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1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Police work in the US isn't that dangerous either with most on-the-job deaths coming from traffic accidents. But since it strokes their ego and causes society to worship them, cops like to play up that they could die AT EVERY SINGLE CALL EVERY MOMENT THERE'S SOME THUG LOOKING TO TAKE YOU OUT THAT TRAFFIC STOP COULD BE YOUR LAST DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES. A video of a cop being killed during a stop twenty years ago (an article about the video, not the video itself) is still shown to a lot of officers and is very much intended to make them want to shoot first.

Combine that with an extremely pro-gun culture that venerates tough-talking, hard-bitten heroes and a view that criminals are irredeemable scum and its not really a surprise that American cops kill lots of people and most of them don't even make the news.

edit: the schadenfreude is that America is a broken country and all you other fuckers are going down with us

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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Google translate claims "rule of law", could you elaborate on the meaning? I'm actually curious about it.

Rule of law is the notion that the government of a society is one of laws and not of men. That the law isn't something capricious or arbitrary, that it's written down and encoded somewhere and applies uniformly to all within the territory, that the rich or the poor or those who govern or those who are popular or those who are unpopular are not given special exemptions or treatment. Contrast with 'the divine right of kings.'

Have you really not heard the phrase before?

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Supprt orr pobiece

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Fishermen, roofers, construction workers, farmers, and garbagemen all have far more dangerous jobs than police. Taxi drivers even have a higher chance of being murdered than cops. Yet they aren't allowed to freely murder people.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

ElGroucho posted:

Supprt orr pobiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHftejWSvU

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Google translate claims "rule of law", could you elaborate on the meaning? I'm actually curious about it.

It's more about the engagement of a person in society. Being very general: the belief is that following the law benefits society as a whole, and therefore an individual who is a member of that society, more than any person would gain from breaking the law.

Much less a 'me first' and more of an 'all of us' approach to forming a society. It does mean there is a lot of discussing what the law should be, and there is a great deal of overhead in changing the law, which can make things seem slow. The flip side is it's more difficult to make bad choices and the history of any bad choices can be examined in detail and avoided in future.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Oikeusvaltio means, a state or country that is defined by being just. It doesn't just mean rule of law, because laws can be unjust too.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

SpacePig posted:

That's why it's listed as mixed on that chart. A goon making a flippant statement about it after another goon makes a joke about jews governing the ocean should probably clue you in that it was meant as a small joke.

Something Awful Forums poster and PYF regular Phanatic doesn't do "jokes."

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
Yeah good luck trying to get Americans to follow any of that

We seemingly take pride in being a violent, angry country that worships individualism to a serious fault. Don't count on us grasping the concept that there are different ways to live and manage a society. Something about being the champions of freedom I guess?

In conclusion, all that sure sounds like dirty socialist talk to me!

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

okay yoy have talked about police shooting enough now thanks okay goodbye

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

EmmyOk posted:

okay yoy have talked about police shooting enough now thanks okay goodbye

Ur the best mod

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

EmmyOk posted:

okay yoy have talked about police shooting enough now thanks okay goodbye

But what if the police officer was autistic?

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Dillbag posted:

Ur the best mod

Eh, they're Ok.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Phanatic posted:

Rule of law is the notion that the government of a society is one of laws and not of men. That the law isn't something capricious or arbitrary, that it's written down and encoded somewhere and applies uniformly to all within the territory, that the rich or the poor or those who govern or those who are popular or those who are unpopular are not given special exemptions or treatment. Contrast with 'the divine right of kings.'

Have you really not heard the phrase before?

Yes, I'm familiar with the term "rule of law", I was curious if there were any particular connotations in Finnish that didn't make it through the translation. EoRaptor and doverhog, thanks for the extra insight.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Double Punctuation posted:

But what if the police officer was autistic?

And was kicked by a little kid?

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014

Dillbag posted:

Ur the best mod

Yeah man I was getting seriously enraged by that interesting discussion and people enjoying talking about things.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Disgusting Coward posted:

Yeah man I was getting seriously enraged by that interesting discussion and people enjoying talking about things.

It's almost like it's a topic that could use its own thread. Oh well, never happen now.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

1stGear posted:

Police work in the US isn't that dangerous either with most on-the-job deaths coming from traffic accidents. But since it strokes their ego and causes society to worship them, cops like to play up that they could die AT EVERY SINGLE CALL EVERY MOMENT THERE'S SOME THUG LOOKING TO TAKE YOU OUT THAT TRAFFIC STOP COULD BE YOUR LAST DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES. A video of a cop being killed during a stop twenty years ago (an article about the video, not the video itself) is still shown to a lot of officers and is very much intended to make them want to shoot first.

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1sxc3V0lzQ&t=2160s

MiddleOne has a new favorite as of 18:58 on Jan 15, 2018

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Trig Discipline posted:

Oh god what a whiny douchebag.

