a big opening. I mean, I'd head there in a second if Arlington County decides to commence a mortar attack on Fairfax County, but if they have nukes, I'm screwed. I hope you did the responsible thing and got naked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJTqWrCLxo
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:I hope you did the responsible thing and got naked It's more refreshing than you'd think.
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boner confessor posted:a storm drain is ventilated enough to not be a likely anoxic hazard, but in case of nuclear attack if you're close enough to the bomb to where you need to shelter underground the drain would probably collapse or be blocked by debris Sure, probably it doesn't make a difference, but what do you have to lose. Other than your dignity in a false alarm, apparently. In a real attack it seems like it would be at least marginally more temporary protection against things like collapsing buildings, fires, or whatever other general chaos would result from an ICBM strike.
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The main danger from storm drains, which are distinct from sewers at least in my city, is flash flooding.
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Sagebrush posted:is not really designed to withstand the detonation of an atomic bomb Is anything, really?
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Which is worse than being exploded to death? i'd rather be exploded to death than buried alive, one of the most horrifying ways to die
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boner confessor posted:i'd rather be exploded to death than buried alive, one of the most horrifying ways to die Buried alive in water. Don't forget the water. So while you can barely move or breath, you get to feel the icy water creeping higher and higher.
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boner confessor posted:i'd rather be exploded to death than buried alive, one of the most horrifying ways to die That's still the most likely cause of death besides getting vaporized or a crispy tan.
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Byzantine posted:Is anything, really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_launch_facility among others
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glynnenstein posted:I and the kids in my neighborhood played in the storm drains in our suburban DC neighborhood when we were little. One of the guys even crawled through the 12-ish inch tunnel between two of them, representing probably the only really dangerous moment of it all. They're pretty well aired out at the catch-basins, which is also why they'd be terrible bomb shelters; they're just a thin slab of concrete balanced over a hole with a big opening. I mean, I'd head there in a second if Arlington County decides to commence a mortar attack on Fairfax County, but if they have nukes, I'm screwed. A few buddies and I would crawl through the storm drains to sneak into the oktoberfest party in the main park in the city. Our goal as 6 year olds? Find the drunkest old dude and ask him for money pretending to be his kids. High stakes, money for candy reward. Humphreys fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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Nuclear weapons have come an awfully long way since 1951. Not necessarily in technology/yield, but the fact that if you're in a city that is a designated target, you've probably got between a dozen and a hundred landing on you if the balloon goes up. Not saying that chart isn't accurate, for certain examples, but it's pretty outdated.
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nz has a new water safety mascot. he's called the Swim Reaper.     https://www.instagram.com/iamtheswimreaper/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tflm9mttAAI Really liking the graphics in those now.
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The sewers is where the feral ghouls live.
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Imagined posted:The main danger from storm drains, which are distinct from sewers at least in my city, is flash flooding. And the deathless, near-omnipotent , Eldritch beings that take the visage of a friendly dancing clown. You'll float too
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Sagebrush posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex The USSR answer to Cheyenne Mountain was to just excavate the mountain with a shower of 25MT warheads.
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Byzantine posted:Is anything, really? Yes?
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On the topic of getting trapped in a sewer: When I was younger, there was a parking lot nearby where we'd play often because it wasn't used much. One day the municipality tore up that place for renovation, during which they also removed the cover for the drain hole, leaving a 25-30m wide shaft leading down to the sewers which happened to be buried 6 meters deep due to nearby elevation changes. A kid from a different group fell into said hole and slid all the way down to the bottom. The shaft was too narrow for an adult rescuer and the didn't have the strength/leverage to grab onto a rope so the city ended up having to bring in excavators and dig up the top 4 meters of the pipe and cut it off so somebody could each in and grab the kid's hand to pull him out.
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Asehujiko posted:On the topic of getting trapped in a sewer: When I was younger, there was a parking lot nearby where we'd play often because it wasn't used much. One day the municipality tore up that place for renovation, during which they also removed the cover for the drain hole, leaving a 25-30m wide shaft leading down to the sewers which happened to be buried 6 meters deep due to nearby elevation changes. A kid from a different group fell into said hole and slid all the way down to the bottom. The shaft was too narrow for an adult rescuer and the didn't have the strength/leverage to grab onto a rope so the city ended up having to bring in excavators and dig up the top 4 meters of the pipe and cut it off so somebody could each in and grab the kid's hand to pull him out. Child labor laws gone too far. Sounds like a non-adult rescuer could have handled that much faster.
