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Mikujin posted:wat I was surprised, too, but some dude on Reddit did a statistical analysis of winrate gains as a function of total games played to try and determine which champs have the highest/lowest skill floors. Tahm Kench had one of the highest skill floors out of any champion, with people gaining something crazy like +10% winrate after 100+ games. I'd have to find the analysis again to be sure (it was in a big Google doc), but he's genuinely difficult to play optimally.
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Vermain posted:I was surprised, too, but some dude on Reddit did a statistical analysis of winrate gains as a function of total games played to try and determine which champs have the highest/lowest skill floors. Tahm Kench had one of the highest skill floors out of any champion, with people gaining something crazy like +10% winrate after 100+ games. I'd have to find the analysis again to be sure (it was in a big Google doc), but he's genuinely difficult to play optimally. [screaming and on the verge of tears from raw emotion]it is probably because gently caress head tahm kench support players keep eating me when i am playing adc and we can turn around and kill them in a fight but instead they disengage so hard that the enemy never gets punished for their aggression
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pog boyfriend posted:[screaming and on the verge of tears from raw emotion]it is probably because gently caress head tahm kench support players keep eating me when i am playing adc and we can turn around and kill them in a fight but instead they disengage so hard that the enemy never gets punished for their aggression This actually probably is part of it. Bad Kenching means the ADC that should've lived with 50 HP survives with 500 HP, but the enemy ADC that should've died limps away with 300 HP and you lose later on because of passing up advantages.
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pog boyfriend posted:[screaming and on the verge of tears from raw emotion]it is probably because gently caress head tahm kench support players keep eating me when i am playing adc and we can turn around and kill them in a fight but instead they disengage so hard that the enemy never gets punished for their aggression yeah bro that was totally an "accident" just like all those times bard "accidentally" ulted the enemy tower oops! 
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Yeah tahm kench has easy mechanics but he also has the single highest capacity to gently caress over his own team of any champ in the game, and that's done by doing the exact same stuff you have to do to play him well Basically if you can't read teamfights etc really well as (support) kench you're at best an otherwise useless wall of hp and at worst making your team fight a 4v6 Monicro fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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pog boyfriend posted:someone post the picture of serv owning all quinn goons as pantheon 
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Mikujin posted:I think honestly the hardest part of playing Tahm Kench is hoping your allies remember what your buttons do because no one seems to understand that if I eat you and you right click like a moron you don't stay safe for like 5 seconds and instead we're both sad. Yeah love too eat a 148 hp jungler and then he immediately jumps out and into the waiting akali scythes
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Jan 15, 2018 02:43
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i should think it would be obvious by now is that the "jungler" is a role in which six people on the enemy team conspire to kill you
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Jan 15, 2018 02:44
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thank you
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rabidsquid posted:i should think it would be obvious by now is that the "jungler" is a role in which six people on the enemy team conspire to kill you Love how many solo lane players just watch their enemy leave to join their jungler in killing me in their woods
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I'm going to jump in to the new player chat and recommend using the practice tool once you find a champ you like so you can get the hang of their abilities in a controlled setting. Also it can be super relaxing to just work on CS for half an hour
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Vermain posted:I was surprised, too, but some dude on Reddit did a statistical analysis of winrate gains as a function of total games played to try and determine which champs have the highest/lowest skill floors. Tahm Kench had one of the highest skill floors out of any champion, with people gaining something crazy like +10% winrate after 100+ games. I'd have to find the analysis again to be sure (it was in a big Google doc), but he's genuinely difficult to play optimally. from what i recall any time someone does one of these analyses all the classic 'high skill' champs rate out average and the top is all the weird kiteable melees like udyr and singed
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Jan 15, 2018 03:46
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THe actual highest skill thing you can do in this game is gap close on udyr.
