Galarox posted:

Chrislito's way was requested, here it is. You can see that Oldparp and Ortwin are trying to intimidate the jury while Crobbles handwaves:

Baldness posted:

Shitizenwank Redemption please....

Preen Dog posted:

I don't know, any game can be slow if you code it poorly. The engine isn't going to stop you from using inefficient algorithms or neglecting optimization. It's guaranteed that SC has basically no optimization at all, as the application is just a crude front for a funding vehicle. They even spin this as a positive, implying that the performance is bad because of "fidelity". You can cut the performance of an application by any amount just by adding one unnecessary computation. Some things they're definitely screwing up:


No mesh or texture budgets for any assets (a 1% complete alpha that already what, a 30GB download?). They show no recognition that simple graphics are necessary for an MMO.

Lazy, or no, LOD implementation. The ships have at least two LODS, but I don't know if the million-poly commandos do. At least, they didn't when they were doing their 50 player load tests a few months back (4 FPS just looking at a crowd of distant commandos, 40 fps looking away).

No graphics options (lol). I wonder if there is at least a config file that you can tinker with.

Lazy, or no draw culling. If a commando is walking around in a distant ship, and the ship has windows, how do you know if you should render the commando or not? Does this client have to animate his mesh skin, or just the bones, or nothing? What about if a ship is parked in Levski, and you're not sure if it should be visible from your location, hovering outside? What if a ship is hovering behind a building, but that building has visible gaps in it? Sounds hard; just draw this stuff all the time. To be fair, they are doing some kind of tree culling for ship parts and rooms, but it's broken (Doors, ramps, and hallways sometimes flicker or disappear inappropriately). Their insistence on having objects nested within objects within objects within objects dynamically attached to other objects makes this a tough problem.

Monolithic, general-purpose shaders that are probably 95% needless calculations, most of the time (eg. the shader is computing outputs from maps that are just flat white). Why make a variety of specialized shaders when you can use a few big slow ones?

Flying physics using a plethora of forces and counter-forces that could have been simplified to a few thrusts and torques while achieving the exact same (or better) feel.

Computing physics and collisions for other ships and players when the server could just tell you were they are (the server just disagrees with you, anyway, which is why debris jitters so much, or hoverbikes spaz out if you're not the rider). Computing anything at all when these players and ships are not visible to you.

Receiving RPC noise from the server all the time. If you hear the shopkeeper speaking from across the galaxy, what other garbage information are you latently receiving? Given that players are reporting data consumption of over 200KB/s (a guy on spectrum was mad because he's on a fixed data plan) in the PU, I would guess, all of it.


All the Crysis games look fine and can be made to run smooth on the minimum hardware.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I do. I play on the weekends with my friends - my system can actually handle it but, I'm using my ID for other stuff and just not ready to give it out yet = p

Galarox posted:

Ok own up! - Who else (apart from me) has an extensive criminal record? I mean, I know I only have 3 convictions for littering, 2 for lurking with intent to comit bad things on the internet, 4 for going armed with words with intent to hurt, 74 for misuse of salacious language and 1 for moral turpitude... So I clearly fall into the criminal class that that clown is refering to but.. I never post on (if that is )

SomethingJones posted:

It's done G0rf, we're watching it circling the drain.

Galarox posted:

Ok own up! - Who else (apart from me) has an extensive criminal record? I mean, I know I only have 3 convictions for littering, 2 for lurking with intent to comit bad things on the internet, 4 for going armed with words with intent to hurt, 74 for misuse of salacious language and 1 for moral turpitude... So I clearly fall into the criminal class that that clown is refering to but.. I never post on (if that is )

G0RF posted:

The silent lurker population here varies but over the course of a given month but includes:

• CIG folk like the thread intern, who feels like an old pal or pal-ette at this point (Raises glass, nods understandingly.)
  
• Foundry folk with complicated feelings
  
• Relay folk and other streamers who mostly despise us and believe we are all of one mind controlled by Derek
  
• Friendly Heretics silently monitoring for laughs
  
• Denizens from /SC picking up “intel” from Behind Enemy Lines because LARP!
  
• Exiles from /DS who make screaming at their monitors a part of their daily therapeutic routine
  
• Free-ranging skeptics from other SC discussion hubs like Frontier, MMORPG, 4chan, etc. who carry s back to their preferred SC homes
  
• A few game journos/bloggers
  
• Game industry folk picking up water cooler chatter (“You hear “you can fit all of Skyrim in there” crap? The nerve of that guy.)
  