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Asehujiko posted:On the topic of getting trapped in a sewer: When I was younger, there was a parking lot nearby where we'd play often because it wasn't used much. One day the municipality tore up that place for renovation, during which they also removed the cover for the drain hole, leaving a 25-30m wide shaft leading down to the sewers which happened to be buried 6 meters deep due to nearby elevation changes. A kid from a different group fell into said hole and slid all the way down to the bottom. The shaft was too narrow for an adult rescuer and the didn't have the strength/leverage to grab onto a rope so the city ended up having to bring in excavators and dig up the top 4 meters of the pipe and cut it off so somebody could each in and grab the kid's hand to pull him out. Yay. Way to bring back childhood nightmares. Anyone remember Baby Jessica? Long story short: baby falls in old well, chaos and media circus follows. Can't believe that was 30 years ago already...
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orly posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tflm9mttAAI Their humans still need work- they don't look lifelike at all: 
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Capt.Whorebags posted:The USSR answer to Cheyenne Mountain was to just excavate the mountain with a shower of 25MT warheads. Cheyenne Mountain was obsolete when Soviet guidance systems got the ability to drop a physics package on their doorstep.  This door looks tough but it could not shrug off a direct hit from even a modest warhead.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Child labor laws gone too far. Sounds like a non-adult rescuer could have handled that much faster. According to the local newspaper, the kid trapped in the drain was saddened by the fact that he couldn't see the excavators working from where he was trapped so maybe he'll pay it forward?
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Synthbuttrange posted:nz has a new water safety mascot. Gotta do this for Florida, but it's an alligator.
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chitoryu12 posted:Gotta do this for Florida, but it's an alligator. 
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Platystemon posted:Cheyenne Mountain was obsolete when Soviet guidance systems got the ability to drop a physics package on their doorstep. It's mostly about keeping the Goa'uld in these days.
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Platystemon posted:Cheyenne Mountain was obsolete when Soviet guidance systems got the ability to drop a physics package on their doorstep.
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CampingCarl posted:What is a direct hit in this context? My understanding is that those doors are in the side of a tunnel through the mountain so the blast wave goes through the tunnel. I'm sure its possible to hit right at the tunnel entrance and maybe that is still enough but flying a missile down to directly hit a set of doors seems harder. This is the scenario we've all seen play out and prepared for.
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Platystemon posted:Cheyenne Mountain was obsolete when Soviet guidance systems got the ability to drop a physics package on their doorstep. It's not meant to shrug off a direct hit from a warhead. The tunnel it's in is designed such that the blastwave just goes past it, and the door is essentially unaffected because there's no restrictions in the tunnel that would allow a particularly large amount of pressure build up (pressure in a free flowing pipe is ambient, according to Bernoulli's equations). And given it's under a mile of granite (and most nuclear weapons air-burst for maximum damage) it would be very difficult to blow "through" the mountain unless they'd developed some kind of insane penetrating warhead.
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Asehujiko posted:On the topic of getting trapped in a sewer: When I was younger, there was a parking lot nearby where we'd play often because it wasn't used much. One day the municipality tore up that place for renovation, during which they also removed the cover for the drain hole, leaving a 25-30m wide shaft leading down to the sewers which happened to be buried 6 meters deep due to nearby elevation changes. A kid from a different group fell into said hole and slid all the way down to the bottom. The shaft was too narrow for an adult rescuer and the didn't have the strength/leverage to grab onto a rope so the city ended up having to bring in excavators and dig up the top 4 meters of the pipe and cut it off so somebody could each in and grab the kid's hand to pull him out. When I was a kid, about 12 or 13 I guess, we used to explore a local storm sewer that outflowed at a creek we all played at. It was 48" in diameter, so a bunch of little kids could easily navigate it. We kept track of were we were in the pipe based on the number of manholes we had traversed. Anyway, my Dad worked for the local watershed conservancy as a field engineer, and used to tell me stories about how fast those pipes fill up during a cloudburst/thunderstorm. One day, we were quite aways back (probably 200 yards), standing in a manhole when we hear an extremely loud thunderclap. Completely loving freaked out, we start running back towards the entrance as fast as you can run in a 48" pipe. We had to negotiate a couple of turns so in order to make sure we got the right one, one of my friends had the brilliant idea to light a ROADWAY FLARE in order to illuminate the way. This actually made us move faster because once the sulfur dioxide started to accumulate, it got pretty tough to breathe. Finally we emerged, gasping, and smelling like sulfur. We sat on the shoreline of the creek to catch our breath, and there were two more claps of thunder, but not a drop of rain fell. I'm surprised we weren't all dead.
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