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the most skillful champion is mastery yi he has the word master right there in his name 
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Sion is a 1350BE tanky tank that is all about the burst damage and peeling your squishies and is satisfying to charge a Q over someones head and has decent engage in his ult and E, he can go in lane and jungle, even mid if you don't mind your team thinking your trolling. ehhh, plenty of fast attacking melee characters can deal with her reasonably well. melee + mobile is the best option, really. when she ults, walk away, and gently caress her up when its over the danger is falling behind enough that she can bully and fight you without threat of ulting you. you're hosed at that point
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Addamere posted:the most skillful champion is mastery yi he has the word master right there in his name master yi is one of the highest skill cap champions in the game
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Jan 15, 2018 04:27
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Time For A Bandle City Beatdown
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can some smart goons talk about tiamat and when its good i have been building it on guys like garen and poppy and it feels really strong but it doesnt quite feel right on guys like tryndamere or yi and im kind of not really sure why
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Jan 15, 2018 05:24
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It's a bruiser item, not a melee carry item. Or at least that used to be the case, they may have changed it drastically again (again again)
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tiamat, other than the wave clear, has the main benefit of being a quasi auto reset + the actual tiamat damage so it's best on champs who want to operate in narrow windows of burst damage, ie most bruisers like renekton or kledd but also riven, fiora, etc. Titanic Hydra is secretly good on literally anyone though.
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it feels a bit worse on trynd because some of his lane power comes from hitting creeps to charge rage and if you clear the wave really quickly with non-contributing aoe damage you're just throwing a bit of that away. similarly, this is why a bunch of attack speed feels really good on him, especially early
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I won't be satisfied until we've purged the scourge of support Lux apologists of our lands, far from our fertile fields and comely daughters.
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Addamere posted:can some smart goons talk about tiamat and when its good The only reason I could see for building on poppy/garen is to help with wave clear, but I don't know why you'd do that when sunfire cape is a better option for both of them. E: I was also a bit ??? about tahm kench skill floor but having spammed him lately it really is all about smart W usage. Late game it's very tempting to try eat one of their guys and when you see the red fish it takes control to remember its on a relatively long cooldown. Better to stun the fool and save the belly space for a team mate when its late game el dingo fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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Jan 15, 2018 08:45
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do you have the star guardian one
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Lovechop posted:do you have the star guardian one There's a star guardian pantheon??
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Lovechop posted:do you have the star guardian one 
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Thanks whoever told me to just play. First game went well! 
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omg star guardien pantheon 
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Thanks whoever told me to just play. Nice! Be aware that teleport is usually more helpful on tops, but maybe garen is better with flame on, idk. His tp ganks arent as scary as say malphites.
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hell yeah now that’s what i’m talking about
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gowb posted:Nice! Be aware that teleport is usually more helpful on tops, but maybe garen is better with flame on, idk. His tp ganks arent as scary as say malphites. It's a long walk back up to top. I've been watching Glacier who likes ignite. Although it might be him being more confident about not getting killed/recovering and liking the extra damage as its hard to chase anyone who can magic themselves away on low health?
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gowb posted:Nice! Be aware that teleport is usually more helpful on tops, but maybe garen is better with flame on, idk. His tp ganks arent as scary as say malphites.
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Endorph posted:hes still best with teleport because he can push waves real hard and is fairly hard to 1v1 (he doesnt autowin 1v1 fights but he can usually either get away or be threatening enough that both parties have to back off) so when it gets into the lategame he can just split push and then teleport into fights and stuff That makes sense. Better people who go ignite probably make up for it with better awareness of whats going on. I'll probably get more use of out TP anyway since I always forget to ignite until they are out of range so its basically useless on me at the moment anyway.
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:That makes sense. Better people who go ignite probably make up for it with better awareness of whats going on. ignite is better for certain garen play styles, aka hyper aggressive lane bullies who want to snowball to the point that they can 1v2 the enemy jungles and top when the jungler comes to stem the bleeding the first time around note: you only need to do this once, on the first time, as if you thwart the first attempt they will not try with 2 for a long while, but they may send 3
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Being a good toplaner means getting the enemy top, mid, jungle and support all to come and try and kill you. Or, the Yorick experience.
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Nasus is better than any other top now, just spam him for free elo
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njsykora posted:Being a good toplaner means getting the enemy top, mid, jungle and support all to come and try and kill you. Or, the Yorick experience. then being a great toplaner means having that happen and getting out alive.
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Being a great top laner meands Dying for Vayne
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Stallion Cabana posted:then being a great toplaner means having that happen and getting out alive. being a great top laner is really easy, you just pick "Teemo" and then tell the enemy team if they lose this game they lost to a teemo
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pog boyfriend posted:being a great top laner is really easy, you just pick "Teemo" and then tell the enemy team if they lose this game they lost to a teemo being a great teemo means AFKing at the enemy red buff brush for the entire game 
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