• LAZRIN!!!, the legend
  
• Ex-CIG folks just having a
  
• If Coutts and Crytek don’t have minions paying $10 yet they probably will once they figure out how much easier the research gets.
  

And more. Not all at once, not all the time, but regularly enough. Thread is, like Star Citizen, still good.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The parking space next to the door is labeled "Chris" and I believe that's the spot where we've seen the Porsche.

quote:

You’re here and reading this because we are willing to go big, to do the things that terrify publishers. You’ve trusted us with your money so we can build a game, not line our pockets. And we sure as hell didn’t run this campaign so we could put that money in the bank, guarantee ourselves a profit and turn out some flimsy replica of a game I’ve made before.

trucutru posted:

Once, south of the border, los federales caught me in possession of a taco with blue cheese. Let me tell you waterboarding in Mexico (it includes chili peppers) is much more advanced.

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Baldness posted:

Shitizenwank Redemption please....

From the brilliant mind of Chris Roberts posted:

Judge: Chris Roberts, your files say you've completed five percent of an ambitious game development. Do you feel it's been refactored?

Chris: Refactored? Well, um now let me see. You know, I err don't have any, err, idea what that means.

Judge: Well, it means that you're ready to release something...

Chris: I err uh know what you think it, it err means, sonny. To me, it's just kind of a made up word and stuff. A politician's, uh, word, so young fellas like err yourself can wear a suit and a tie, and err have a job and so on. What do you really, uh, what do you want to know? Am I sorry for what I, err, did?

Judge: Well, are you?

Chris: There's not a, uh, day goes by I don't feel regret and things like, uh, that. Not because err I'm in here, because you think I should. I, errhm, I look back on the way I was then: a young, stupid kid who committed that terrible code. I want to, uh, talk to him. *waves hands wildly* I want to err try to talk some sense to him, tell him the way things are and uh like that. But I, I err, I can't. That kid's long gone, and this, uh, old man is all that's left. I got to live, um, with that. Refactored? It's just a bullshit word. So you go on and, uh, stamp your refund, sonny, and stop wasting my, erhm, my time. Because to tell you the truth, I, uh, don't know poo poo.

BEWARE SPOILERS posted:

In 2018, Chris Roberts escaped from Star Citizen. All they found of him was a muddy floormat from a limited edition Porsche, a tube of toupee glue, and an old black turtleneck, drat near worn down to nothing. I remember thinking it would take a company six hundred years to get so much money without a game. Old Chris did it in less than six. Oh, Chris loved space. I imagine it appealed to his vacuous nature. An empty space here, million years of nothing there. Space is the absence of pressure and time. That's all it takes really, pressure, and time. That, and a big goddamn jpeg. Like I said, in game development a man will do most anything to keep his backers occupied. Turns out Chris's favorite hobby was totin' their dollars into his personal account, a few ships at a time. I guess after Ben was walled up in his office, Chris decided he'd been there just about long enough. Chris did like he was told, buffed those shoes to a high mirror shine. The backers simply didn't notice. Neither did I... I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a man's shoes?

Chris crawled to freedom through a thousand whales of poo poo-smelling foulness I can't even imagine, or maybe I just don't want to. A thousand whales... that's the number to fill twenty servers of Star Citizen, at just shy of 10 frames per second.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

The GLA uses the term "Exclusive", then we must accept one of two possibilities.


1. Star Citizen has exclusive rights to CryEngine, therefore nothing else in the world can use CryEngine.


2. Star Citizen must exclusively use CryEngine as its base, therefore switching to any other engine would break the GLA.



Since 1 cannot be true, seeing as how many other games use CryEngine...

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Galarox posted:

Need help for a shop - I need this re-written from a goon perspective, with the good Doctor Derek involved if poss (but that's not vital, just needs to be snappy)

"In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team."

I am so, so stuck.... I got as far as:

"In 2017 a crap commando unit was sent to prison by a civil court for promises they couldn't commit. They were promptly rescued from their flat, featureless plain outside a space station on Delamar by a cultist suicide squad. Today, still wanted by at least 12 countries across the globe, they survive as archers of art and bad taste. If you have a dream, and no one else can fund it, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the Parp Force."

Then I ran out of ideas.

DapperDon posted:

:5: Thank you for pointing this out in the most basic of understandings.