Yeah, that is a guy who has no idea how insufferable he is, and thinks he's a good partner on paper. But in reality he's a hollow man :iiam:

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

I don't know the time stamp for it, but the baseball cap with straight razors sew into it is always my favorite. I almost want to see the proper video.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SpacePig posted:

I don't know the time stamp for it, but the baseball cap with straight razors sew into it is always my favorite. I almost want to see the proper video.

There's no better razors-integrated-into-non-shaving-object-video than the one with Ridge Forrester in it.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

SpacePig posted:

I don't know the time stamp for it, but the baseball cap with straight razors sew into it is always my favorite. I almost want to see the proper video.

I love Peaky Blinders for many reasons, and the explanation for how razor-hats work is definitely one of them.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

EoRaptor posted:

It's more about the engagement of a person in society. Being very general: the belief is that following the law benefits society as a whole, and therefore an individual who is a member of that society, more than any person would gain from breaking the law.

Much less a 'me first' and more of an 'all of us' approach to forming a society. It does mean there is a lot of discussing what the law should be, and there is a great deal of overhead in changing the law, which can make things seem slow. The flip side is it's more difficult to make bad choices and the history of any bad choices can be examined in detail and avoided in future.

the non-tromp parts of the US are pretty competitive to finland in that regard. some places in the us, the cops are not even crazy (these are the comparatively-well-integrated places)
it's just that there are trump parts of the US
ironically, one would expect queens, new york, the source of the trump, to be the trumpiest. not even an order of magnitude close to the case.

america, just like china, just like india, but not at all like finland, is a civilization pretending to be a nation

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://i.imgur.com/yoFbiv7.mp4

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
What a fat rabbit.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

SpacePig posted:

I don't know the time stamp for it, but the baseball cap with straight razors sew into it is always my favorite. I almost want to see the proper video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vix6-afHzMg

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

1stGear posted:

Police work in the US isn't that dangerous either with most on-the-job deaths coming from traffic accidents. But since it strokes their ego and causes society to worship them, cops like to play up that they could die AT EVERY SINGLE CALL EVERY MOMENT THERE'S SOME THUG LOOKING TO TAKE YOU OUT THAT TRAFFIC STOP COULD BE YOUR LAST DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES. A video of a cop being killed during a stop twenty years ago (an article about the video, not the video itself) is still shown to a lot of officers and is very much intended to make them want to shoot first.

Combine that with an extremely pro-gun culture that venerates tough-talking, hard-bitten heroes and a view that criminals are irredeemable scum and its not really a surprise that American cops kill lots of people and most of them don't even make the news.

edit: the schadenfreude is that America is a broken country and all you other fuckers are going down with us

Yep, and the bootlicking, "blue lives matter", contingent is on the rise trying to ape ultra patriotism to avoid getting tickets/blasted. We're all hosed.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

The cap is right at the start of this video, which has all the best parts in a row.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYwd0Wus5Ik

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003


No it's this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYwd0Wus5Ik




edit: aw ding dangit beaten

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

SpacePig posted:

I don't know the time stamp for it, but the baseball cap with straight razors sew into it is always my favorite.

Here you go :v:

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Disgusting Coward posted:

Yeah man I was getting seriously enraged by that interesting discussion and people enjoying talking about things.

This is the thread for schadenfreude and the discussion had gone on for quite some time without people posting relevant content. Derails aren't just stopped when they get rude. They get stopped because they are extended discussions that potentially interesting as they may be aren't relevant to the current thread. There are other subforums more suited to those discussions if you want them.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://i.imgur.com/sPJlivQ.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/9ZOLkb2.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/8o4etEJ.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/5SYDVEw.mp4

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

I think I might be in love.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

MOM!?

Feonir
Mar 30, 2011

Ask me about aquatic cocaine transportation and by-standard management.
https://i.imgur.com/Q7Ldwvn.mp4

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

Yet another shocking display of police brutality

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

need audio for this'un.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
where is he running off to?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Somewhere he can hide his shame. Guy just got faked right out of the gym.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Stifling a sneeze a 'dangerous manoeuvre', doctors warn after man's injury

quote:

London: When sitting in a quiet theatre or a packed train, stifling a sneeze by holding the nose and closing the mouth may seem like the courteous option.

However, doctors have warned against the polite practice, after a man ruptured the back of his throat while trying to contain the convulsive explosion of air.

The 34-year-old was admitted to hospital barely able to swallow or speak after pinching his nose and clamping shut his mouth to stop a sneeze. When doctors examined him they also heard strange popping and crackling sounds, which extended from his neck all the way down to his rib cage.

A scan confirmed that air from his lungs had bubbled its way into the deep tissue and muscles of the chest.

Sometimes it's just not your day, drat.

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